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    When are we getting real 6core/8core cpus with hyper-threading for laptops

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by cooldex, Jul 28, 2017.

  1. cooldex

    cooldex Notebook Consultant

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    thinking of amd and intel releasing their extreme CONSUMER cpu's with 16 cores and 32 threads, so when will we get more cores on mobile workstations [non desktop cpus] . It been around 10 years since quadcores been on laptops so its time for another leap in performance for laptops. And since amd and intel are in a intense cpu battle this year, and amd got their efficiency very close to intel if not better. If they made a 6/8core, 12/16 thread @2ghz on all cores and turbo to 4ghz on one core cpu i gladly throw my money at them for that laptop and sell both of my laptops. also why didn't they do that for last gen xeons even at 2ghz woulda been ok for more threads ( vote up top for which one you'll like to see in a laptop)
     
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    But, imagine a 10 core CPU with turbo boost (up to 2.8Ghz or so) and with core parking it could be somewhat efficient.

    Well, I think it would be cool anyway.
     
  3. Carrot Top

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    None of the above. 6C/12T @ 4+ GHz like the rumored Coffee Lake 8700K. It's still LGA 1151 so should be a drop-in upgrade on current Clevo Sky/Kaby Lake LGA notebooks.

    There are also some laptops coming very soon (Asus confirmed so far) that have Ryzen 5/7.
     
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    We already have a 3GHz 8-core Ryzen laptop?
    https://www.asus.com/ROG-Republic-Of-Gamers/ROG-Strix-GL702ZC/overview/
    Coffee Lake is not compatible with existing 1151 motherboards since the pin layout has been remapped. You need H370 or Z370.
     
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    None of the above is the correct answer. :)

    2.5GHz in 2017. Nah...

    Okay, maybe for the next iteration of a netbook. ;)
     
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    i'm talking about the base clock speed for a 6c+ mobile chip (when all of the cores at 100%) and not including turbo boost on 1-2 cores & overclocking capabilities. And yea i saw that ryzen 7 asus laptop awhile back, that actually what made me make this discussion. But considering desktop cpus in laptop formfactors make me think that the battery life have little to none in that aspect. But more in a 45w range is not to much better but more of in laptop capacity, so like 2.5 ghz on all cores, then 4ghz on two cores, with a high power limit. And also more of a certified mobile cpu so more laptop manufacturers would equip their highend with (hp,dell,lenovo,apple,sony,toshiba)
     
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    Honestly I'm just waiting for amds comeback into the mainstream laptop market. I have a real hatred for intel. I honestly think we are far behind where we should be in performance right now because there hasn't been healthy competition. Whatever amd sees fit for their next mainstream mid-high tier processor will be my next purchase.
     
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    Yea i think 4ghz on a MOBILE 6 core plus chip, that is not just on 2 cores is too optimistic, but i love to be wrong on the matter. And i feel that rx580 is going to the weak link in r7 based rog, but vega gpu's is rumored to pull twice the amount power and only beats the 1080 not considering the last titan or 1080 ti. And It be cool if that rog have a socket cpu and can be upgraded to next gen r7's or threadripper. But i'll like to see more xeon chips in laptops too.
     
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    The Clevos are already doing 4GHz+ 4 core AVX stress test stably (especially after delidding).

    Why did ROG pair the R7 with a RX580? R7+GTX1080 would be so much better.
     
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    Yea 4ghz on 4 core is possible now, (Actually i can do that but not 100% stable....yet) but with four other cores taging along now, that would probably be in the 90W plus department ...on the best architecture. (also anyone know the best way to get stability with overclocks in XTU app, change voltage or cache, sytem agent v)
     
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    See:
    https://www.bit-tech.net/previews/t...preview-asus-rog-strix-gl702zc-benchmarked/1/


    As this is just a preview of what's to come; it should be at least interesting to see where both AMD and Intel end up with real world products.

    Less than 90 minutes of battery life in a 'light' workload though does not bode well for my considerations.
     
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    That's likely due to Free-sync. The Ryzen + Vega APU models will be MUCH more power efficient.
     
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    Do you have a source for this? I only saw LGA 1151 in the Covfefe Lake leak, nothing about pinout changing.
     
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    We have several articles about it over at HardwareBG (local HW site)
     
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    Are you allergic to posting links? I can Google Translate just fine.
     
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    It's rude to leave someone hanging like that, three posts until you provided the link. Which is just a rumor.
     
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    It's not.
     
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    Only if Intel is pushed hard by AMD we can hope seeing the 3rd mainstream cpu in old socket.
     
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    Wanted an all AMD machine and waiting for Vega would delay too much? Performance aside, there's a lot of desire out there for such a machine, and they're selling to that crowd.
     
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    I mean, for 1080p gaming, the 1060/580 cards are more than enough.
     
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    Especially on a smaller screen, you can turn details down and get great FPS on nearly anything without really sacrificing too much.
     
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    If all cpu`s have the same computational power, I would prefer the 6/12 as 1/6 cpu power for single thread apps is better than 1/8 or 1/10 power.

    John.
     
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    I don't imagine they'll be doing the same thing as NVidia where there are 1:1 desktop chips. It will likely look more like the old mobile chips or current MQ chips.
     
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    IDK, this laptop design looks like it can "take the heat" :D
    FCJ7FLGH3HCL71P.MEDIUM.jpg
    It's a "Clevo" design, so you know it's built for performance ;)
     
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    I like the design :D And I really hope it doesn't contain any sorts of power gimped Max-Q or i7 BGA. My money is ready to be spent if everything is socket hardware :p
     
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    That is the best thing I've seen all day.
     
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    Which barebone is that beauty?
     
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    That's the new "Steam" powered "water-cooled" special from Clevo, rumored to contain an i9 x299 board + an Nvidia Titan Xp ;)
    http://www.instructables.com/id/Steampunk-Laptop/
    Uhl´scher Kalkulator (Steampunk Laptop) .3gp
     
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    I'd like to see someone invent on-the-fly software-based core deactivation.

    so if you're not gaming or doing anything cpu heavy, press a button and deactivate 2 cores for battery savings.
     
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    Or just use TS. Make you 4 power profiles. If you don't doing something heavy just click a simple key command on the fly and the processor clock down and run with lower clock speed.
     
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