When are those super powerful notebook batteries coming?

I recall about 2 years ago, i read articles on batteries that could power a laptop for 50 hours or something like that.

Anyone know what they are called? I'm wondering if they are just around the corner or a long ways away

EDIT: I may have found links to them...
http://www.techradar.com/news/mobile-computing/uber-powerful-laptop-batteries-on-the-way-483948
or perhaps this one.. which is for cars, though..
http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/04/1...worlds-most-powerful-li-ion-battery-for-cars/

2nd edit: and here's one more link: http://www.technologyreview.com/energy/20000/

 

Looks interesting.

 

im wondering why i havent heard any news about these batteries lately, though

 

Battery manufacturers probably won't bring them out straight away, they make more money in the long run that way by forcing people to upgrade in incriments, just like with the new graphene technology for processors (there is a 30ghz prototype already in development).

 

wow funky monk, didnt hear about the graphene processors, i remember a while back something about biological processors (made from seaweed or something else) that were very fast too

i just googled graphene and found a 100GHz processor... IBM Details World's Fastest Graphene Transistor - PCWorld

 

analog processors* No 30ghz Intel processors coming our way yet.

 

I'd definitly pay €500 more for a laptop if I would only have to recharge it once a week.

 

That model would only apply if they had some type of organization like a cartel or union or a single developer had a patent on the product.

However, since this is the first I've heard about it, I couldn't say for sure. Still, in a purely business environment, whomever gets the product to market first, gets the bucks!

 

i bet u wouldn't mind the 10kg battery packs too..

 

If it had this sort of technology, it wouldn't matter so much...

 

You underestimate their capacity for greed though.
If they came out with graphene cpu's tomorrow, people would have 0 incentive to buy anything new for some time to come until they develop something better.

Same with batteries.
Incremental updates give them the ability to produce more profits in the long run by selling old technology (so that by the time they get to the stage of say 50 hours of battery life in a notebook, they will be making even more profit).

High leaps of tech that factor by say 30 to 50x more than what you have now is not going to happen in a capitalist based society.

As another poster on these forums rightfully stated, they'd be shooting themselves in the foot by doing that.

 

It just takes some times to have the prototypes (do they even have one) fit for large scale production. There is a big difference between a lab demonstration and full-scale mass production.

If it was a problem of greed, you'd see the device coming out, but at stupidly high price. There could be technical difficulties for mass-production, compatibility issues with current generation hardware, who knows.

If a product is truly ground-breaking but technologically advanced and expensive to manufacture, you'll probably see it first in military and medical applications. Basically, for the people who can afford it.

But frankly, proper long-life batteries are overdue. We'll look back at laptops usable for only a few hours and laugh.

 

Oh I agree that prototypes and large scale production are 2 different things.
But, the 30GhZ graphene cpu is not the prototype ... the 100GhZ cpu is.

And either way, we are still dribbling in low frequency range, just focusing more on multi-threading (which isn't even fully utilized by all software).
Granted, clock per clock the new generation cpu's are better in contrast to their earlier cousins, still, the speed increase in multi-core processing is such a small one it doesn't justify the prices being slapped onto them.
A small bump in speed (ranging in 200MhZ) is charged nearly $300.
The higher up you go, the more expensive it gets.
And if you go into the 'extreme range' it gets nearly twice as much.

The problem is partly that software development has slowed down.

But truth be told, for my rendering of 3d scenes I would prefer a 30GhZ cpu right now.

By the time it reaches the market, it will be so far behind the curve it won't even be funny.
Heck ... even things that we see in the market today are inventions from practically a decade ago.

And the funny thing with 'manufacturing costs' is that I keep hearing the prospect how smaller manuf. process will drive prices down, things will be ultra cheap ... and despite all of this, the new tech is STILL ludicrously priced.

How long have the SSD's been on the market by now?
A lot of them should have dropped in prices by the continuing dribble that 'prices will just go down as more manufactures get into the game'.
We keep hearing about it, but it doesn't really happen that much because there are more than enough manufacturers already 'in the game' and they keep pricing the products too much.
The price drop has been relatively insignificant.

 

The reason why CPU's aren't really going down in price is because there are only who comanies making them (bar IBM, who don't cater for the desktop market), with AMD making taking the cheap and slightly less powerful route, and intel taking the sales from the more expensive but more powerful CPU's.

 

I bought an SSD 8 months ago, it was actually cheaper than now. Could be recession though, and the weak £££.... And it's England anyway, the land of the rip-off

But they're probably the best thing you can do to improve your overall system performance. Try a SSD for a while, then see if you can live without it!

 

So we have these ub3r processors, how would they compare to a GPU performing intense calculation?

 

I hope one day I can have a mini nuclear battery in my laptop

 

There are better ways to commit suicide.

Michael

 

lol u obviously don't do physics.

and u obviously do but i would say this isn't a bad idea... as long as the material is not too radioactive and there is proper shielding.. but lol i doubt it will happen.. just too expensive and dangerous.. terrorists could just buy the batteries , remove the nuclear material and make dirty bombs.

 

Probably pwn them once running up to full potential.

 

This incremental increase concept is extremely important in the technology sector. Many, many, many huge companies went bankrupt because of this. Nortel, for example. They came out with all these fiber optic technology for networking, then nobody wants to buy anymore because the products they sold had too much capability. To this day there is still a huge amount of unused network resources in the US, just waiting to be capitalized on.

If they came out with a 100GHz processor today, all chipmakers will be bankrupt in one year. It'll take like 10 years for software developers to actually develop something for everyday use that exceeds what the hardware can offer. Then Intel, AMD, etc's research and development departments can all go jump off a cliff because they're no longer needed. Add to that the fact that all currently existing chips can just be thrown in the garbage, nobody would ever buy them again. Retailers still got inventory they paid for? Go cry me a river.

No company is dumb enough to burn their own house down. Technological advances happen gradually and IRREGULARLY. You can't honestly believe that Intel and AMD, nVIDIA and ATI somehow magically arrive at the same technology level seemingly simultaneously and they always have pretty much the same performance. You also can't honestly believe that the engineering / research teams sit down and unfold a calendar, saying "alright team, we need a new concept / technology to be realized in 6 months, another one in 12 months, and another in 18 months". Instead, they probably have already got all the "new" generation processors for 2 years down the road sitting in the lab waiting to be actually put into mainstream production. This is called planned obsolescence.

 

They wouldn't go bankrupt, it's just that they can make more money if they don't release it straight away. However, if an everyday piece of software can max out hardware, I don't see that as any reason for the developers to not be needed, if anything it's the other way round.

 

Actually, if you look up the history of the telecommunications companies that went bankrupt, this is actually often the reason. Many companies have gone bankrupt because of them cannibalizing their own future. This is especially true in the IT industry. Hardware and software innovation must be in step with one another. If hardware leads software too much at some point, then there WILL be losses. Major ones. Intel, AMD, etc all depend on the ability to phase out products and force people to upgrade to survive.

We already see people opting for lower end CPUs for demanding tasks like gaming. I have a i5-430M paired with a HD 5850 because everyone knows, the i5 is enough for gaming. Only a few years ago it would have been unthinkable to waste such a powerful video card with a CPU that's at the bottom rung of the mid range group. Why? Right now the CPUs are too far ahead. That's why. Even for most other CPU demanding tasks, it's said that this is more than enough. Only a true enthusiast would opt for an i7.

Can you imagine what would happen if Intel released a group of CPUs that are 100x faster than our current crop?

1) They can't count on replacing every chip in existence, because most chips right now still serve their purpose. I'm not going to throw away my two month old computer and run down to the store and buy another, ESPECIALLY since only the CPU changed from overpowered to very overpowered.
2) For every CPU they sell, they lose one customer. If there's little reason to go from i5 to i7 NOW, then what is the point of upgrading from graphene CPU 1 to graphene CPU 2? No point whatsoever. 2% CPU usage under load vs 1%?...

And you can see Intel's stock go through the roof upon announcement of the technology because the population of stock traders are nearsighted, then plummet along with Intel's sales figures not too long down the road.