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    What are your idle/load temps?

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by Lakjin, Aug 15, 2008.

  1. Lakjin

    Lakjin Notebook Deity

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    Okay so yesterday I ran into a thread where Tim explained to me that my cores idling at ~15C was NOT normal, contrary to what I always thought. This got me thinking and curious.

    So I was wondering what everybody's idle temps are? Preferably using HWMonitor to keep things constant. If its undervolted temps, stock temps, OCed temps, temps with a cooler, etc, please say so. Also, if at alll possible, describe your computer.

    The point of this is to compare idle to idle, load to load temps to see which machines stay cool the best

    My rig is a M-152XL
    T8300 Processor, currently undervolted
    HD 2600 GDDR3 512 RAM
    160 GB 7200 RPM HDD
    3 GB of RAM
    Windows Vista Home Premium 32 bit

    Undervolted:
    Idle
    Load (Orthos Stress test)
    "DOTA" Test

    Stock:
    Idle
    Load (Orthos Stress test)
    "DOTA" Test
     
  2. Apollo13

    Apollo13 100% 16:10 Screens

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    ^^You've got a few extra tags messing up the links. Bloody cool idle CPU temps by the way, especially minimum - do you live in a freezer? Or just northern Canada?

    What's the TZ00 in the pics, btw? Chipset or screen? Whatever it is it's pretty warm.

    Inspiron 1520
    T7500, 2.2 GHz
    8600M GT
    2 GB RAM (2x1)
    160x7200 Hitachi Travelstar
    XP Home SP3

    Temps (all measured with I8Kfangui)
    Ambient Temp: about 78 Fahrenheit except when noted.
    Idle:
    CPU: 50C right now. Varies a lot with fan speed. At full fan speed it'll be in the lower 40's C; with no fans it'll be about 70C.
    GPU: 44C
    Memory: 47C
    Chipset: 50C
    Hard Drive: 38C

    Load (maximum I've seen, from memory):
    CPU: 89C with 80-82F ambient.
    GPU: 68C overclocked to 559/400. 66-68 range at stock clocks.
    Memory: 70C
    Chipset: kinda foggy memory, about 70
    Hard Drive: upper 40's

    Not too concerned with the temps. CPU is the only thing that's a bit high, and it's still a good 11C below specifications. And maybe memory, but I figure I'll probably upgrade that at some point anyways so if it stops working it'll just speed up the upgrade.
     
  3. Andy

    Andy Notebook Prophet

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    CPU idle: 42-44*C (undervolted)
    CPU load: 78-84*C (overclocked)
    HDD idle: 32*C
     
  4. Rodster

    Rodster Merica

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    Vostro 1500:

    CPU: 36c (T5270)
    GPU: 37c (8400 GS)
    HDD: 33c
     
  5. Lakjin

    Lakjin Notebook Deity

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  6. flipfire

    flipfire Moderately Boss

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    Here we go, another temps thread

    Min and max after playing bf2:

    [​IMG]

    T7500 8400m GS

    No OC, Undervolted cpu & gpu Copper mod, AS5, Cooling Pad, 20c room temp.

    Its nearly impossible to have cooler temps than your ambient room temperatures. Only if you live in the south pole or your notebook has a built-in air conditioner.
     
  7. Lakjin

    Lakjin Notebook Deity

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    I dont know what to say. Is HWMonitor wrong then? If so, I guess RMClock is extra wrong? LoLs.

    Any other program you suggest using to check temps?
     
  8. flipfire

    flipfire Moderately Boss

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    CoreTemp will be right, i thought i explained to you earlier whats up with the inconsistent temps.

    Notice how your ACPI Thermal Zone temps are 67c max. Your peak CPU temps should be close to that unless your GPU is making all that heat.
     
  9. Andy

    Andy Notebook Prophet

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    Realtemp, Coretemp.
     
  10. Lakjin

    Lakjin Notebook Deity

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    Sorry, I truely dont remember.

    Okay ill try coretemp and realtemp and report back.
     
  11. Lakjin

    Lakjin Notebook Deity

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    Okay I did as I said.

    http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk87/Lakjin/cputemps.jpg

    Now the question is, is this good or bad news? :D

    I understand where you guys are coming from when you say it cant be under room temperature. But man. The evidence is either 1) screwed up really badly or 2) very revealing.
     
  12. Andy

    Andy Notebook Prophet

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    LMAO....You should send this info to intel. :D

    Intel inadvertently made the world's first CPU, that runs at a lower temp than normal room temperature.
     
  13. swell9

    swell9 Notebook Guru

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    I think you have a problem with your sensors!
    no way a CPU idles at a lower temperature as compared to room temperature!
    a simple test:
    try and touch on top of where the cpu is located!
    if you feel even the slightest hint of a minor heat, then it is obviously not 13C!!
    Other than that, follow Andy's advice and report to Intel! :D
     
  14. flipfire

    flipfire Moderately Boss

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    Lajkin, does your cpu and gpu have seperate fans? or do they share the same heatpipes?
     
  15. houstoned

    houstoned Yoga Pants Connoisseur.

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    XPS M1530 (specs in sig) all OEM fan, cpu, and gpu settings on A08 bios:

    IDLE
    - GPU: 65c
    - CPU: 43c
    - HD: 36c

    LOAD
    - GPU: 74c
    - CPU: 63c
    - HD: 40c

    IDLE with NZXT Cryo LX cooler @ max fan settings:
    - GPU: 53c
    - CPU: 26c
    - HD: 31c (have seen HD temps dip down to upper 20's)
     
  16. Diablo

    Diablo Metalhead

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    if its anything like the 6860 fx, then it has seperate fans.
     
  17. Lakjin

    Lakjin Notebook Deity

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    beats me my friend.
    I know nothing about my laptop besides the specs that were listed on gateway's website when i bought it.

    how would i find out?
     
  18. Lakjin

    Lakjin Notebook Deity

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    maybe.

    but other people with the same notebook get the same readings.

    so maybe a design flaw?
     
  19. KiRil

    KiRil Newbie

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    I had the same temps. Read on a forum about resetting my BIOS. now i am back up at 45C...
     
  20. Lakjin

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    by resetting you mean reflashing?

    EDIT:
    http://www.wikihow.com/Reset-Your-BIOS
    This? I will try this later if that is the only option.

    The funny thing is, i pulled my computer out of hibernation, i usually hibernate it rather then shutdown since booting is faster, and the cores have been idleing around ~44C now, which makes a lot more sense then ~15C.

    But if i restart my computer, im pretty sure it will go back to reading the cores at ~15C idle(this has happened to me before once or twice).

    Anyway, I wanna see what Gateway says about this.

    Update:
    XXX says:
    The best option you have is to contact Answers By Gateway. I recommended this because we are not train in all possible hardware and software informatio
    XXX says:
    If you need live assistance with the tutorial issue that you have mentioned, you can call Answers by Gateway. Answers by Gateway is available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year. There is a charge per minute when calling their number or I can place an order for an instant pin number which will allow you to contact them immediately at a discounted rate.

    ...I am pushing my way to a supervisor as we speak. I probably wont get my issue solved, but man I am sure going to yell at them. I pay $1000 for a notebook, just to be told to get to a pay by the minute service if something goes wrong? Like hell.

    You know what pisses me off the most? This guy all of a sudden seems to know a lot more about computers now then before I got angry at him. Either someone is helping him now, or he was lying to me.
     
  21. KiRil

    KiRil Newbie

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    no, not reflashing. Just selected "setup defaulfts" and exited. simple as that....
     
  22. Jayayess1190

    Jayayess1190 Waiting on Intel Cannonlake

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    Dell Inspiron 9100, 2.8GHz Pentium4 with Hyper-threading.

    [​IMG]
     
  23. Lakjin

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    i tried that...that didnt work for me =(

    i have noticed that if i put the computer to "sleep" and bring it out, HWMonitor reads the cores idle at around ~42C which is likely the actual idle temperatures vs the usual ~15C.

    Any ideas?
     
  24. Lakjin

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    This is what I mean(look at core temps):
    Normal Temperature Readings(i.e. just after a restart or reboot)
    [​IMG]

    Temperature Readings After I "sleep" the computer, then pull it out:
    [​IMG]
    Ignore the minimum values, just look at current values because I had HWMonitor running thru out this whole thing and forgot to reset min/max.
     
  25. KiRil

    KiRil Newbie

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    this sounds like software failure. id update to newest BIOS and format my computer when it does like this. If it doesn't help i would talk to gatway about sending it in... Something is not right...
     
  26. Lakjin

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    I have the newest bios and a format will do nothing. I already formatted already many times.

    This is how its been since I got it. Heck, even other people who have the M-152XL get idle readings of ~15C...

    Something is wrong and I dont think sending it to gateway will do anything. I agree it seems like a software thing.
     
  27. flipfire

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    Can you show a Coretemp screenshot?
     
  28. D3X

    D3X the robo know it all

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    This is my new updated rig. It's pretty much stacked for a Santa Rosa system and it runs beautifully. The speed is phenomenal.


    F8SN-B1 Upgraded and Modded
    Core 2 Duo X9000 @ 3.08Ghz 880 FSB (custom install)
    2x2GB Transcend DDR2 PC-6400
    Nvidia 9500M GS 515 Core/470 Memory
    WD Scorpio Black 320GB 7200RPM
    LG Philips LTN141WP2 14.1 WSVGA+ LCD Screen(custom install)


    Here are the temps:

    Idle: 33-36(depends on the core)
    Max: 69-71

    I just installed the X9000 today and I used SetFSB to overclock it a tad to 3.08Ghz, on the contrary people were saying that the temperatures will be much higher, but to my surprise it's actually cooler on idle. Of course at max temp it's higher but not by much. The cpu fan is pretty much the same as before, and perhaps kicking in earlier, but I don't really notice it. Will post up screenshots in a bit. Going to do some benchmarking first.
     
  29. Aeris

    Aeris Otherworldly

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    Okay, there they are:

    Sager NP9262, Fans At Full Speed All The Time;

    Idle:

    CPU - Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 @ 2.66 GHz, 1.2500V -> 1.1500V Undervolt, Arctic Silver 5: Core #0: 50.6 C, Core #1: 48.0 C, Core #2: 48.2 C, Core #3: 44 C.

    GPU - x2 Nvidia GeForce 8800m GTX: Core #0: 53 C, Core #1: 53 C.

    THM0: 46 C.

    Load:

    CPU - Core #0: 65 C, Core #1: 63 C, Core #2: 64 C, Core #3: 60 C.

    GPU - x2 Nvidia GeForce 8800m GTX: Core #0: 60 C, Core #1: 62 C.

    THM0: 57 C.
     
  30. dmacfour

    dmacfour Are you aware...

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    Mine idles around 50-55c.
     
  31. Lakjin

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    These are the readings I normally get(HWMonitor, Coretemp and RealTemp):
    http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk87/Lakjin/cputemps.jpg

    These are the readings I get if I put the computer to "sleep" then pull it out (HWMonitor, CoreTemp, RealTemp) Ignore the max temp on HWMonitor, I forgot to reset it after running orthos:
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=22855&stc=1&d=1219215243
    ...photobucket is down!
     

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  32. KiRil

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    Is there any settings regarding sleep/hibernation in your BIOS? I would try disabling those to check if it makes any difference. Wake on Lan as well.
     
  33. Lakjin

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    Unfortunetly there isnt.

    As I mentioned, other people with the same notebook as mine get the same temperature readings of ~15C idle. I am not sure if they experience the same sleep-temperature thing tho.
     
  34. KiRil

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    Ive read around, and there might be an issue regarding 45nm Penryn. It looks like a faulty temp probe or something. So it could be that as well. Only way to find out is putting another CPU in your notebook. Which is kinda overkill just for an temp issue. I guess you just have to put the computer into sleep each time you reboot.
     
  35. Lakjin

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    Ya its not a big issue right now, as long as its not overheating.

    Gateway offered to take a look at it, but I told em I cant send it in atm...maybe during winter break.