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    WD scorpio black or Seagate Momentus 7400.4

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by 987a654, Jun 23, 2009.

  1. 987a654

    987a654 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I need to get a 320gb drive and which one should I choose

    WD Scorpio Black 320GB WD3200BJKT with free fall sensor

    or

    Seagate Momentus 7200.4 320GB ST9320423ASG with G-force protection

    I guess there are pros and cons on both sides. I multi-task a lot and that is the deciding factor, I can compromise on every other feature.

    so which one?
     
  2. kzii

    kzii Notebook Geek

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    Surprised no one voted. I am having the same dilemma.
     
  3. sgogeta4

    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    You won't notice the performance difference. Get whatever is the cheaper one.
     
  4. Han Bao Quan

    Han Bao Quan The Assassin

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    I would recommend the Seagate. I have 4 and never had a single issue. However, some other members may say otherwise.
     
  5. Evoss-X

    Evoss-X Notebook Deity

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    seeeagaatee momentuus da beest!!
    so many people asking about the same !!
    they dont read posts or what ???
     
  6. iGrim

    iGrim Notebook Evangelist

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    Western Digital simply makes better drives. I dont trust Seagate anymore after all the recent issue their drives have had all while WD drives have always been issue-free.

    WD = superior drives
     
  7. Ole man

    Ole man Notebook Evangelist

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    I agree, although it's more of an opinion thing, there haven't been any official tests as to which drive manufacturer's products are "better".
     
  8. iGrim

    iGrim Notebook Evangelist

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    No its not an "opinion thing" I simply have more knowledge than you. In the past few years seagate has pushed out plenty of drives with issues ranging from firmware issues, hardware issues, ect all while western digital drive were issue free. History does not lie. It seems they have been rushing out drives the past few years and it shows.
     
  9. Bog

    Bog Losing it...

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    If you're so knowledgeable and qualified that you can make a statement that WD and Seagate executives can't figure out, maybe you'd care to write a report on why WD is superior. Give me a break.

    I'll believe such a sweeping statement when it's grounded on such a report, not on somebody who posts on NBR with an air of authority.
     
  10. Ole man

    Ole man Notebook Evangelist

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    No, Seagate's drives are perfect and WD's have been known to explode when you use Internet Explorer to go to www.cnn.com.

    Hey, I can make up whatever I want and claim it to be fact too.
     
  11. iGrim

    iGrim Notebook Evangelist

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    You guys are obviously simply inexperienced. History does not lie. Seagate has had plenty of issues with their .9, .10, .11, ect drives and many more...

    Here is just ONE example of MANY :
    http://arstechnica.com/hardware/new...-widespread-hd-problems-vows-full-support.ars

    You have to understand that I have been in this field much longer than most of you and my knowledge is vastly greater.
     
  12. Han Bao Quan

    Han Bao Quan The Assassin

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    And most of your knowledge is crap.
    My friend has a small computer shop and 2 out 5 failure hard drives are WDs, the others are sometimes Fujisu and Toshiba. I myself own more than 12 Seagate hard drives in the past and none has any issue.
    True, you just don't know the history. Every company has its own issues.

    If you search hard enough there is plenty for WDs
    Here is just ONE example of MANY:
    http://reviews.cnet.com/external-ha...m/4864-3190_7-31793438.html?messageID=1860481

    Non-sense. The one fact that you assume you have more knowledge than others just shows how stupid and ignorant you are. You've been in the field for how long doesn't make any difference as you can't prove it and many members here are IT professionals. Your posts are never constructive and content rather crappy, misleading info, not to mention that you assume you're right and everyone's wrong. This kind of attitude doesn't belong here. Take your crap somewhere else.
    And your "vastly greater" knowledge had caused you banned before, don't repeat it again.
     
  13. iGrim

    iGrim Notebook Evangelist

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    My vote goes to Seagate.
     
  15. Ole man

    Ole man Notebook Evangelist

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    Oh, you did a detailed analysis on it? Please, post the full report.
     
  16. devilcm3

    devilcm3 Notebook Deity

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    i believe these are very subjective..people may bias to one or another...
    but apart from these issues...just take what you think is the best....

    i tried WD Blue 500gb 5400 and it seems that this HDD is overheating...but , since that i havent try the seagate 5400.6 , i cant say that seagates dont have this problem or vice versa(if i were to bought seagate last month)

    so...i actually prefer seagate..but not the 320GB version...7200.4 500GB are tempting
     
  17. Han Bao Quan

    Han Bao Quan The Assassin

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    Another craptastic post of yours. Why don't you go create a forum for yourself? Since you're so knowledgeable.
    As I said, if you can't prove whatever you say, your posts are just pure crap.
     
  18. chrixx

    chrixx Product Specialist NBR Reviewer

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    Don't feed the troll. He thrives on the attention we give him, so just ignore him.

    For what it's worth, I believe hard drive reliability is a very subjective topic with the exception of the Seagate recent desktop hard drive scandal. For desktop hard drives, I do have a poor experience with Seagate as my last 2 out of 3 Seagates died and the RAID5 on our company's servers too. As a result, I now swear by WD for desktop hard drives. For laptops, I still prefer Seagate as all the WDs that I'v tried vibrates and are noisier than the Seagate equivalents. All my Seagate laptop drives have performed wonderfully so far.
     
  19. MikjoA

    MikjoA Notebook Evangelist

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    Momentus 7200.3 had lil better performance for writing / reading than WD scorpio black.

    Here there 7200.4 performs better than samsung F1 and other desktop HDD

    http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/seagate_momentus_500gb/

    I have a momentus 7200.3 320 Gb , it's very good and never had any problems.

    I will soon buy a 7200.4 500 Gb

    ( btw , the only WD hard drive disc I had , broke down... it was an external HDD )
     
  20. sean473

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    This isn't a flamming forum... plz everyone watch ur language and try to be impartial. I would go with WD as i also belive that it is more reliable than seagate.
     
  21. iGrim

    iGrim Notebook Evangelist

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    western digital drives not only have better reliability but they are also faster and quieter as well. Access times on seagate laptop drives suck.
     
  22. Lvivkse

    Lvivkse My username is a typo

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    You aren't history.
     
  23. Tinderbox (UK)

    Tinderbox (UK) BAKED BEAN KING

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    Hey what up with the poll , only 2 options one 75% and one 29.17% = 104.17% :confused: :confused: :confused:
     
  24. Lvivkse

    Lvivkse My username is a typo

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    you have the option of voting for both at the same time
     
  25. Evoss-X

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    WD and quieter ?? Definetly NOT quieter ..
    I had WD blue 500GB was very noisy ..
    I had WD Black 320GB very noisy same noise type like wd blue ..
    I had Fujitsu 320GB a little bit less noise ..
    I have now Mom 7200.4 250GB and I can't even hear any noise tiny vibrate only
     
  26. iGrim

    iGrim Notebook Evangelist

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    LOLZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    You compare a single platter drive vs a two platter drive. SIMPLY TO FUNNY!!!!!! Even with a single platter the Seagates have a loud and annoying "scratchy" sound the their seeks while WD you cant hear at all.
     
  27. Lvivkse

    Lvivkse My username is a typo

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    it seems both of you are at ends on this....either of you care to comment on the heat output from the WD vs. SG?
     
  28. sgogeta4

    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Guys. What hard drive you get doesn't really matter. Even comparing 20 of the same model from the same company, you can have a lot of variance, especially if you are sensitive to noise. On average, I doubt anyone would be able to identify what HDD they were using if they were using two identical computers with the only difference being the hard drive. The performance, heat, noise, and power consumption of two current generation 7200RPM drives (and I dare say, even the current 5400RPM drives) are virtually the same.
     
  29. eessie

    eessie Notebook Geek

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    I have the Seagate Momentus 500GB 7200.4 with G-force protection for about 3 months now and its a great drive!!! (great speed and very quiet) Noise is only perceptible if you stick your ear close to the drive :)
     
  30. Lvivkse

    Lvivkse My username is a typo

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    Alright, after reading a multitude of reviews I just ordered my Momentus. I really hope my second go around with this brand isn't another headache.

    Figure if it's got heat/noise issues I can just toss it on ebay and break even, and go with the Scorpio.
     
  31. yuio

    yuio NBR Assistive Tec. Tec.

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    you won't have any issue with the seagate, It's only the last gen desktop seagates that had big issues. seagate doesn't make a bad product I prefferre WD tho. never had an issue, seagate... I have. that all there is to it.

    OH, and @ iGrim if you state a 'fact' you must prove it if someone challenges you on it. or state that its your opinion, and not actually a fact.
     
  32. Lvivkse

    Lvivkse My username is a typo

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    Actually, I own both Seagate and WD desktop drives. The SGs are good whereas WD is the only one that has failed on me.

    For notebooks, I owned a Momentus (not sure the version....3 years ago) and it made for major heat problems in the laptop I put it in
     
  33. cosma12

    cosma12 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I also voted for the WD scorpio black, I own a 160 GB one and it's amazingly quiet and faster than my desktop - previous generation WD.
     
  34. saebasan

    saebasan Notebook Guru

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    I have a seagate momentus 320Go in my laptop now.
    It work great, don't heat more than the 120Go toshiba I had before. :eek:
    These series are the fastest of the moment, although shock-proof ones are a little slower.
    http://www.harddrivebenchmark.net/
    http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2009-2.5-mobile-hard-drive-charts/Mobile-Performance,1138.html

    Always, keep in mind that a harddrive is definitively a fragile thing. That's why RAID's protocols was created, to improve security (and speed too).
    Whatever the brand, or the series, their technologie are still disk which spin extremly fast with heads over it... So it can break easily and datas are not really safer on a WD than Seagate.

    For moment Seagate's are the fastest, you can choose which one you want. I think it will be very difficult to feel the differance. :rolleyes:
    Or use a coin...
     
  35. Phil

    Phil Retired

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    WD3200BEKT is the fastest hard drive in real world performance. Check Techreport.com for more info.
     
  36. boostingdsm

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    I have a Seagate 7400.4 500GB and i have no issues. WAAAY faster that my toshiba 5.4K 320GB. I love it. whisper quiet.
     
  37. aidil

    aidil Notebook Evangelist

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    I'm a satisfied WD3200B JKT owner that I just bought another one last night to replace the 2nd HDD in my Studio 17 to match the 1st one.
     
  38. freond

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    I searched on Google and this thread went up. After I have read all the comments, and the poll result which more votes were for the WD Black, I have to leave comment.

    I am having three 2.5" hard drives: WD Blue 250GB; WD Black 320gb 7200; and the Seagate Momentus 7200.4 320GB (I have been using this Seagate about 4 months). The WD Blue and Black are now in the enclosures as external hard drive.

    = = = = = = =
    Here is my HDTune 2.55 read test for the Seagate 7200.4 320GB:
    Read Minimum: 54.8 MB/sec
    Read Maximum: 95.3 MB/sec
    Read Average: 71.9 MB/sec
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    Write speed on CrystalDiskMark 2.2 (5 times -1000MB)
    Write Seq: 76.84 MB/s
    Write 512K: 40.49 MB/s
    Write 4K: 0.911 MB/s

    --- The Seagate I have just retested to get results above is 57.28% full (165.6 GB of 289.1 GB); about 42% of that 57.28% are compressed movies files. Main applications I am using are Adobe Acrobat 9 Pro extended, Kaspersky Internet Security 2010 (9.0.0.463) running background, Microsoft Office 2007 Ultimate Edition, Nero 7 Ultra Edition, QuarkXpress Passport, Serif PagePlus X3, and ThinkVantageTechnologies.
    = = = = = = =

    Whereas the WD Black 320gb 7200 at http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/1624/western_digital_scorpio_black_320gb_2_5_7200_rpm_hard_disk/index5.html (I can't test mine because I don't want to put it back to laptop and reinstall everything again, yet testing through USB external drive upto 480Mbits/s and sole OS only is inaccurated.)
    Read Minimum: 38.3 MB/sec
    Read Maximum: 76.7 MB/sec
    Read Average: 61.1 MB/sec
    = = =

    Now it is about the vibration, noise level, and battery life of the Seagate Momentus 7200.4. I can confirm that:
    - Noise level: The Seagate 7200.4 320 GB is less sound than the WD Black, and even WD Blue.
    - Vibration + Noise: I cannot notice any, unless I put my ear very close to the drive while it's running.
    - Battery Life of laptop: Same as the WD Blue and my really old Hitachi hard drive which was died long ago.

    = = For your additional information, this is my old friend, lappy (laptop) I am using:
    = = Lenovo Thinkpad R61e 7650-A6G
    = = Intel Core Duo 1,46Ghz
    = = Memory: 2.49GB
    = = Windows XP Professional SP3

    Hope that can help.
     
  39. copernicus

    copernicus Newbie

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    I got a Momentus 7200.3 320GB (with g-force sensor) back in January. I really liked this drive. The only complaint I had about it was it made a loud click every few minutes when it automatically parked the heads when it was idle. I used quietHDD to disable this.

    Then a week ago, the drive made some loud, bad-sounding clicks one day. I checked the SMART status and it showed that the drive had 13 reallocated sectors, 4 pending to be reallocated sectors, and 2 uncorrectable sectors. It also failed the smart quick self test. I downloaded seatools from seagate and it failed their quick test too.

    So I'm going to make a warranty claim, but I needed a new HD fast because I can't be without my notebook.

    I got a WD Scorpio Black 320GB with free fall sensor this time.

    My notebook has only SATA-1. With the Momentus, I got 85MB/sec sequential reads. With the Scorpio Black I get 80MB/sec. This is using a quick and dirty C program I wrote a long time ago for testing this.

    I don't notice any difference in performance in normal usage though.

    The Scorpio doesn't make the loud clicks (It doesn't seem to park the heads when it goes in low power mode). So I don't need quietHDD anymore.

    The Scorpio does vibrate a little bit. It seems to be no louder than the Momentus (both are quiet) but I can feel a tiny vibration through the palmrest of the notebook which I'm sure wasn't there before.
     
  40. tilleroftheearth

    tilleroftheearth Wisdom listens quietly...

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    If you think you can sell the Scorpio Black, I think you'd be very happy with the new 500GB 7200 RPM Hitachi 7K500 currently for $80 at neweggg.
     
  41. sean473

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    Get the 7K500... its the best performing mechanical hard drive...
     
  42. copernicus

    copernicus Newbie

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    Was this for me?

    I live in the Czech Republic, and I don't see the 7K500 on sale here yet.

    The newest stuff takes a while to get here, and when it does, they usually price it really high for a while until there is something better you can get.

    The Scorpio Black 320GB with free-fall cost $83 here.

    Thanks for the recommendation, though.
     
  43. tilleroftheearth

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    copernicus, yes that suggestion was for you. Too bad about the limited availability, I too know about that. :(

    The 7K500 was suggest retail priced at $170 when it was introduced and the sale at newegg was for basically the price you'll pay for the Scorpio Black 320GB model.

    Still, if a friend is traveling - ask him/her to pick you up a Hitachi if the price is competitive where they'll be vacationing!