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    What is the best notebook processor?

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by Phillip, Aug 15, 2006.

  1. Phillip

    Phillip Phillip J. Fry

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    I am trying to get an Idea of the best processor that can be put into a laptop for future reference.

    ucb9999 :cool: :D :cool: :D
     
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    _radditz_ Fallen to the Sith...

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    Core 2 Duo 2.33GHz
     
  3. MrWacko

    MrWacko Notebook Guru

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    Debatable, but it's most likely going to be the Core 2 Duo, unless AMD pulls some really good processors out of a hat.
     
  4. solag3

    solag3 Notebook Consultant

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    Wait for the core 2 duo
     
  5. vassil_98

    vassil_98 Notebook Deity

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    Uuuuuh, what a broad and undefined question! Just like "what is the best notebook video card".
    If you use minesweeper all the time, Pentium 166mhz IS the best cpu, if you encode movies, however, core 2 duo might come in handy...
     
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    brianstretch Notebook Virtuoso

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    That you can buy today? Turion X2. C2D will leapfrog it for a few months until the 65nm TX2's are out at the end of the year. I disqualify CPUs that aren't 64-bit capable but there's no consensus as to when that will become critical. If you do get an Intel chip, get one with the largest available L2 cache (4MB?) as that compensates for Intel's lack of an integrated memory controller.

    The biggest trick is finding a notebook with the mix of features you want at a price you're willing to pay. I am sorely tempted by the HP Pavillion dv6045nr that Best Buy has on sale this week but my local store doesn't have them in stock and most of the stores in my region ran out. I should probably wait for the dv9000z series to hit retail and hope they offer a similarly great deal anyhow.
     
  7. drumfu

    drumfu super modfu

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    as already mentioned, this question is totally unanswerable.

    you need to rethink what you're asking and ask it again.

    "best" is... you know what? i give up.
     
  8. clip

    clip Notebook Consultant

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    When will the 65nm Turion 64 X2 be out? Will I be upgrade to TX2 65nm with the HP dv6000z (socket S1).
    What's the big deal of having no integrated memory controller on Intel CPU? I don't understand that when comparing technology side by side, AMD seems to be way ahead of Intel, but the fact is not as it is speculated.
     
  9. Leshii

    Leshii Notebook Evangelist

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    this question is like, "what's the best car?"

    everything has its purpose, advantages and disadvantages.

    for example, Subaru WRX STI has the most bang (literally) for the buck (arguably), but fuel mileage sucks.


    besides my last notebook had desktop processor in it, does that count as a 'notebook processor'? :)
     
  10. nferra2

    nferra2 Notebook Geek

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    Don't let Merom overshadow Santa Rosa.
     
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    clip Notebook Consultant

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    What are the purposes, advantages and disadvantages of Turion 64 X2/Merom?
     
  12. Phillip

    Phillip Phillip J. Fry

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    Ok, I'll try to make the question less broad, and more specific.
    What is the best performance CPU for notebooks. as in which one will deliver the highest overall performance.

    ucb9999
     
  13. Pitabred

    Pitabred Linux geek con rat flail!

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    Depends on what you're using it for, ucb9999. Right now, the Core 2 Duo's seem to have the performance crown. But X2's are competitive. If you just want the fastest overall performance, go with an Alienware or something that has a desktop CPU in it. That'll definitely be fast.

    clip: X2 and Merom are pretty similar. Both do 64bit, both use DDR2. The X2's have a better interconnect, so they scale better and access memory better. You won't have the chipset heat from a Turion since it's all on the processor. The Merom's seem to be performing better (at the moment) because they're well-designed processors, and they're at a 65nm process. The Turions aren't. The ball is in the air as to how much the move to 65nm by AMD will help them, but I seem to gather the consensus is it'll put the X2's leapfrogging ahead again, just like the Athlon64's did previously.
    In short, there's no way to put it in short.
    Both work well, and are very close to one another. Just get a laptop based on the peripherals and what you want to do with it more than on what processor is in it, unless you're a zealot ;)
     
  14. gethin

    gethin Notebook Evangelist

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    If your question is "what is the fastest notebook processor out at the moment" the asnwer is

    The core 2 duo T7600 2.33Ghz.

    The turion X2 are competitve, but they just can't seem to match the Core 2 duo's architecture, and speed.

    Also since the core 2 duo (mobile version) have pretty much the same architecture as their desktop counter part, per clock speed they are pretty much the same speed, meaning that a t7600 should be aproaching the speed of a desktop fx-62 athlon processor
     
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    clip Notebook Consultant

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    Thankx for that
    As what you said, can I say that Turion X2 works much cooler than Core Duo and Core2Duo?
    I have already purchase the HP dv6000z with TL-56 but I'm over here in Vietnam while my baby is in Seattle, not yet have a chance to touch it. I'll be there within a few days though. The laptop has not come yet, so should I cancel it and wait either for Merom or Turion X2 65nm version?
    Are there any excuse for the poor battery life of the Turion X2?
     
  16. Alcyon

    Alcyon Notebook Consultant

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    oh, that one's easy: the Quadro FX 2500M !
    who are you kidding? i get 4672 frames per second in Minesweeper with my yonah 2.0GHz.
     
  17. Phillip

    Phillip Phillip J. Fry

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    I would be using it for the most processor demanding programs around.(Can't think of a particular one at the moment). In other words I would want the one that could handle these types of programs with the greatest of ease. And I would want it to be a CPU that was designed for a notebook. Not one borrowed from a desktop platform. Desktop CPUs generate loads of heat in a notebook system.

    ucb9999
     
  18. rockharder

    rockharder Notebook Evangelist

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    You are asking something that you are really don't know.
    For CPU hunger application, Science computation, Matrixes, Kenerl compilling, flight simulation, and media production.

    Don't think of 3D gamming is really CPU intensive program. They are system (platform) resource intensive. Meaning they require both CPU, GPU, HD, and RAM individual performance and interaction performance. That's why reviewers always want game benchmark.

    I think you are looking for Desktop replacement type of CPU which doesn't really care about battery performance. And you really not that care of computing speed, just want something sounds fast.

    Well, there is one. AM2 X2 35W version really meet your need. But haven't release yet. Maybe some day, some manufactor will do that on Desktop Replacement Machine.
     
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    CobrAA Notebook Enthusiast

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    Call me dumb, i would just like to know,

    In my own experience, my Sempron 3200+ with 1,25g of DDR,60gb go as smooth if not better/faster than my new dell(desktop) with Pentium M,250gb, 1g DDR.

    Why AMD isn't more appreciate it? I'm not an expert, but i always thought amd sempron was better than celeron and athlon/turion was better than pentium lines...Is their a problems or something I should know about this brand? Like there laptop make too much noise,too hot.. i don't know.

    Thanks in advance.

    (P.S: I'm a 17yr old student, who don't have lot of money so i stick with 700-800$ Laptop, so i don't want stupid reply like your sempron suck... :rolleyes: #2. my dell computer was a gift from my mom 3-4 month ago..)
     
  20. suraj

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    Merom or Turion X2 65nm version
    what do they meen with 65nm version
    which version is Turion X2 (Tl 50-60)
     
  21. clip

    clip Notebook Consultant

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    Merom or TurionX2 - it depends on what aspect you expect. Both are ok in performance, I can choose a laptop with my eyes shut if there is Merom inside or TX2 inside.
    What is really concerned is the battery life, which I still am not very clear.
    Anyway, my laptop has just come with TL-56.

    One question is, my company like IBM or Apple do not use AMD CPU on their laptops. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that if Apple or IBM siding with which branch, then it's the better branch; They can give more accurate judgement.
     
  22. ez2remember

    ez2remember Notebook Evangelist

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    As far as I"m aware Dell don't put pentium-m in desktops. Pentium-m is designed for notebooks. What speed is the actual processor of your desktop? What type of cpu?
     
  23. CobrAA

    CobrAA Notebook Enthusiast

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    **** 2 error on my 2 post...i shouldn't write at 4 am of the morning!!

    CORRECTION: It is a Pentium D, the dual-core thing and it is a 3ghz.
     
  24. Phillip

    Phillip Phillip J. Fry

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    I am not trying to replace my desktop. That type of laptop may never exist. I just want one that can do lots of processor hungry task with little or no lag.
    If I wanted to build an insane performace computer then I would start with a desktop. But I don't, I want a notebook that does not lag when I have a number of large programs running at the same time.

    ucb9999
     
  25. rockharder

    rockharder Notebook Evangelist

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    [​IMG]

    Here is the battery life of this new Merom compare to ...

    No, not AMD but Yonah.

    It is funny that authors are definitely Intel's Fan. Here is what they said:
    Something ain't right with the above results since we know that the new T7400 Merom CPUs should have better (or nearly equal) power consumption than the older Core Duo Yonahs. We are awaiting more details about power consumption since it's something that is, perhaps, more important than the performance numbers. We will report more as we hear it.