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    What is the best CPU to get as an upgrade?

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by bwjpg, Jan 10, 2009.

  1. bwjpg

    bwjpg Notebook Enthusiast

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    I have just bought my first laptop.
    An ECS (Elitegroup) G335.
    It was a bargain for a new customer return unit.
    Only £87 on eBay for a modern laptop with g(ood) wifi, a DVD rewriter and a decent sized screen.

    3 problems.

    1.It was sold with only 512Mb of memory which in this day and age isn't enough even for web browsing and word processing. (Oh and one of the memory SODIMMs disappeared so I only had 256Mb of memory. The memory was shared with the graphics and I think the BIOS was shadowed which also lost a few megabytes. So the system only effectively had 184Mb of memory if that. The perils of eBay. Still the seller gave me a £5 refund).
    - Solution order 2Gb of memory from Crucial for £18 including delivery, fit it and away you go.

    2.It only has a 40Gb hard disk. - Solution replace with a larger sata drive in due course. Even the manual says that this is a doddle.

    3.Processor is a sloooooooooooowwwwwwwww Celeron. See CPU z output below for details of revision and stepping and so forth. This is where I need your help. What is the fastest processor that I can fit to my notebook to replace the Celeron?
    Based on my own research I need a socket M CPU and my best bet is a T5200.
    Is there a better cheaper/option?
    Naturally I don't want to buy the wrong thing so I'm seeking out your views.
    I've also included at the bottom of this posting the relevant bit from the end of the manual for this laptop. This only confused me but maybe it will enlighten you as to what processor will work.

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    CPU-Z version 1.49
    -------------------------

    Processors Map
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Number of processors 1
    Number of threads 1

    Processor 0
    -- Core 0
    -- Thread 0


    Processors Information
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Processor 1 (ID = 0)
    Number of cores 1 (max 1)
    Number of threads 1 (max 1)
    Name Intel Celeron M 410
    Codename Yonah
    Specification Intel(R) Celeron(R) M CPU 410 @ 1.46GHz
    Package Socket 479 mPGA (platform ID = 5h)
    CPUID 6.E.8
    Extended CPUID 6.E
    Core Stepping C0
    Technology 65 nm
    Core Speed 1463.0 MHz (11.0 x 133.0 MHz)
    Rated Bus speed 532.0 MHz
    Stock frequency 1466 MHz
    Instructions sets MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3
    L1 Data cache 32 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
    L1 Instruction cache 32 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
    L2 cache 1024 KBytes, 4-way set associative, 64-byte line size
    FID/VID Control no
    Features XD


    Thread dumps
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    CPU Thread 0
    APIC ID 0
    Topology Processor ID 0, Core ID 0, Thread ID 0
    Type 01004003h
    Max CPUID level 0000000Ah
    Max CPUID ext. level 80000008h
    Chipset
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Northbridge Intel i943/940GML rev. 03
    Southbridge Intel 82801GHM (ICH7-M/U) rev. B0
    Memory Type DDR2
    Memory Size 2048 MBytes
    Channels Dual
    Memory Frequency 266.0 MHz (1:2)
    CAS# 4.0
    RAS# to CAS# 4
    RAS# Precharge 4
    Cycle Time (tRAS) 12
    Bank Cycle Time (tRC) 16

    Memory SPD
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    DIMM #1

    General
    Memory type DDR2
    Module format SO-DIMM
    Manufacturer (ID) Micron Technology (2C00000000000000)
    Size 1024 MBytes
    Max bandwidth PC2-5300 (333 MHz)
    Part number 16HTF12864HY-667F1
    Serial number E723F629
    Manufacturing date Week 51/Year 08

    Attributes
    Number of banks 2
    Data width 64 bits
    Correction None
    Nominal Voltage 1.80 Volts
    EPP no
    XMP no

    Timings table
    Frequency (MHz) 200 266 333
    CAS# 3.0 4.0 5.0
    RAS# to CAS# delay 3 4 5
    RAS# Precharge 3 4 5
    TRAS 9 12 15
    TRC 12 16 20

    DIMM #2

    General
    Memory type DDR2
    Module format SO-DIMM
    Manufacturer (ID) Micron Technology (2C00000000000000)
    Size 1024 MBytes
    Max bandwidth PC2-5300 (333 MHz)
    Part number 16HTF12864HY-667F1
    Serial number E723F628
    Manufacturing date Week 51/Year 08

    Attributes
    Number of banks 2
    Data width 64 bits
    Correction None
    Nominal Voltage 1.80 Volts
    EPP no
    XMP no

    Timings table
    Frequency (MHz) 200 266 333
    CAS# 3.0 4.0 5.0
    RAS# to CAS# delay 3 4 5
    RAS# Precharge 3 4 5
    TRAS 9 12 15
    TRC 12 16 20

    DMI
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    DMI BIOS
    --------
    vendor American Megatrends Inc.
    version 080013
    date 12/20/2006


    DMI System Information
    ----------------------
    manufacturer Elitegroup Co.
    product ECS G335
    version To Be Filled By O.E.M.
    serial To Be Filled By O.E.M.
    UUID 00020003-00040005-00060007-00080009


    DMI Baseboard
    -------------
    vendor Elitegroup Co.
    model ref.NO:G335-yymmdd-OT-01-00-FF-FF
    revision To be filled by O.E.M.
    serial To be filled by O.E.M.


    DMI System Enclosure
    --------------------
    manufacturer To Be Filled By O.E.M.
    chassis type Desktop
    chassis serial To Be Filled By O.E.M.


    DMI Processor
    -------------
    manufacturer Intel
    model Intel(R) Celeron(R) M CPU 410 @ 1.46GHz
    clock speed 1466.0 MHz
    FSB speed 532.0 MHz
    multiplier 3.0x


    DMI Memory Controller
    ---------------------
    correction 64-bit ECC
    Max module size 4096 MBytes


    DMI Memory Module
    -----------------
    designation DIMM0
    size 1024 MBytes (double bank)


    DMI Memory Module
    -----------------
    designation DIMM1


    DMI Memory Module
    -----------------
    designation DIMM2
    size 1024 MBytes (double bank)


    DMI Memory Module
    -----------------
    designation DIMM3


    DMI Physical Memory Array
    -------------------------
    location Motherboard
    usage System Memory
    correction None
    max capacity 4096 MBytes
    max# of devices 4


    DMI Memory Device
    -----------------
    designation DIMM0
    format DIMM
    type SDRAM
    total width 64 bits
    data width 64 bits
    size 1024 MBytes


    DMI Memory Device
    -----------------
    designation DIMM1
    format DIMM
    type unknown
    data width 64 bits


    DMI Memory Device
    -----------------
    designation DIMM2
    format DIMM
    type SDRAM
    total width 64 bits
    data width 64 bits
    size 1024 MBytes


    DMI Memory Device
    -----------------
    designation DIMM3
    format DIMM
    type unknown
    data width 64 bits


    Display I2C
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Software
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Windows Version Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition Service Pack 3 (Build 2600)
    DirectX Version 9.0c

    Excerpt from manual


    SPECIFICATION

    Processor

    Yonah with Dual core/L2 cache = 2MB on die, FSB =

    667MHz

    Yonah with Single core/L2 cache = 2MB on die, FSB =

    667MHZ

    Meron with 64 bits Dual core/L2 cache = 2 and 4MB on die,

    FSB = 667MHz

    Yonah Celeron M/L2 cache = 1 MB on die, FSB = 533 MHz

    Operating System Compliance

    Microsoft® Windows® XP Professional Edition

    Microsoft® Windows® XP Home Edition

    Core Logic

    North bridge Intel Calistoga 945GM (940GML), South

    bridge ICH7-M

    Memory

    Expansion 2 slots of 200pin SO-DIMM DDRII module

    Support DDRII 400/533/667MHz module

    LCD Display

    15.4” Widescreen TFT LCD display

    Video & Graphics

    Intel® 945GM (940GML) with Embedded 3D engine (New

    Generation GMA 950)

    The VGA share memory will depend on the

    size of the main memory. The system will automatically adjust the

    VGA share memory according to its setting and environment
     
  2. K-TRON

    K-TRON Hi, I'm Jimmy Diesel ^_^

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    CPU-Z is reading a i940/943 chipset
    and the other program is reading i945

    I would trust CPU-Z that its a i940/943.
    This chipset only supports core duo's so the best you can do is a T2700.
    Other options are the T2400, T2500, and T2600.

    If it is a i945 chipset you can use any socket M processor up to the T7600, willing the Bios supports them

    K-TRON
     
  3. bwjpg

    bwjpg Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks for the response. I'll have to do some more digging.
     
  4. bwjpg

    bwjpg Notebook Enthusiast

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    Following some more digging windows device manager is of the view that I have the 945 chipset. But more interesting is what Linux had to say (see below).

    mint@mint ~ $ lspci
    00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/PM/GMS, 943/940GML and 945GT Express Memory Controller Hub (rev 03)
    00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
    00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
    00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
    00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 02)
    00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 2 (rev 02)
    00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 02)
    00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 02)
    00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 02)
    00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 02)
    00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 02)
    00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev e2)
    00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801GBM (ICH7-M) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 02)
    00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801GBM/GHM (ICH7 Family) SATA IDE Controller (rev 02)
    00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) SMBus Controller (rev 02)
    02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 01)

    It seems Intel use interchangeable parts so my chipset is definitely of the family that contains both the 945, 943 and 940 models. But how do I know which one?

    If I look at the motherboard shouldn't it say somewhere what chipset I have?
     
  5. Andy

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    You'll have to check if the notebook has a 940GML or 943GML chipset. 940 does not support dual cores, whereas the 943 supports dual cores - upto the T7600 depending upon BIOS support.

    You can either run Everest and check the chipset in it, and see if it recognizes the correct one.
    Or, open up the notebook and read the code printed on the chipset die with a flashlight.
    Or, just try a cheap dual core (T5200, T2400, etc), update the BIOS to the latest version, and see if the DC works or not.
     
  6. avanish11

    avanish11 Panda! ^_^

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    pop it open and look if it has an actual socket. My old laptop has a T5200 in it, and the CPU is soldered to the motherboard. Many times with these low end procs, they're soldered to the mobo.
     
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    bwjpg Notebook Enthusiast

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    Will check the motherboard. Thanks for telling me that sometimes CPU is soldered in. I assume that means any processor swapping is out of the question and obviously will check this before buying anything.

    By the way from a quick eBay check I found a T2400 (which I think might work) for £30. Twice the cache, dual core and faster clock speed. So what do you think good deal not a good deal?
    Also what should I watch out for when buying a second hand CPU.
     
  8. stewie

    stewie What the deuce?

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    K-TRON Hi, I'm Jimmy Diesel ^_^

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    for bang for the buck, look for a T5200, T5300, T5500, or maybe even a T7200

    I remember a while back, maybe a month ago their were two people here trying to sell their T7200's for around $50

    K-TRON
     
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    Took off the CPU heatsink/copper cooler/fan combo unit and I have a Celeron M 410 1.46Mhz (SL8W2) which accounts for the lack of oomph. Read it off the back of the CPU - it doesn't get any more reliable than that. Luckily processor is fitted to a standard socket M (not soldered in).

    Thorny question is what chipset do I have and what CPUs does it support?

    I took another heatsink off what I think was the southbridge but the lettering was so faded that even with a desk side lamp I could only make out the Intel (dropped e) logo.

    I'll give Everest a try before I contemplate taking the whole machine to pieces.

    Not sure about ECS website it says that the lowliest processor option is a Core Solo (2MB cache running at 1.66Ghz and with a 667Mhz FSB - definitely not mine) and that it has Intel wireless whereas mine is definitely Realtek.

    I think ECS maybe recycling model numbers.
     
  11. stewie

    stewie What the deuce?

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    The spec says it's 478 pin, which is possible for Celeron.

    Also, you need to look at the "Core Logic" field, which has only one option written, this means that they all use the same 945GM chipset regardless of the CPU. The BIOS update is also one for all, which indicates that they should all have the same motherboard.

    The wireless should be a mini-PCIe add-on card, so that could be different.

    Can you post the complete model number under the laptop? It will help for finding out the actual spec.
     
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    Had a go with Everest, a very comprehensive piece of software, and the news isn't good. I generated the (enormous) complete report but here are what I think are the two relevant parts.

    Motherboard:
    CPU Type Mobile Intel Celeron M 410, 1466 MHz (11 x 133)
    Motherboard Name ECS G335 Notebook
    Motherboard Chipset Mobile Intel Calistoga-GML i940GML/i943GML
    System Memory [ TRIAL VERSION ]
    DIMM1: Micron 16HTF12864HY-667F1 1 GB DDR2-667 DDR2 SDRAM (5-5-5-15 @ 333 MHz) (4-4-4-12 @ 266 MHz) (3-3-3-9 @ 200 MHz)
    DIMM3: Micron 16HTF12864HY-667F1 [ TRIAL VERSION ]
    BIOS Type AMI (12/20/06)

    Motherboard Properties:
    Motherboard ID 63-0100-009999-00101111-122006-Calistoga$0ABHG008_BIOS DATE: 12/20/06 15:50:23 VER: 08.00.13
    Motherboard Name ECS G335 Notebook

    Chipset Properties:
    Motherboard Chipset Mobile Intel Calistoga-GML i940GML/i943GML
    Memory Timings 4-4-4-12 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS)

    Also found a little utility which did turn up one interesting and I think new bit of information.

    chipset: Intel 27AO rev 3

    It seems that my chipset is an i940/943 GML.

    For model number it says and I quote 'Model No.: G335'

    The serial number says 335 then a barcode with 96F71600008Q63800207. But I thought that was just for internal tracking purposes though a lot of people note it down as an anti theft mechanism. The perils of eBay.

    So anyhow what's the fastest processor I can upgrade to?
     
  13. K-TRON

    K-TRON Hi, I'm Jimmy Diesel ^_^

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    You can still upgrade as far as the T7600 if you desire. ECS has sold the system with a T7600, so their is support for dual cores.
    Also if it supports a T7600, it will support all socket M based processors.

    K-TRON
     
  14. stewie

    stewie What the deuce?

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    K-TRON is right.

    Anyway, I found someone with the same G335 motherboard that had upgraded his Celeron to a C2D.

    For the record, just ignore colanth's nonsense best answer lol.
     
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    Mmmh. Alright the consensus seems to be that yes I can go all the way up to a C2D (so long as it's socket M).

    Do I need to flash the bios? (I've killed computers doing this). In theory as the C2D was launched around July 06 and the bios is dated december 06 a bios of that date should support the C2D.

    Also after I've swapped processors will I have to reinstall the OS?
     
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    Yeah, try out a cheap T5200/T5500, or the likes. You can flash the BIOS, but follow the instructions to avoid bricking the mobo. Reinstalling the OS won't be required. If the upgrade goes fine, and the CPU is recognized by the BIOS, then windows will just install the CPU driver on the first boot, restart and will work fine with the multi-core processor.
     
  17. stewie

    stewie What the deuce?

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    If your BIOS is dated December 2006, then I believe you have the latest BIOS already, because according to ECS's download page, the last BIOS release was dated October 2006. In that case, you can just swap the CPU without touching the BIOS. Anyway, you should check the version instead of using the date as a reference. The latest version is supposed to be 060918. If the BIOS you current have is older than this, then you should update it.
     
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    The bios version is (according to CPU z)

    DMI BIOS

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    vendor American Megatrends Inc.

    version 080013

    date 12/20/2006

    which I think means it's more up to date. Unless I think that flashing the BIOS is vital I'm not going to do it. If you flash your BIOS and something goes wrong your computer is dead and that's that.

    I've got a hunch as to the disparity between my machine and the specs on the ECS website. This will make more sense for people who live in the UK.
    ECS under their own name make the G335 and they fit it with a decent spec (faster celeron processor, intel wifi) but PC World (who are part of Dixons Stores Group in the UK - Currys, Dixons, The Link etc) have their own value range which they call Advent.
    PC World are notorious dodgy operators.
    They call up ECS and say they would you like a PC of x specification for x price and they'll buy x thousand units.
    ECS says x price you've got to be kidding. Okay tell you what we can do it for that price but every component that can be swapped for something cheaper will be swapped for something cheaper. Hence 1.46 Ghz Celeron and Realtek wifi.
    I found this spec list for the Advent 8109

    http://www.uktsupport.co.uk/advent/laptop/8109.htm

    That's my machine to a tee (aside from the hard drive being 20Gb larger). Aside from the slower processor, cheaper wifi and no TV tuner it is mechanically a G335.

    Anyhow I was thinking of a T2400

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SL8VQ-INTEL-CORE-DUO-T2400-1-83-2M-667_W0QQitemZ250354142553QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Computing_LaptopMotherboards_CPUs_CA?hash=item250354142553&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1300|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318

    What do you think?
    Dual core, more cache and faster clock and only £30. And if it all goes wrong or if I find a pin is in the wrong place it's only £30.
     
  19. K-TRON

    K-TRON Hi, I'm Jimmy Diesel ^_^

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    The T2400 is good, but its slower than a T5300.
    Read my last few posts in this thread, and you will see why core 2 duo processors are better than core duo ones.

    In my tests, the T5300 completely annihalates the T2500 in all cpu related tasks
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=313598

    K-TRON
     
  20. bwjpg

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    Mmmh so the C2D is really a big architectural improvement over the original Core Duo.

    To be honest I'm a cheapie cheapie cheapie cheap cheapskate so I'll get whatever processor happens to be a good deal at the time.

    My reasoning is anything, even a T2400, is going to be a big leap compared to a Celeron and if anything should go wrong it's better to go wrong with a cheap processor than an expensive one.

    To put things into perspective I just took delivery of my first ever laptop last wednesday, fitted the memory expansion to make it usable on saturday, bought a wired mouse yesterday (£2.49 from Wilkinson, USB but it came with a PS/2 adaptor which is always nice - I will never trust trackpads), Netgear wireless router (my first ever wireless router - only £25, shrink wrapped, still new from eBay) arrived today (got that working this morning).

    So I'm really going at a breakneck pace.

    Anyhow someone else bagged the T2400. Still I've seen a good price on a T5300...
     
  21. stewie

    stewie What the deuce?

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    If you can find a good deal, go for a C2D.
     
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    Well I've bought a T5300 for £23.55 off of eBay so now I just wait for the post.
     
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    K-TRON Hi, I'm Jimmy Diesel ^_^

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    cool, i had the T5300 in my laptop.
    If you followed the link I gave you, you can see how it performs.
    You can run sandra on your machine, and than you can compare. The T5300 is a much faster cpu that the celeron you had.

    Please get back to us after you upgrade

    K-TRON
     
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    T5300 CPU has arrived along with Isopropanol.
    Ordered a camera off of eBay which should arrive on Tuesday.
    I was thinking of taking pictures of my upgrade and making a forum posting to help other people.
    I've posted a test picture on the image gallery section of this forum.
    I'll just write down what I do and what I've found out and post links to other web pages and the image gallery as appropriate.

    What do you think?
     
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    So got all the stuff. Fitted the new CPU. Turned on the notebook....

    and nothing.

    Power comes on and I'm just looking at a blank screen.

    Refitted the Celeron M and everything is back to normal.

    Only thing I can think of is flashing the BIOS which I have a phobia of.

    Any thoughts?
     
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    Just sent this to ECS tech support

    Case ID
    09012000054
    Problem Subject
    Updating the BIOS and its effect on what processor I can fit
    * * * Please Print Page or Write Down Case ID for Your Records * * *

    Q&A

    Mohammed Choudhury Posted : GMT 2009/01/20 15:03:38
    I am trying to upgrade my notebook processor from a Celeron M @ 1.46Ghz (SL8W2) to a Core 2 Duo T5300 (SL9WE). From all my research this should work. However when I fitted the processor it didn't work. Just got a blank screen and nothing else. Put the Celeron back in and everything worked again.
    Possibilities as I see them are

    1. I have a dead T5300
    2. My notebook can not and will never be able to take a T5300
    3. My notebook can take a T5300 but I need to update the BIOS
    4. There is some other unspecified issue

    You can't help me with point 1 but can you
    confirm or deny point 2, is my notebook capable of accepting a T5300?
    Confirm or deny that my version of BIOS (080013) supports the T5300?
    If it doesn't will a BIOS upgrade enable support for the T5300?
    Also is the latest BIOS on your website (060918) more up to date than my version I don't understand your numbering convention?
    Also if I do need to update my BIOS could you send me a link for AMI WINFLASH or email it as an attachment.
    One last thing can I use any version of AMI WINFLASH to update my BIOS or is there a particular version I need for my notebook?

    Before I do any flashing of anything lets see what they say.
     
  27. bwjpg

    bwjpg Notebook Enthusiast

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    So here's what ECS had to say

    Dear Sir/Madam:
    Thanks for contacting ECS.

    We are sorry, we don't support any OEM/ODM model technical issue. Please try to contact your local service center or Reseller for help.

    Best regards,
    Technical Support Department

    So that was precisely no help.

    Everyone I speak to tells me that an out of date BIOS is the most likely culprit.

    Now I have the latest BIOS and the flash utility. Thing is its a DOS utility and the user guide

    http://www.ecs.com.tw/extra/flashutl/DOS Flash Utility User Guide.pdf

    says I have to make a boot floppy. There is no alternative.

    How on earth do you even do that with a modern notebook running XP?

    My initial thoughts are
    1. USB floppy drive?
    2. Boot USB stick?
    3. Burn a CD with Win 98 system files, flash utility and ROM image and boot off that?
    4. Load up a command prompt window in XP and do it from there?

    1 and 2 sound possible 3 sounds ridiculous but possible and 4 sounds highly dangerous.

    One other thing the guide says that the BIOS file should have a .rom extension (logical enough) but the BIOS image ends with BAN. I wonder what it means
     
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    bwjpg Notebook Enthusiast

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    Oh and my BIOS doesn't have a boot from USB option.
     
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    bwjpg Notebook Enthusiast

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    So very tired.

    I finally figured out how to make a boot disk (using the free Nero Startsmart software that came with a DVD rewriter I bought ages ago - it has a make boot CD/DVD option using DR DOS).

    Booted the computer with it.

    Flashed the BIOS - which was very easy as, though they don't mention it anywhere, ECS have a simple batch file that does everything. Or so I thought.

    When I rebooted the computer detected that changes had been made to the BIOS and I told it to load defaults. Everything came on fine.

    But it still doesn't recognise the T5300.

    The weird thing is the BIOS version number hasn't changed but the BIOS date has.

    I ran Everest again and here's what it said.

    BEFORE BIOS FLASH

    BIOS Properties:
    Vendor American Megatrends Inc.
    Version 080013
    Release Date 12/20/2006
    Size 512 KB
    Boot Devices Floppy Disk, Hard Disk, CD-ROM, ATAPI ZIP, LS-120
    Capabilities Flash BIOS, Shadow BIOS, Selectable Boot, EDD, BBS
    Supported Standards DMI, APM, ACPI, ESCD, PnP
    Expansion Capabilities ISA, PCI, USB

    AFTER BIOS FLASH

    BIOS Properties:
    Vendor American Megatrends Inc.
    Version 080013
    Release Date 09/18/2006
    Size 512 KB
    Boot Devices Floppy Disk, Hard Disk, CD-ROM, ATAPI ZIP, LS-120
    Capabilities Flash BIOS, Shadow BIOS, Selectable Boot, EDD, BBS, Smart Battery
    Supported Standards DMI, APM, ACPI, ESCD, PnP
    Expansion Capabilities ISA, PCI, USB

    The date and the smart battery are the only things that have changed.
    Have I actually changed the BIOS if the version number is the same?
     
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    bwjpg Notebook Enthusiast

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    Did you ever sort this, cos i have the same problem..
     
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    bwjpg Notebook Enthusiast

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    No never did get it fixed.

    I thought maybe the first T5300 was a dud so I bought another (more expensive and new) one but had the exact same blank screen and nothing else.

    Sold the processors on eBay. The people who bought them both posted positive feedback and I've heard nothing else so I think we can rule out duff processors.

    There is also the possibility that maybe I'm just a plum who doesn't know what he's doing.

    However I am writing this on my main PC which just last month I fitted a new motherboard, processor and memory to without a hitch. Which would suggest that I know what I'm doing.

    Still use the laptop which chugs along in its Celeron way.

    The maddening thing is I don't know what the issue is.

    If you figure out the solution be sure to make a posting.
     
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    The point is the type of chipset - "i940/943 GML" only CPU-Z doing this right.

    Source: Intel Chipset

    Supported CPU's for this one is:

    Celeron and Core Solo - some motherboards have option to disable 2nd Core of Dual Core CPU (eg. HP, Toshiba)

    SOURCE: ECS Manual Site 71

    The ECS doesn't have that option yet.
     
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    Hey "bwjpg" can you shed any more light on your G335? Anybody have an answer to this head**** Thinking of smashing the dam thing why wont it accept the cpu upgrade? I've went through the same process and blank screen I ran into! done all the research and came across this thread which is almost a saviour... anyhow please reply many thanks!
     
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    G73Guy Notebook Consultant

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    I feel like my flesh is rotting. Necro thread. I am not going to read that far back for that info.