When will the glossy fad end?

The glossy screen fad is becoming a major problem. Not only is it nearly impossible to find a matte screen, you never know what will come out of the box (at least, HP's site doesn't tell you anything about screen finish anywhere, and none of the phone help know, that's for sure; I haven't checked others, but form what I read, I gather it's much the same).

The only people that can benefit from a glossy screen are troglodytes that spend all their time in the dark gaming. Since 99.999% of the laptop buying public (and where 99.999% of the laptop revenues come from) need to use their screens in a well lit place, the current state of the market is rediculous.

This comes from wanting to immediately exploit a newly identified niche market (for laptops, anyway), namely gaming. Then going completely overboard and providing no alternative. It's like the automobile industry committing all it's resources to high margin products like large trucks and SUVs, and we've seen what it's done for them.

Any given model, except gaming specific or work specific, should come with a Glossy option and a Matte option, just like you can select processor, disk, etc.

The laptop companies are all out chasing the next biggest fad, and not staying in touch with the needs of their primary market (business users). I sure hope they get a clue soon!

I've had my hp dv2700t for about 5 days now. I had no idea it was glossy until I opened the box. I checked back, and nowhere on any HP web page does it indicate glossy or matte. I have yet to find a place where I can work on this laptop without constant eyestrain and fighting the glare. It's pathetic.

Aside from the glossy screen, and Vista's pathetic attempts at usability, the laptop is very nice, from what I've seen so far.

I will try various matte inducing options, and ask HP if there is a matte screen option (but that I doubt).

If you have the opportunity to air the need to have a Glossy/Matte choice to a laptop manufacturer, please do so! We can't live like the forever!

 

anti-glare screen/sticker perhaps

 

swap the screen.. they are not that expensive and then you can pick whatever you want..

 

he has limited choice, not all screens are compatible with one another due to the plugs

 

Im not a fan of glossy myself, sure it looks great in a dark room but more often than not you have light around and it reflects.

The Asus screens are supposed to be a hybrid and I like the one on my c90s its glossy enough to boost color contrast but its not a mirror.

 

''14.1" diagonal WXGA High-Definition HP BrightView Widescreen Display (1280 x 800)''
Pulled from dv2700t specs
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I can understand why you are annoyed but a little bit of research would have avoided this problem...



EDIT: hehe Jin But then again dell doesnt tell you either, they have their own name...lol

I have been using a glossy screen for 3+yrs. Having one of the 1st notebook with glossy screen. I am quite used to it, i am buying a new notebook in the summer and to be honest I dont really mind what screen i get.

 

Well HP does kind of tell you. Their glossy screens are called Brightview. Still, they should say "Brightview, glossy" instead or something like that.

Johnny beat me to it.

 

i thought brightview was the term for HP's backlighting

Unfortunately most notebook companys do not disclose the LCD manufacturers detailed specs and info

 

Na...they have used that term for glossy screens for years.

 

Amen to that.

Glossy is the way to go for a business though, considering, most laptops are used in office enviroments (florescent lighting).

 

I usually like the rooms I'm in to be dark anyway, but I really like my matte screen. My roommate last year had a glossy one and I don't know how he could stand it. I guess I'd be able to notice a difference in color and stuff if they were sitting side-by-side or if I was used to using one and then swtiched to the other, but I have been completely happy with mine - gaming, movies, all of it.

I'll probably get something for my screen when I get my new laptop.

 

Why do you say that??? isnt that the total opposite of the truth?

Im at work and have like 8 fluorescents above me and they reflect off the screen some and like I said above my screen is not even high gloss. Id be looking at the lights in my screen if I had a high gloss like a sony.

I think Matte is what you want when you have alot of lighting around and thats usually what most offices are like.

 

Yeah, I really wanted a matte screen on my new lappy, but the only screens that seemed to come in matte on Xotic were either low res or on crappy laptops. Where can you pick up the glare reducing stickers? And do they skrew with display quality other than reducing reflection?

 

When I was a cube dweller (before becoming a field consultant) and back in the day of CRT (lo these many years ago we used to remove the middle florescent light from all the fixtures in engineering, and some even used cardboard hoods to further reduce glare. Some even purchased glare screens for their CRTs. Back then it was universally realized that glossy == bad ergo and eyestrain.

Has anyone has specific experience with the myriad of matte cover attemts? I heard of using privacy screens, mylar, and plastic foil. Seems like a matte finish that statically adheres to the screen (e.g. Colorforms, remember those? lol) would be the perfect solution.

 

On one of my older DV6000, it came with a glossy screen and at first I couldnt stand it since I kept seeing myself

After awhile though, it sort of grew on me and now I care as much as i use to

 

Well, hopefully that will be the case. It's quite frustrating now, however.

I can't help, whenever I hear "grew on me", having a mental picture of Stephen King in the movie Creepshow, where he touched something that ended up growing all over him.

 

I used to hate the glossy look too and thought from what I saw in stores that "anti-glare" screens actually added glare! I'm now using one however and it doesn't bother me at all although I'm lucky to not have lights behind me.

I think for out doors use with direct sunlight striking the screen the "anti glare" aspect might actually be true, but I haven't tried it.

 

The glossy screens are great for the cube dweller. It does stick for a window office. I don't know what kind of harsh lighting is at your office, but we don't get massive amounts of glare here with our lighting. If anything, people complain their screens are too bright.

 

I definitely dont see glossy screens as a "fad" in any sense of the word. They will never go away now that they are here.

And saying HP does not tell you which screen is glossy on their website/help desk doesnt know the difference is simply not true. You typically have to pay extra for a Brightview screen, and they also have this blurb for computers that come with it (which is all of them)

You have to see HP BrightView’s clearer images to believe it! With eye-popping colors, high-gloss screens, and your notebook display’s improved contrast and clarity, imagine how much more you’ll enjoy your music videos and movies. Reduce eye fatigue with anti-reflective technology, which also limits the sun’s reflection so it doesn’t get in the way of your viewing enjoyment.

 

This goofy guy's video shows what I mean about the anti glare screen helping in outdoor use:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-MxjeuSJk0

 

On the consumer line, Brightview (glossy) screens are standard with no option for matte. This was done a few refreshes ago........

Ultra Brightview signifies dual-lamp glossy.

 

I think it'll end when screens produce things in 3-D or become holograms

 

There not just for gaming in the dark, but also for watching movies in the dark, neither of which I do or have any interest in doing. I wish all manufacturers gave you a choice on there models, but I'm sure that glossy is here to stay.

 

Already done:
http://www.i4u.com/article1902.html

 

No problems with my "glare" screen. If I'm in a super bright environment like outside, I just put up with it. In the office, turn the laptop so it's not reflecting the light in my face. Of course, I've never had the experience of a matte screen. But choice is good. Start complaining to the manufacturers. Silence is acceptance.

 

If i am correct, Toshiba has already done this before. In a consumer laptop at that.

 

And that not even sure because I know that I can make my colors more vibrant by upping the saturation and digital vibrance in the nvidia control panel and still enjoy a glare free screen.

 

This is the thing I don't get. I have a glossy screen myself and I don't understand how overhead lighting is bothering you (or others), you have to be at incidence = reflection angle to pick up a glare and I just don't see how sitting at a desk with a notebook will be shining/reflecting overhead lights in your face. It's frankly impossible given light's behavior.

 

I'm not sure how you use your laptop but you don't see how this woman might see overhead lights on the ceiling behind her?

 

Dude, I'm not looking at the light behind me, I'm looking at my shirt. My shirt, face, and everything behind me is lit by room light, sunlight, any light at all.

The windows behind me appear on either side of my reflection. The lamps, overhead lights in the distance, anything illuminated behind me reflects off my screen, back into my face, well within the sizable angle of incidence (take from my eyes to the top and bottom, left and right of my screen about 2' in front of my face, and extended behind me for anywhere from 5 to 50 feet.

When was the list time you were in a well lit room with a glossy screen?

The idiots who decided glossy should be the only option for laptops should be condemned to using their laptops in well lit rooms until their companies bring out matte options for everyone else.

 

...right now? My laptop screen is facing my living room and I don't notice any annoying glare at all.

Mzil: I've never known anybody who uses their laptop with the screen tilted back that far.

 

Trust me, they exist:

 

Stock images aren't quite proof, but okay, I suppose some people do tilt them back that far.

 

depends on the LCD screen's viewing angles...

HP is the king of gloss, you might wanna avoid it if you dont like seeing yourself. Even the keyboard on SE's have gloss, i think i can see myself on them.

 

lmao @ that desk.

 

Thats a stock image and the only reason its titled back that far is to be able to see whats on her screen

 

No, shes really retarded.

 

Really? The center of her screen looks almost exactly perpendicular to her line of site to me. My laptop looks best this way: circles are not ovals, squares are not trapezoids, and the image has the best contrast this way.

 

I'm using an analogous one right now. They're great.

-rolls under the main desk when not in use.
-adjustable tilt and height (my main desk doesn't do that, does yours?)
- frees up main desk for other things
- rolling foot can be slid under a bed and can be used as a bed desk
- mouse pad area has separate height/tilt

 

We prefer the term "tan-challenged-American"

 

or just get a thinkpad...they come with matte standard and glossy as an option in some models i believe.

 

Dell Latitudes also have matte screen option

 

dell also comes with the Grainy screen option

while HP comes with the overgloss