When will i7 notebooks be released w/windows seven?

I want to get a new laptop but i want one with i7 and someone on this forum told me they might be released early 2010.Also i heard of these cpu/gpu fusion cards that siund really good.Is it worth upgrading from my Sig?

 

Will there be laptops with 32gb ram and terabyte HDDs,also 8 cored cpus?

 

The Nehalem-based notebook platform is supposed to be out by the end of the year; depending on who you believe, Windows 7 may or may not be out by then. Depending on the overall cost of Nehalem-based notebooks and on what you're doing with your computer, it may or not be a worthwhile upgrade.

Eventually. I could see the terabyte HDD by the end of next year; the 32GB of memory and an eight-core notebook CPU probably need an additional one or two years.

 

Not for a long while.
The only laptop with 8 cores is my octitron, but that is not done yet. I still need to machine a chassis for it.

Most of the i7 desktop chips have a very high power usage, so until they can make the i7 run in the 45 watt or less TDP, you will not see any go mainstream.
This will probably take another year before their are mobile i7's
32gb ram is way over the horizon. Their are only like 2 laptops which can even support 16gb of memory, so 32gb is a far way. Maybe another 4 yrs.

1Tb drives may come within a year or so.

K-TRON

 

Windows 7 should be out right before the end of the year according to all the evidence so far. I think mobile i7s will come out probably mid 2010 or so if I had to guess and 32GB RAM won't be happening for a LONG time. Even the 8GB RAM capable notebooks cost way too much to fill with 2 4GB RAM sticks.

 

The laptop in your sig is fine... unless you're part of very small sector that works on intense calculations and/or 3D graphics, you probably don't need an 8 core processor with 32GB of memory. And in the off chance you are, you're gonna have to stick with a high end desktop.

 

Do you really want a Core i7 laptop? The Core i7 processors are desktop, laptop version will be Core i4 or i3 probably. Time line for release:

Fall 2009: Quad Core 45nm (codnamed Clarksfield) are released on Calpella platform
Early 2010: Dual Core 32nm with integrated graphics (codenamed Arrandale) are released on Calpella platform
Later in 2010: Clarksfield is shrunk to 32nm on Calpella platform

 

Maybe i'll just buy a new desktop since i mostly play games on it.

 

What about the cell cpus that were made by ibm/sony dont those have 8 cores.

 

They have 8 cores, one is a "spare" that is disabled, one is the OS core and the other 6 run the game engine code. These aren't "standardized" or socketed processors to be used in typical computers, and they aren't designed to run x86 code so windows et pretty much everything other than customized linux installs, wont run on them.

 

Mobile Nehalem is worth waiting for.

 

Is i7 quad core or 2 core or is it 3 .

 

i7 is quad corel. It's main new feature is Intel QuickPath, essentially Intel's response to the HyperTransport that AMD uses. Essentially, both are point to point interconnects that replace the FSB. It's a faster connection from your CPU to your components. Uses DDR3 memory as well.

As for octocore, I can't see any laptop user needing it very soon. Very few people make full use of their dual or quad core processors.

 

For SURE, those are set to release tomorrow by the company Hasbro.

 

I work in video production and the i7 (Desktop) BLOWS AWAY any other CPU when it comes to editing suites, and encoders that support multi-threading. Ten if you have a Quadro CX GPU to encode video out of Premiere CS4, you see HUGEEE benefits...way over even an Opticore machine. Just because the encoding uses botht he CPU and GPU.

That said, people in video production and in the media travel a lot and use laptops....we all want the i7 in notebooks (and not desktop replacements....I've used a number of Clevo-based desktop replacements and we just end up destroying them. They wear our quickly because we are using the CPU and GPU constantly, especially during encoding....plus it's not fun lugging around gear on your back, and thne a 15lb laptop (including the powersupply, which adds about 3lb on top of the 12lb laptop ;p).

This all said, I am hearing it will be 2010 now after hearing late 2009 for awhile there.

The Core i5 might be something we see sooner in a mobile version, even though the desktop version itself doesn't come out until later this year.

 

haha that just made my day xD

 

I hope my next laptop will be with, i7
( I will try to not upgrade to that time)
((Sig))

 

The sager 9280 on www.Xoticpc.com it's what I am getting it also has a MXM 3.0 GPU slot so you can basically upgrade and exchange anything in the computer... say hello

 

This thread is..... fun. lol.

 

The first Calpella(Nehalem generation Centrino) will probably be released August-September with the quad core Clarksfield variants. The GPU-in-CPU cores will be out Q1 of 2010, but they are dual core, and I doubt the IGP will outperform your 8600M GT no matter how good it is.

How it'll perform will largely be based on what models Intel are willing to release. If they want to release low-power 35W quad cores, then it won't really attract the performance users much. It'll need 55W versions to truly replace the top current quads.

Forget about 8 cores until 2012, and even then, maybe.

 

i7 quad core will have hyperthreading, so it will be "like" having 8 cores. i7 isn't going to be a step up compared to current models for most people. Only people such as those above who need to encode on the go will find it useful. For games and day-to-day users, just stick with whats currently around.

 

You are probably fully aware that he wants true 8 cores, not logical 8. In that sense, we won't have them for at least few years.

The PCI-Express controller on-die will help for gaming performance. Not a whole lot, but it won't be like the current i7 where with single GPU high res settings there might actually be a performance loss. I think Calpella will be actually pretty good.

I'm surprised at the rumored release date for Windows 7. Hope its not a failure like Vista was.

 

At least RC testing of Win7 seems to be going a lot better than XP/Vista when it had it's RC testing.

 

Nehalems are quad-core processors.

As for 32gb RAM in laptops, I think I'll be using my hoverboard before I see that.

 

You have a hover board!?!

We'll see 32_ gigs of RAM probably sooner than most people think. We already have visual professionals wanting to swap over to laptops due to portability. Once they (the manufacturers) can get the power of the laptop rivaling the desktop alot more people will go after laptops i think.

We could tachnically have a 20ish in laptop have anything a desktop can have (even cpu power wise sans video card) So if someone was willing to push it (see the 24in octitron) we could easily see 16-32 gig laptops with stupidly powerful CPUs and graphic engines.

Think about it 20.1 in with core 7 CPU, 16Gb RAM, 1920x1200 screen, 280m SLI, 3+ hard drive slots, and you basically have a easily portable desktop with a built in UPS

 

And it will only weigh 30 lbs... UPSes are frigging heavy!

 

I7 has 8 threads doesn't it?

Two per each quarter? its basically like a quad with hyperthreading.

 

http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/range.html?t=nb&c=gaming&r=X9R

 

Real Visual Professionals have 30" screens with 2560x1600. and TWO of them.

and yes, i know quite some that really do! they could get used to 1x1920x1200, but you know, it's just much too small..

 

I personally think cell is the way forward, it's great at number crunching. But it would mean a redesign of the windows OS so it's not going to happen

 

I meant the battery

Hey i'm all for a 30in laptop with a 2560x1600 screen... but most people arent. But then again 30+lbs isnt really that heavy to me.

I think it would be easy to have more than one screen too. The lenovo shows that. I wish they would make a 3 screen laptop. That would be freaking awesome!

Amazing for data entry and visual pros, and a bonus for gaming people as well. I know i would love to replace my 3 screen desktop with something alot more portable. I know i would lose a bit of productivity, but still the great form factor and portability would be really nice.

Hook me up with a nice 20in 1920x1200 (or better) res middle screen and 2 pull out 12in screens with a 1440x900ish res and i would be ecstatic. But i'm probably not the norm so it might not ever happen

 

fully agreed except the side screens should have the same pixel height than the middle screen (but can be less wide, half wide f.e.)

that's the sad part of our industry: not-norm stuff gets killed, sometimes before birth. sometimes after (16:10 dies right now, after 4:3 died).

at home, i'd like a 2560x2560 screen, 35-40" size. for a laptop i'd like different things, one similar to your idea.

 

Lol then the battery life would be 13min and it would be just as easy to bring your comp.... Im going to stick the 9280, has the I7 and a 280 m and 6gb ram that's good enough for me

 

You would be surprised about battery life.

Whats the power draw of a Core i7 CPU? 130ish watts? I could have a 12 core 3 x QX9300 set up for the roughly same power draw and destroy any core i7 set up.

Plus my battery is a UPS not really something i'm going to use more than 20ish minutes every now and then.

Like i said, not a laptop for everyone, but i would pay real money for something like that

 

Point taken, although is it possible to tri or even dual link CPU configurations???

 

server cpu's can be in any configurations. mainboard with 8 cpu slots exist.

 

I'll stick with the higher clocked dual-core Arrandale for my 3d needs. Running 4 threads will be enough for me seen as how i'm just starting out.
Then i'll wait a couple years till Haswell shrink (16nm?) before purchasing a 2GHz+ quad core notebook running at <35W . That way i'll see a huge jump in performance when rendering and encoding compared to Arrandale. As quad will be standard and it will feature AVX & FMA instructions as well as double the data path (128-bit -> 256-bit).
Not to mention software will have been optimized to take advantage of all this so probably looking at ~x4 performance in cpu intensive applications on notebooks compared to Arrandale.
Although i'm just speculating it's still plausible.

 

You guys really might as well glue a 30in monitor to a full tower setup and call it a laptop....and when you need to move it, you can always order a crane for a few hours to put it in your large travel luggage that you have glued 2 straps to in order to make it a "backpack"..... and for kicks, glue a cement bag to it and a few boulders just to complete the portability factor.

haha...

 

hehe

I can see the uses for big laptops, like 20" or so, for one thing: concerts and similar "moviing things" that need good computing power, while stilll being quite portable on the go.

concerts mostly need systems for light and audio handling, maybe video streaming, and for this they use computers. there, a huge notebook is great. it doesn't use much space for transport, but is excelent once set up at it's place to use.

besides that, i'm all for small.

and those big things even have integrated "usv" for short powerouts

 

Its not that bad at all. A really good 20in with a set up similar to what i stated would probably weigh 25-30lbs max. Still WAY more portable than a desktop and really not that heavy (especially considering the nice form factor)

I understand it wouldn't be the notebook for those typicaly happy with EEE's or subnotebooks, but i think there would be a decent market.

Like i said i need screens, CPU power and graphics. Thats easily doable just no one does it. Maybe i need to bribe K-tron

 

lol, when the mobile i7's begin shipping we'll be drooling over the next uber processor!

 

Put a real definition on cell and then we will talk. The PS3 Cell and derivatives are nothing new, PPC core with Multiple vector cores's, heh the PS2 had a MIPS core and 2 vector cores. IBM Cell is much more up to date technology wise and of course MIPS is defunct.

PC's have turned to their GPU's as an alternative to vector processor's and the moment we have GPU on CPU your that much closer to your beloved cell.

Thats the same Clevo that Sager is selling though the two configs shown are the lesser powerful variants.

 

While this is true the cell is still the more powerful processor. Our CPU's in the x86 architechture are begining to plateau in terms of performance due to heat issues, the cell offers much more performance and runs at similar tempretures.

Having task offloaded onto different SPE's is much more efficient. The cell in the ps3 literally kills the i7 in terms of performance.


i7 can do about 50 gigaflops
cell can do 100 gigaflops

Double the performance of the i7.

 

and still the cell is much worse for most tasks than any ordinary computer. it's like a very fast racing car that has no steering wheel.

i know quite some developers working on it, none like it, as it's nearly impossible to get workloads onto it to perform fast.

in short: cell is overrated. (so is "we have .. blabla .. gigaflops". if you can't make those flops do the ops YOU want, they're useless).