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    What is the Best Thermal Paste

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by FrozenSolid, Dec 18, 2014.

  1. FrozenSolid

    FrozenSolid Notebook Evangelist

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    The Title says it all. I am looking at re-pasting I want to get the bestest paste that I can.
     
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    Depends on your system, but in general Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra. You need to be using a copper heatsink however.
     
  3. octiceps

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    Nothing beats Indigo Xtreme by a long shot. But since it's literally a low melting-point solder, it's one-and-done. :eek:

    Edit: If you haven't already, I hope you realize I'm just pulling your leg. Do not use Indigo Xtreme on a laptop, or else it's literally one-and-your-laptop-is-dead. It's only for desktop CPUs with an IHS, not for delidded CPUs, laptop CPUs, or GPUs. Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra itself carries some risk as well and is definitely not the easiest or safest paste to apply. Some of the best "normal" TIMs are IC Diamond, Gelid GC-Extreme, Prolimatech PK-3, and Shin-Etsu X23-7921-5.
     
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  4. Incontro

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    I remember once upon a time Arctic Silver 5 was regarded as one of the best thermal pastes. Has this changed?
     
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    Hi,

    While Gold is "more pretty", if you are looking for the best performance for heat conduction go for silver thermal paste. Arctic Silver 5 - High-Density Polysynthetic Silver Thermal Compound will do a great job for you. Make sure you apply the paste like a pro. You have lot´s of videos in YouTube showing technics.
     
  6. octiceps

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    "Once upon a time"... You mean 15 years ago when AS5 was like the only high-performance aftermarket thermal paste? Times have changed. It's outperformed by all of the top pastes nowadays by a significant margin.
     
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    Yes. The best Arctic Silver paste on the market that I've seen is "Arctic Silver Céramiqué 2" and is actually fairly on-par with IC Diamond for cooling (though ICD is a couple degrees better). That being said, liquid metal pastes (like Liquid Ultra etc) have the best conductivity, but are trickier to use. For non-liquid metal, I suggest the AS paste above, as well as Gelid GC Extreme and ICD. There is a good paste in the Shin Etsu line but I forget its name; you'd have to look around for it.

    It's not bad, but it's not the best. Assuming you're not even a spam bot, with 4 posts and an account made this year.
     
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    Around 2008 it was the like the most frequently mentioned thermal paste on computing forums. I guess that's changed then, as you said.

    I still have a (mostly full) tube of it lying around lol, repasted my T410 6 months ago, but it only made a max. 2C difference in idle temperatures. Does this stuff lose it's effectiveness if its stored for too long?
     
  9. octiceps

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    Beats me. What is the shelf life listed on it? If you keep thermal paste in a cool, dry place, it should last for many years. Not that it matters anyway as AS5 isn't very good to begin with. :p
     
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    I've used Arctic Cooling MX-4 and it was junk!.. IC Diamond on my G73JH was solid and never needed to have it repasted even after using the laptop for almost 4 years... Gelic GC Extreme is another one which I will try next :)
     
  11. DuRoi

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    No, i´m not a bot (look at my avatar and think about the meaning...).
    Plus, i don´t agree with you thermal compound concerning. Arctic Silver Céramique 2 is not bad. Arctic Silver 5 - High-Density Polysynthetic Silver Thermal Compound is better. It´s my opinion.

    Do you know how to apply thermal Compound like a pro? I don´t think so, thats may be your major problem. :p


    P.S- I´m almost sure my email account (this one i use in this forum) is older than you. But i´m just a newbie in this forum with a new account here, that's a fact.

    Prices at my country:

    - Arctic Silver 5 (3,5g) ----> 6,90 € (Euros).
    - Arctic Silver Céramique 2 (3,5g) ----> 3,60 € (Euros).
     
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  12. octiceps

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    Er I wouldn't know about that. There was a recently banned bot that had a picture of a pretty girl as its avatar.

    Arctic Silver 5 not looking so good: Charts, benchmarks Thermal Compound Charts, [6] GPU Cooling


    Teach me, master. Impart your wisdom on me.

    Your email address is over 20 years old? :err:
     
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    Don´t spam please, i was not talking to you. And yes my email address "is over 20 years old", surprised?

    Thread is about Thermal compound not "modern warfare and bullying".

    Just giving my opinion about Thermal compound, if you like other just use it.

    About avatar, that´s a Sinclair ZX Spectrum 48K, the second personal computer ever (first was a Sinclair 1000 1K). Mean lot´s of experience with computers. Understand or do you need 3dsmax 2015 animation?

    Signed by Master Bot :thumbsup:

    P.S- I clearly don´t agree with that benchmarks Thermal Compound Charts, I´m not saying Artic Silver 5 is the best, talking about relation -price-quality-durability-
     
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    No, you quite clearly said it's the best.

    You're telling him to purchase it for high performance cooling, when Ceramique 2 and IC Diamond and Gelid GC Extreme and Liquid Ultra and other various thermal compounds are better. Not "price/performance". BETTER. Better as in "will keep the machine cooler". Simple. It doesn't matter what you "agree" or don't agree benchmark-wise. Liquid metal cooling *IS* the best in performance. It is also durable and lasts a long time. IC Diamond lasts a long time. Ceramique 2 has proven on my machine to be resistant to pump-out effects after a couple months of usage without temperature degradation. I wholeheartedly recommend it over AS5 in every way. Gelid GC Extreme is also easy to use and works well. Some of the Shin Etsu models are also fantastic. It's not an arguable point.

    You're simply giving out information contrary to existing experiences and denouncing those existing experiences as "we don't know what we're doing when applying". Nobody is spamming you, or saying anything else toward you other than pointing out to you that your recommendation is outdated.
     
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    Hi,

    I´m not going to lost my time argue with you. You are not that important ..

    Believe in what you want, i believe in my experience not in benchmarks all over the internet.

    You clearly said Artic Ceramique 2 is the best thermal compound and that´s not true period.

    The way you talk i presume that you have tested all thermal compound in the marked, same day, iqual machine configurations, same conditions, applied exactly same way, there in Trinidad and Tobago, all at same time.

    Congratulations, good job and Merry Christmas.

    P.S- For me, Artic Silver 5 is the best, talking about relation -price-quality-durability-
    I maintain this opinion. Saying what is the best is always relative. When i say "the best" its always my opinion (not others), always related to relation -price-quality-durability-

    For you i recommend liquid Nitrogen, surely the best way to cool your Cpu /Gpu/and your brain.

    Prices at my country:

    - Arctic Silver 5 (3,5g) ----> 6,90 € (Euros) / Top seller 2013-2014.
    - Arctic Silver Céramique 2 (3,5g) ----> 3,60 € (Euros).

    THE END
     
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    1 - LOL says the person who joined this month with 11 posts.

    2 - You use what you want. Just don't sit here arguing that everyone else's experience is incorrect and yours is the only right thing ever.

    3 - I never, under any circumstances, ever, anywhere in this forum, or anywhere else on the internet, or even in real life, said that Arctic Silver Céramiqué 2 is the best thermal compound. I said Liquid Metal is the best way to go, and that Coolaboratory Liquid Ultra is generally one of the best you can use.

    Before you try insulting me, try reading my posts. I stated that as far as Arctic Cooling's product line goes, Ceramique 2 was their best compound. I have used MX-2, MX-4, IC Diamond, Silver 5 and Ceramique 2 ALL on this machine, and Ceramique 2 and ICD are BY FAR the best performing compounds in that selection.
     
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    Thanks guys for the input and sharing your knowledge and experience particularly octiceps for sharing the link to the benchmarks. I have decided to go with either the IC Diamond or the Coolabaratory Liquid Pro. I a going to do a little research on the Liquid Pro and then make a decision.
     
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    Actually after looking at some articles about Liquid Pro and Liquid Ultra I have decided to stick with the IC Diamond. I am not sure the potential problems with using Liquid Ultra is worth the extra cooling that it provides.
     
  19. n=1

    n=1 YEAH SCIENCE!

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    Well at least now you're being honest. You're right it's just your opinion, and it's pretty worthless against multiple tests from various credible hardware sites.

    Merry Christmas to you too.

    You're in Russia, just open the windows in your room! :D

    On a more serious note, if you apply Liquid Ultra properly the risk of harm is minimal. Mr. Fox has been using Liquid Ultra for more than 8 months now I believe and it's still as good as day 1 without any issue.

    And here's someone who used Liquid Ultra on a Macbook for 2 years without any damage to his notebook apart from Liquid Ultra being oxidized to all hell and crapping up his heatsink.
     
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    I'm back again because I am really confused. I was looking on ebay and a seller has sort indicated that IC Diamond 24 and IC Diamond 7 are the same product just in different sized tubes, 1.5 gram and 4.8 gram but the Toms Hardware Benchmark that octiceps provided the link to benches both ICD 7 and ICD 24 and they get different results. Are they the same paste and if so then how come the review get different results?
     
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    So basically, repaste CLU once a year? XD.
     
  22. n=1

    n=1 YEAH SCIENCE!

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    Yeah that's what I'd recommend. I'd personally repaste once every 6 months. It's really not that hard once you get the hang of it.
     
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    Yes they are the exact same paste, just different sized tubes. Results could be due to application differences.
     
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    Bugger that! Its too damn cold out there. How would you like to try playing Far Cry 4 in thermals and a full on winter jacket including fox fur ring around the hood :D

    I am looking at getting a Clevo P375SM-A and I just saw your sig. Are the heat sinks in your P370 copper?
     
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    n=1 YEAH SCIENCE!

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    CPU yes. GPU the core plate and heatpipes are full copper but the vRAM and other components use an aluminum heatsink.
     
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    That is hilarious. Here they are providing comparisons down to 0.5 of a degree but the application error provides a difference of 1.5 degrees.
     
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    Are you happy with the 90% gamut screen? If you ordered again today would still order that screen?
     
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    You don't get the 90% or 72% gamuts selling easily for these machines anymore, but if you're willing to grab something secondhand, I'd suggest the 120Hz panel for that machine. I'm fairly certain it can hold it, which you can check once you get it. Especially if you're grabbing two 970Ms or two 980Ms XD