When will see see e-sata built into Notebooks?

Besides the C90 is there any notebook/notebook manufacturer that plans on incorporating built in e-sata anytime soon? i want a notebook, but i dont want to have to use up my expresscard slot to get e-sata.

 

its in the g1s

 

I think it'll happen over time as it becomes more of a standard, and external drive manufacturers embrace it more. Right now USB 2.0 or Firewire are still very prevalent.

 

I think you will see it on many desktop replacment laptops that come out this year. Asus has it on a few models already. I think the ideal place for eSata would be on docking stations but manufactuers dont seem to upgrade the docking models very often.

 

Esata will catch on fast, as it actually offers a benifit.

the fastest connection right now is fireware 800 and thats still not fast enough to give you the full speed of a HDD (esp not one of those neat raid 0 external drives) e-sata however can, so it will be a very nice addition.

I'll recomend these guys for now till I find a better price or performance seller.

http://www.lacie.com/us/index.htm

they have e-sata on some of there higher end products.

 

I dont think esata is very useful .

It would be better on a docking station.

The esata device has to be plugged in. It is not a mobile device like a 2.5 inch usb powered external drive can be.

So even though you can esata 2.5 inch drives , they have enclosures, the fact that you need to also plug in a usb card to power them makes them less useful so much so you wont use them

the 3.5 inch drive, well it is an external. although added speed is appreciated for your large ac only drive, you cant boot from it and your installed programs are not on it.

I dont think its a deal breaker.

 

What do you mean... you just usea e-sata cord and connect to the extrernal drive enclosure and bam your off and going. just like firewire, or an internal sata drive to your mobo. except is E (EXTERNAL) Sata.

They can be used as a bootable drive, and they do need a power cord (atleast this one does here)

http://www.lacie.com/us/products/product.htm?pid=10894

look at the documentation its much faster on esata than firewire 400, and still above firewire 800, and massivly faster than usb 2.0... so for a power user I think esata is wonderfull.

 

He ment that either eSATA needs an external power supply (making it hard to use on the go) or you need to plug in both eSATA and USB. If you plug in both eSATA and USB the data is transmitted by eSATA and the device is powered by USB. eSATA does not supply power, USB and Firewire does.

 

Yes, new Asus laptops have em. The Asus S96J recently got a mini refresh and now comes with an eSata port.

 

Hi

can someone please look in the bios and tell me if it is possible to actually boot from esata? thanks!

 

ya I mean e sata doesnt power 2.5 inch drives

If you have to plug in usb to it anyway why not just plug in 1 cord to the usb? I have a feeling youd do that eventually anyway.

It is like the unpowered firewire port on my laptop. Useless for externals


It would be primarily a desk item so Im saying it might as well be on a docking port.

it is a desktop tech pretty much maybe ideal for a sff pc

 

The Asus Z37s/S37s also has it. I think eventually, all of the Santa Rosa refreshed Asus Ensemble and Barebones will have it.

 

It is, I've done it on my ASUS Z84JP. Only thing is, when you boot with a drive connected, it sees that as the first drive and the internal drive as the second drive. That's a little weird, but hasn't caused a real problem. Note also that my boot test involved Linux (CentOS 5.0 64-bit) not Windows. XP is installed on my internal drive only. I suppose it could work with Windows but I'm not 100% sure.

All I can say is eSATA is awesome and I hope other laptop brands follow suit. It is one of several reasons why I wouldn't trade my Z84JP for any other laptop.

From my speed tests:
USB 27MB/sec
Internal SATA/150 40MB/sec
eSATA (SATA-II drive) 80MB/sec

on the same laptop! Haven't tried Firewire, don't want to since I use that for video grabbing.

 

I dont see eSata becoming a preferable connector type on laptops for durability reasons. It is still pretty weak, and I cant find any non-solid core eSata cables, meaning very little flexibility.

 

I haven't ever had trouble with the cable coming out. But of course the laptop is always on a stationary desk or table when I use it with an external drive.