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    Where Can i get this Ram from ? (buy) Canada

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by Lavitz, May 25, 2008.

  1. Lavitz

    Lavitz Notebook Evangelist

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    I am planning on upgrading my ram to 4 gb for my sager . The best ram i have found is the G.skill ram with really good timing. I haven't found anything as good for that price. There is the kingston hyper x ram for $130 and i don't see anything better about it. So i have 2 questions

    Where can i get the following ram in CANADA? (online store - that ships to canada)
    http://www.newegg.com/Info/KnowledgeBase.aspx
    Is there any better ram i can get for about the same price that ships to CANADA ?

    Thanks
     
  2. powerpack

    powerpack Notebook Prophet

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    Bad link. Ship it to an American and have them ship to you.
     
  3. notyou

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    I wouldn't worry about the timing, I think it makes all of a 3% difference, plus laptop chipsets will likely clock it to CL5 anyways. As for where to buy parts in Canada, NCIX is the best place I've used. Here's a link to all RAM available: http://www.ncix.com/search/?categoryid=2-1301&q=. 4GB for $80 + shipping.
     
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  5. Lavitz

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    yeah i use those stores alot. But they don't have the G.skill ram and alot of people have said timing is big thing. It process info quicker. But the thing is we don't how much of a performance boost it would give.
     
  6. notyou

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    Found a couple of sites that prove my point, there are very small differences between memory but not enough unless you're an enthusiast. However, enthusiasts will have a MB with access to BIOS features to tune their memory while laptop and most desktop users do not, thus negating what I believe you're trying to do (increase performance by tweaking timings).
    http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=873
    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ddr3-1333-speed-latency-shootout,1754-13.html
    In the second link, take note of the different brands of RAM with the same speed where only timings differ. In the memory benchmarks and so forth, there's almost no difference in scores (unnoticeable without benchmarks).
     
  7. Gregory

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    TigerDirect usually has the same stuff as Newegg. Although sometimes they charge a few bucks more. I can't say for sure whether it has what you're looking for, since the link you gave is to the Newegg knowledge base, not a particular item. Check it out. :)

    TigerDirect's Canada site is:

    http://www.tigerdirect.ca/
     
  8. Lavitz

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    http://www.ncix.com/search/?categoryid=2-1301&q= from those ram selection what ram should i get that is 4 gb :) Im thinking the corsair because its a good brand name and price is good. But the ocz is cheaper and the brandname is good but its pc5400 would that work in my system? Also there is the kingston hyper x but that is a bit expensive but the timings are lower by default. But im sure i can lower the timing on the ocz and corsair with no problem correct?
     
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    pc 5400 is same as pc 5300
     
  10. notyou

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    Nope unless your Sager has a special BIOS you can't access memory timings. Like those links I posted, the tradeoff between latency at the same speed is negligible when the latencies are within a point(?) or two. Just get whichever is cheapest but has a lifetime warranty. The OCZ would be my choice.

    EDIT: I believe that the chipset auto defaults the timings to whatever it has embedded in it's "brain". So your 667MHz RAM with 4-4-4-12 timings would likely default to 667MHz with timings of 5-5-5-15 thus wasting the 2% performance increase you thought you'd get. I also conducted a little study of my own, I used to have 533MHz RAM running at 4-4-4-12 which I upgraded to 667MHz w/ 5-5-5-15 timings. After the upgrade I reran benchmarks and found that the speed increase was almost perfectly negated by the looser timings, so all I gained was another GB of RAM since the laptop previously had 1GB.
     
  11. TheGreatGrapeApe

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    Actually, NCIX has the GSkill ram, check below the pictures, they have alot of GSkill ram, but only 1GB CL4 stuff;
    http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=29772&vpn=F2-5300CL4S-1GBSA&manufacture=G.SKILL

    For 2GB you need to go with that Kingston HyperX memory but it's special order;
    http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=29774&vpn=KHX5300S2LLK2/4G&manufacture=Kingston

    IMO get the OCZ deal 4GB for $79.99. It's good stuff and a matched pair;
    http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=24614&vpn=OCZ2MV6674GK&manufacture=OCZ Technology

    The PC-64000CL5 models at the same price might have tighter timing in PC-5300 mode, but no telling without checking;
    http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=25350&vpn=OCZ2M8004GK&manufacture=OCZ Technology

    It might be worth trying for the same price, but only worth trying if local IMO (as returning memory is quick and easy if you have a local dist, but not vial mail with return shipping etc).

    As for lowering the timings, yes there is the SPD-Z utility, but as always be careful, and I still haven't heard of a change to the 64bit limitation;
    http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?p=228633#post228633
    http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=1696

    I'm not sure about the level of DDR2 SODIMM support, I used the old SPDtool on the DDR modules I used to run in the Gateway, but not sure about the updated version with DDR2.