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    What 2.5" 1TB HDD as a secondary drive?

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by Zera, Jun 7, 2014.

  1. Zera

    Zera Newbie

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    I can choose
    WD blue slim WD10SPCX
    Seagate Momentus ST100LM024
    Travelstar 7k1000 HTS721010A9E630
    WD red WD10JFCX

    I already habe a 250 GB SSD so i will use the hdd for documents/unimportant software
    Which hdd is the right one?
     
  2. Marecki_clf

    Marecki_clf Homo laptopicus

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    HGST Travelstar 7K1000. It's a 7200RPM drive.
     
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    John Ratsey Moderately inquisitive Super Moderator

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    No doubt about it: the Hitachi Travelstar 7K1000 is by far the best option when all storage subsystem parameters are considered.

    Reliability.
    Performance.
    Low power/heat/noise.
    Durability.


    Good luck.
     
  5. Starlight5

    Starlight5 Yes, I'm a cat. What else is there to say, really?

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    Hitachi, definitely. But you sure don't want 2TB drive?
     
  6. Qing Dao

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    You can try the Hitachi 5k1000 or 5k1500. Both are stellar drives. Also you might want a 2TB Samsung. I don't see much use for a 7200rpm drive for documents and unimportant software.
     
  7. tilleroftheearth

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    When a 7200 RPM HDD is 60% faster (or more) even with 'unimportant' software and the power/heat/reliability is the same I don't see the point for 5400 RPM drives.

    Old tech... even more ancient in Q3 2014... and that (possibly) means it is built at a lower quality level too.

    Hitachi is top of the line in HDD's except for the 10K RPM vRaptor - no reason to consider anything with older tech inside.

    As for the 2TB drives - the Hitachi Travelstar may still be the best available - but definitely not recommended if you want performance from them (whether you're considering Hitachi or not).
     
  8. Krane

    Krane Notebook Prophet

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    Um, well yes, and no. Agreed that we should be moving forward not backwards; and I certainly wouldn't want anything important I have on a drive that slow. However, I can think of an occasion such as long term storage where performance is really not a issue. In that case, there's still room for the 5400 HDD.

    For my purposes, all I need is my 3 drives to maximize my video editing performance, so my DVD bay/drive would be an excellent place for longer term storage. That's a maximum 5 TB capability on a mobile system! Amazing consider where we were just a couple of years ago. Just don't say that to the 4k pioneers, they may start laughing.
     
  9. Qing Dao

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    "Old tech?" How is a 5400rpm drive any "older tech" than a 7200rpm drive? You clearly don't have a clue. For example, Samsung's 2TB drive, and Hitachi's 1.5TB drive are both more sophisticated than Hitachi's 1TB 7200rpm drive. Even Hitatchi's 1TB 7200rpm and 5400rpm drives, which are the same generation of technology only have abut 10-15% performance difference. Where do you get this 60% faster crapola? The manufacturer selecting a spindle speed doesn't make something low or high tech. There are relatively "ancient" 15k rpm hard drives, and there are bleeding edge 5400rpm hard drives.

    Also, you have said Q3 2014 a dozen times in the forum already, but you do know that June is Q2, right?
     
  10. DackEW

    DackEW Notebook Consultant

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    I would go with a 5400RPM drive, it is more reliable and more quiet than a 7200RPM.
     
  11. snn47

    snn47 Notebook Consultant

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    Personally I choose only HDD rated 24/7 I use several HD or HGST with 1 TB and 1.5 TB.
     
  12. landsome

    landsome Notebook Evangelist

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    I was going to suggest the same. Don't know about reliable, but almost certainly quieter. The 7K750 in my 8770w is horribly noisy. I replaced it with a whisper-quiet - but slow - Momentus 5400.6.
     
  13. snn47

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    PS: If your notebook supports sata 6.0 GB/s look for one
    and they have longer warranty

    I use Western Digital WD Red 1TB, 2.5", SATA 6Gb/s (WD10JFCX)
    and
    HGST Travelstar 5K1500 1.5TB, SATA 6Gb/s (HTE541515A9E630/0J30411)
     
  14. Krane

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    No its not. My HGST 7200 are the quietest drives I have ever owned.
     
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    landsome Notebook Evangelist

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    Interesting. My HGST 7K750 is the loudest I have in the house (and I have some 6-7 2.5" drives).
     
  16. kent1146

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    My vote goes for a 5400rpm drive in the highest capacity you can find / afford. As a generalization, they are cooler, quieter, and draw less power than an equivalent 7200rpm drive.

    No point in going for a 7200rpm drive, when speed is absolutely irrelevant. Your documents, photos, music, videos, etc will not open or play back faster on a 5400rpm vs 7200rpm drive.
     
  17. Krane

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    This is a misnomer that tests have disproved a long time ago..
    On the contrary, speed is always valid in performing computer tasks. Particularly the ones you mentioned: All video/photo editing programs are enhanced by a faster drive.
     
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    I heartily recommend the hitachi 1tb drive. I have it, I use it, It works, and it is typically on sale for around $70 US.
     
  19. Krane

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    I can't personally vouch for the 750s, I don't have them, but the 500s in my HDX were so quiet I bought the 1TB which are even quieter. In fact, unless you're in an anechoic chamber, they're in audible.
     
  20. Qing Dao

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    A lot depends on the computer it is in. I have two 5k1500 drives in my computer right now. I can't hear the primary drive, ever. It is in there really well and padded with rubber. The secondary drive which is in the optical bay can be heard when it operates.
     
  21. Deathwinger

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    Hey Guys,

    Was wondering what would be the effects of a hard drive if it is placed in a secondary internal bay and no screws or caddy is used for it? It would just be plugged into the port and thats it.

    Would like to know so I could either go ahead and install the drive or wait til I am able to get some screws to place it in.
     
  22. tilleroftheearth

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    It may break the connector on the drive or the computer and/or it may give you other problems if it manages to work itself loose while it is in use.

    You can wedge it in with hard paper/cardboard for now - but I'm sure you can get the screws you need in less than 12 hours (anywhere you are in the world).

    I vote wait.
     
  23. Starlight5

    Starlight5 Yes, I'm a cat. What else is there to say, really?

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    Deathwinger, it will crawl out of the bay and ask, "Father, why did you do that to me?" Possibly breaking the connector in process.

    p.s. I know I'm a slowpoke. btw, why does editing on mobile style disable signature?
     
  24. Temetka

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    If you use the drive in the optical bay with out an adapter or sled to keep it in place, it will come out. More than likely it will kill itself and/or the connectors for SATA/POWER at the same time.

    Don't do that to yourselff. Get the the proper optical bay caddy and do it right. Yes you may have to wait a few days for Amazon/E-bay/Cthulhu to ship it to you. But that is far better than the alternative. Please don't shove cardboard in there either and stress the connectors and possible increase your heat output because paper is an insulator.
     
  25. Deathwinger

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    I'm using it in a second hard drive bay that comes with the system, seems rather snug on all corners except directly behind it which I ended up placing a cardboard wedge there. Are you suggesting the cardboard may not be the best thing to use by the meantime while I get the screws?
     
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    As long as you have a triangle wedge with the edges against the drive and the back of the drive bay, you should be okay.

    I would still not use this as a mobile system yet; get the screws in there first before you're moving it around and then expecting to use it.
     
  27. snn47

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    For reliablity I'd choose only a drive that's rated for 24/7 (hours/days).
    Do you have a SATA 6 GB/s port then you may look for one, otherwise unless you depend on access speed I'd go for.

    There is one 1.5 TB rated 24/7 HGST Travelstar 5K1500 1.5TB, SATA 6Gb/s (HTE541515A9E630/0J30411) which is €/TB only slightly more expensive then 1TB ones and is worth considering spending a bit more. Smaller ones abailable in EUR are listed here http://geizhals.at/eu/?cat=hde7s&so...58_1000%7E3772_2.5%7E1080_SATA+6Gb%2Fs#xf_top and hopefully identical english version ( e.g. the 1.5TB is missing) http://skinflint.co.uk/?cat=hde7s&x...080_SATA+6Gb%2Fs%7E3772_2.5%7E958_1000#xf_top
    The rest depends on what performance you need
     
  28. Starlight5

    Starlight5 Yes, I'm a cat. What else is there to say, really?

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    snn47, I strongly suggest you stop linking server HDDs mixed with notebook ones in every single thread thus confusing newbies, at once. Major part of that list will neither work nor fit in any notebook.

    5-year-warranty won't help in an honorable yet very expensive quest of data retriveal if something goes wrong, while, unless a Hitachi drive, is definitely included in price.
     
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    I agree that SAS should be excluded, and I intended to selected the search to include SAT 6GB/s drives only, so I replaced the link and added a link to the english version "skinflint" though I'm not to shure if both provide always the same information and links to tests.

    Problem is unless you know what requirements/preferences are important it is best to provide a link that offer the drives available, so one can configure it to ones needs..

    No warranty helps get your data back, you only get the drive replaced. With increasing storage capacity it gets more expensive to get it restored. Therefore warranty is not a point I mention/look for.

    So far of the drives that broke in the past years, all of my 24/7 are still operational. Some bought without and some with a case, from which I removed the drive.
    Monthly/weekly/daily Backups are necessary evil, to retrieve at least some of the data, but still some data is lost, unless I important data is saved in parallel.
     
  30. Qing Dao

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    This is the same thing. Of the six hard drives listed, 3 are server drives which are 15mm tall and consume a lot of power, and 1 is a desktop drive that is 15mm tall and consumes a lot of power.
     
  31. n=1

    n=1 YEAH SCIENCE!

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    Another vote for the Hitachi Travelstar 7K1000. Doesn't run any hotter or louder than my craptastic Toshiba 5400rpm spinner that died 2.5 years into use, and certainly much faster. Boots to desktop in about 40 seconds in my 740QM Toshiba, and is surprisingly snappy for a platter drive.