What Intel G3s will cost in US

I am bored so i took some time to do an experiment for all you that come from US

Ok i figured i should try to investigate the price ratio/differences between the US market and the Norwegian and compare
those two together to maybe try to guess what the final price will be in US on the new G3 drives.
I only compared Intel drives because they may control the prices a little in the two countries, so maybe we can roughly
figure it out. I compared Newegg from US with Komplett from Norway. Here is what i found out:

Intel G2 X25-M:
Prices first are US price and second from Norway
80GB: $171/$246 = 0.70
160GB: $399/$530 = 0.75

Intel 510 Series:
Prices first are US price and second from Norway
120GB: $315/$387 = 0.81
250GB: $615/$793 = 0.78

Average: (0.70 + 0.75 + 0.81 + 0.78)/4 = 0.76. Meaning that US prices of Intel drives are roughly 24% cheaper compared
to Norway.

Intel 320 series/G3 prices in US:

60 GB: $124 x 0.76 = $94
120 GB: $286 x 0.76 = $217
160 GB: $392 x 0.76 = $298
300 GB: $712 x 0.76 = $541
600 GB: $1426 x 0.76 = $1084

I found out the norwegian prices from this:

So there we have it

 

i really hope these are released in the next 2 to 3 weeks.

and i guess i'll be forced to settle for the 160 gig as the price of the 300 gig is a bit much.

 

If I can get a 600GB for $600 I'll buy it. Would be nice to have a complete SSD system. Those posted prices sound reasonable too.

 

$600 for 600GB? maybe in a year.

 

Man those G3 prices are a bit disappointing...they are basically SF prices right now. If that 160 GB was 200 bucks I would opt for that in all my machines..

 

yeh well that's only if we assume those norwegian prices are accurate, and that they translate at the rates cloudfire got us.

hopefully pricing is even lower. these will be sata II, 25 nm drives after all.

 

Intel SSDs have always been more expensive $/speed. What you pay for is reliability and support.
And i really don`t understand what is so wrong with these prices, which again could be wrong:

X25-M 120 GB cost now $230
G3 120 GB $217

X25-M 160 GB $400
G3 160 GB $300.
That is $100 less and considering G2s have been out there long and had price fall while G3 prices are for brand new technology.

G2s are $2.2/GB
G3s are $1.8/GB

 

we want $1.5 per gig !!!

 

More like I want like 80 cents per GB but I guess that's a pipe dream at least for another 1-2 years..

 

If the 60gb is actually less then $100 I may cut 20GB out of my drive and grab it asap. Id like an 80 for more storage, but at the current rate 40GB is $94 and 80GB is at $180.

 

Those prices are a let down, there's no way I'd spend a g on an SSD, you get a custom built laptop for that much. I mean, it's understandable the way they charge it but hopefully it'll go down within a few months. That's way too expensive for just an SSD. I'd opt for getting the 160-250-256 SSD, which will probably get knocked down heavily within the next few weeks, especially with the unveiling of their new line. You should be able to expect a price cut, not sure of how much of one though.

 

not sure why youre disappointed in the 600 gig pricing. what did you honestly expect? 500 bucks?

 

Here is a link with pricing on the New Crucial C400 drives for superbiz:

c400 - SuperBiiz.com

 

Thanks for all that leg work Cloudfire!

I just now got some pricing info from a confidential source. Here are the price ranges I'm hearing for the US -

120GB $250-$260
160GB $350-$360
300GB $570-$590

So while the 120GB will go up a little in price, the 160GB will come down in price. Sorry but I didn't get any info on the 600GB since I had no interest in it!

 

Ok, thanks. My calculations was merley a calculated guess.
Seems like the US prices will be similar to the Norwegian prices then. With the exception of 300GB which is similar to what i guessed. Probably the same for 600GB too?

 

Oh, yea, even mine are estimates. One could add or subtract $10 to $20 on either end.

 

But I still want one.

I stopped using newegg for a few months when they were one of the G2 gougers. (it broke $1k for a 160gb, I was only delayed a few weeks waiting for a $20 above MSRP from an amazon seller)

There is also a lot of speculation going on about various electronic channels due to Japan, so expect even higher prices on things soon. Even if the speculation turns out to be mostly BS it still affects the market.

 

I just hope the 300gb is inside $600 and performs good on random write/reads, else going crucial c400 or vertex 3. The only issue seems like SSDs prices go up after release, like C510 was $582 on release on amazon... now is abover $600... the sam happen with my X25m, ended up paying $515 out of waiting a week more, so now i want to preorder.... but let it be out, with crucial n ocz out in couple of days.... i gotta resist the urge to buy.

 

I have a question and this for all you guys that have the know how, at the moment I have a Intel GM965 chipset, would that be compatible w/SATA II/III or both? I'm still confused at this point, I tried looking this up but I couldn't find any answers. At the moment, I am housing a Seagate SATA 500GB @ 7200RPM HDD.

 

GM/PM965 will only support SATA 2 speeds. SATA 3 is pretty much only found on Sandy Bridge notebooks.

 

As Tsunade_Hime said, your chipset is only rated for SATA II (3 Gbps) speeds. You can put in a SATA III (6 Gbps) drive if you like, but it will be limited to SATA II speeds (and sometimes slightly worse, as can be seen by benchmarks).

 

G3 would be perfect for your SATA 2 connection then

 

Yeah, thanks for clearing that up guys. I wasn't sure what to decide between so now I'm only going for SATA II and hopefully a decent sized one without them having to charge me an arm and a leg.

 

Would be nice to see:
160 $299
300 $499
600 $999

Incredible would be the 499 and 999 drop by 100 over the course of the year, but we'll see on that one.

 

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoo. Next Monday Baby!

"Apparently, things are going so well over at Intel that they are going to launch their 25nm MLC based 320 Series (Postville Refresh), ahead of schedule, on the 28th of March. Intel 320 series SSD is set to replace the current X25-V and X25-M series at the same price point targeting mainstream consumers, SMBs, data centres and embedded markets. Intel first revealed about the Intel 320 series earlier this month and now we are going to bring you the finalized specs and estimated retail pricing.

Up to 39,500 IOPS random 4 KB reads; up to 23,000 IOPS random 4 KB writes
Full Disk Encryption via AES 128 bit Encryption Technology
Enhanced power loss management
1.2M hours MTBF
Intel® 25nm compute NAND

Available in 5 capacities; 40GB, 80GB, 120GB, 160GB, 300GB and 600GB, they are estimated to be priced at $109, $189, $239, $329, $569 and $1119 respectively."

http://vr-zone.com/articles/intel-first-25nm-ssd-on-march-28th-pricing-unveiled/11655.html

I hope I can get the 160gig for $299.

 

Looks very promising especially the 160GB price point.

The other thing that is important is the enhanced power loss(i.e. big capacitor) and full disk encryption(making retiring the disk simpler).

These things are much more important that those 'up to speed' thingy.

 

hmmm apparantly they won`t have the 60GB like i calculated but 40 GB and 80GB. Seems a bit odd to have so low capacity like 40...
But my calculated guesses was kinda good i must say
120 GB: I guessed $217, estimates $239.
160 GB: I guessed $298, estimates $329.
300 GB: I guessed $541, estimates $569.
600 GB: I guessed $1084, estimates $1119

Yeah, so when a new SSD is due for release just ask me about the price
Good news indeed. Now i can finally make up my mind about that Alienware M17x R3. Thanks Max PL

 

One week more of waiting.... but certainly seems good prices, either 300gb or 160gb will be my choice, just would be interesting to see reviews, if all drives have the same speed.... but either way its nice to see intels releasing their mainstream line.

 

Sweet 'release' date, that is the first day of spring break for me, so I should be able to follow any info on it

Now I just have to wait for them to actually release the 1.8" models; I just hope the 160GB is right around $300

 

disappointing prices. i was hoping for 40% price cut from g2 like g2 did during release.

 

I agree. All the hype of using 25nm architecture for reduced pricing seems to be a big stinking pile of crap! - I was under the impression that Intel was going to reduce the price/capacity ratio making a larger capacity drive more affordable by using reduced architecture.

This obvioulsy is not the case as from the Vr.Zone article, the prices are pretty steep - the pricing from Intel isnt good enough for these drives in my humble opinion. They should have made them more affordable and I would have imagined they would have had a HUGE share of the SSD market by doing so......

Way to go Intel.

 

Intel had then said prices will drop at around 40% every year. Intel slipped its time line for 25nm by around 3Q and still the prices are not far off from mid 2009 levels.

At this level SSD will not hit magical $1/GB for a while(back then we were thinking about that happening around 2012).

i dont see ssd prices dropping unless a big manufacturer like intel or samsung takes the lead.

 

the thread about this over at anand, where i got the release news in the first place, states that intels cost cutting statements actually meant cutting costs for them, not the consumer.

 

Well when i bought my X25m 160gb g2, it was $500, so at $330 for new gen there is a big drop in price, but we all have different expectation into whats fair, to me i think its good drops, could been a little cheaper, but its alright, as long as they perform and are reliable, ill buy them.

 

Typical! - reduce their own costs and still charge over the odds = more Intel profit and less customers. If they had done it the other way around, pretty sure the new drives would literally FLY off the shelves....Demand goes up as prices come down and vice versa. If they were to price their drives more "aggresively", they could really dominate the SSD market BUT, becasue its Intel, we wont see that happen. Its a bit like "well, we can justify the price because of the name"....if they were cheaper, they would shift bucket loads of them !!!!

I appreciate what you are saying but i think the majority of people were expecting to see a more significant price drop in terms of what they currently sell the X25m-G2 for and what the new 320 would be priced at. Its not really fair to compare the price you paid as that was some time back when SSD's were obvioulsy more expensive.

Prices across the board have reduced but I think that most people, including myself, were expecting a greater differentiation between current costs of older technolgy (G2) and costs of reduced 25nm drives (320).

If they had made for example, a 160gb 320 but priced it at nearer to the same price level as an 80gb X25-m, that would have been better for sales in my book. I would have jumped on one in a heartbeat, as I am sure others would have done too. The fact that going on performance figures, Intel "arent" the fastest but want to charge higher prices doesnt sit well with me.

I think that alot of people were expecting this kind of pricing from Intel regarding the new gen drives - kind of "get double the capacity for the same kind of price" - its all been terribly misleading on Intel's behalf....at least I think so!

 

hmm, i just had a thought.
are these prices MSRPs?

abula just made the point that he paid $500 for the g2 which is the MSRP for that drive. now it sells for around $400.

so if the g3 was to debute at $330, we should expect a nice discount on that drive in the coming months; if these prices are MSRP that is.

 

MSRP for g2 drives at launch were
80gb - $225
160GB - $440

Intel Delivers First 34 nm NAND Flash SSDs, Advancement Lowers Prices by upto 60% - techPowerUp! Forums

intel had then talked about 40% decline in prices every year. That did not happen in 2010( as 25nm drives were delayed). Plus at launch price reductions are not good enough either.

Intel 160GB SSD coming in 2Q

this will continue to keep ssd in niche segment for a looong time. :-(

 

Yes, but how long did he have to wait to see prices fall by $100???? - depends when he bought the drive for $500....if it was 12 months ago, thats only a 20% reduction and not the figures that were "promised" by Intel in terms of making the SSD market more affordable. We should have been seeing prices falling by closer to 40% according to what they (Intel) have issued in various statements & comments about SSD pricing.....

Basically, all they have done is reduce manufacturing costs, kept prices as high as possible to cream off even more profit.

If they had taken the "bull by the horns" approach, they could have decimated the competition with some good pricing....if they had been the first to get as close to £1/gb, they would have taken ALOT of business from other manufacturers.....and lets face it, Intel has the size and financial means to do this easily - they wont because its too profitable for them to do it!

 

Amazon.com: Intel 2.5-Inch 160 GB X25-M Mainstream SATA II MLC Solid-State Drive - Retail Package SSDSA2MH160G2R5: Electronics

amazon shows $499.99 i believe.

that $440 is what it costs the retailer to buy from intel.

 

Not what I have seen in their 10K. The memory related business for Intel is a money losing business for them, for years. They have finally divest all of them.

 

G3s are cheaper than G2s that have been out there for almost 2 years.

 

According to that Vr.zone article:

G3 160gb = $329usd

Current 160gb G2's float around the $400usd mark at the moment.

Not a huge difference (well, i was expecting lower - closer to the current cost of an 80gb X25-m G2) but I guess it IS cheaper. Maybe things will plateau out after a few months and prices will drop a bit. Heck, I would even consider a G2 if them prices fell sharpish (which they probably wont do)

Anyway, its all a bit of presumption at the moment - until they hit the shelves, we can specualte all we like. As soon as some retailers have them in stock, we will know more.

I probably wont be an early adopter though.....brand new stuff is ALWAYS inflated pricewise upon release. I am more interested to see how much we get stung for in the UK for these G3's

 

The 160GB at launch was $499.99, i stall the drive the week of launch went down to $469 for like a day and sold out, then i was left at the mercy of 3rd party resellers, all had it at $500 or more at that time. Today i seen it as low as $400, but a year and half a go was at least $100 more. The Intel 510s a similar thing is happening, at launch the 250gb was $585, sold out (maybe with presales), amazon mantain the price for week or so, once all other resellers jump the gun over $600, amazon followed, now its now where near the MSRP.

I think this will happen with the 320/G3, at lauch they will offer the MSRP price, with in a week or so prices will go higher, and then go back down in couple of months once the demands settles. But for this reason alone, im preordering the second i the products are up.

 

With G2 160GB drives available (sporadically) @ $350 CDN, I would have expected the G3's @ 300GB for about the same ($350) price.

See:
Intel X25-M SATA Solid-State Drive Kit, 160GB w/ Adapter at Memory Express Computers


More interesting to me; does anyone have any info/links to the anticipated Intel 700 series drives?

 

and while intel can reduce the cost to half, no reseller will care, and just replace g2 with g3 with similar (a bit better) prices.

that's what happened last time. everyone likes to make money.

 

Yup. So unless you can afford to buy a tray of 1000 SSD's from Intel, there is no way your gonna get cheaper prices on 'em......the resellers will just swallow up extra profit wherever they can and keep prices high. At least for the very short term and even then, I cant see prices dipping by much more than 10%.

 

We have specs of these drives yet?

 

sequential is supposed to be about the same as the G2's (and the G1's for that matter).

but it also looks like random W/R should get a good bump from ~8,000IOPS to 50,000? (correct me if my numbers are a little off).

still rocking a 80GB G1 and still haven't seen the need to upgrade unless it's cheaper than the G2's (significantly of course). just ordered a 2TB external, so 80GB is still good enough for me!

to be honest I was hoping for a bigger price drop.

 

G2 -> G3:
Seq Write: 100MB/s -> 170 MB/s
Seq Read: 250MB/s -> 250MB/s
Random 4K Read/Write: 35K/8.6K IOPS -> 50K/40K IOPS

 

Ehh.. Guess I'll stick with my 510 then