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    Where are the high res displays?

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by Razor2, Feb 4, 2010.

  1. Razor2

    Razor2 Notebook Deity

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    I'm looking around for a new notebook and noticed that almost all 15" and 16" have only 1366x768 screen.

    Is any other manufacturer other than Dell currently offering them on new notebooks?
     
  2. Fintan

    Fintan Notebook Consultant

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    Pitabred Linux geek con rat flail!

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    HP Envy in my sig has a 1920x1080 display. I think HP is starting to ship some of the higher-res displays over the pond.
     
  4. sgogeta4

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    Most medium to higher end laptops have high resolution options.
     
  5. Melody

    Melody How's It Made Addict

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    Yup, higher resolutions is a premium nowadays so you'd have to look at customizable machines or higher end laptops to get higher resolutions.
     
  6. sean473

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    I can tell u a few of the back of my hand... ASUS G51J , ASUS G73, Dell Studio 17, Sager NP8690 , Sager NP8790...Basically ur looking for 15-17 inch for full HD res... and at least USD $1500 starting price...
     
  7. ArtificialSweetener

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    Nobody wants high resolutions displays on a 15" because the DPI is too high causing eye strain for most people and zooming in makes you loose native resolution which = fail.
     
  8. Judicator

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    A lot depends on your definition of "high" resolution as well. I think the OP is only looking for something like 1600x900 (judging from his sig) and not necessarily a full 1920x1080.
     
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    Even 1600*900 isn't exactly as widespread as its lower resolution brother. Fact is, higher resolutions have become a premium in the past years(they didn't use to be) because manufacturers want to cut costs.

    But yes, it depends on your definition of "high res". Technically, 720p is considered "high definition" which for some people equates to "high resolution" soooo :rolleyes:
     
  10. Fintan

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    Manufacturers keeps throwing marketing bs at us yes.
    720p was until recently called "HD-Ready", now simply "HD".
    1080p has been upgraded from "HD" to "Full HD".
    Haven't been in the market for TVs recently, maybe the shift has occured there too.

    When you need real estate on your screen (for example Lightroom with all the toolbars) it was really uncomfortable with 1366x768. Happy to have 1920x1080 now.

    Reading here and there, my observation is that Full HD is more common in Europe than in the Americas. Probably something to do with exchange rates and more common discounting in US.
     
  11. dazz87

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    I have a 15" with a resolutions of 1680 x 1050 no issue here with the DPI. Will never go back to anything lower then 1680 x 1050 on a 15"
     
  12. yejun

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    15" thinkpad has FHD display as well.
     
  13. Melody

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    The whole term "HD" and "FullHD" is really just a marketing gimmick. Screens with resolutions surpassing(or nearing in the case of 1680*1050) the so-called "FullHD" resolutions have existed for a llooonnnggg time.
     
  14. funky monk

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    I get confused about screen terms too, to me only 1080p should be called "HD" seeing as 720p is pretty much the same as bog standard 1280x1024 in terms of actual useable area which is pretty lame.
     
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    I think people who say this do not have high resolution screens. My screen is only 1680x1050 and zooming 150% results in much cleaner crisper type and images than if I actually had a 1440x900 or lower resolution screen . I don't get the "zooming is lower res thing".

    Zooming to fill the screen for scale is not the same as having a lower resolution screen.
    Here is a screenshot of 1680x1050 zoomed to 150%
    [​IMG][/URL][/IMG]
     
  16. Purlpo

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    I have a WUXGA (1920-1200) screen, and so far no eye strain.

    To the OP: Try to look for performance laptop or even premium ones. Gaming laptops also usually come with high-res screens.
     
  17. thinkpad knows best

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    How is 720p "HD-Ready"? It never can be FULL HD because 720p is it's native resolution.. and displays are manufactured in number of pixels, you can't get a res higher than your display supports, and HD Ready crap sounds like you can "upgrade" to HD just like that, so what is 480p? 720p ready? No because it never can go higher. Sure, technically using their logic, my WUXGA 15.4" is 1200p ready, 1600p ready, 1500p ready, 450p ready, 670p ready, 780p ready, 1080p ready.... I'd really lke to know how many laborious sweaty man hours go into making a display READY FOR HD! Not.
     
  18. VZX

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    Most G51 series has 1920x1080, HP Envy 15 have 1920x1080
    Those 2 (more... actually) are the smallest laptops capable of pulling that resolution on their class.
     
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    I'm using a 1920x1080 15.6" Envy now ;) Setting the DPI to 110% makes text the right size, but it's not enough of a jump up to make apps that don't pay attention to DPI flake out too much.
     
  20. pitz

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    The higher res screens are out there. But not typically on 'consumer' models. You'll need to look at the better quality/more expensive 'business' models typically.

    I suspect one of the reasons they don't show up on the 'consumer' laptops is that many people, like the above poster, really don't know how to adjust the dpi setting, complain, etc. And that, its hard to move a laptop for an extra couple hundred bucks (the extra cost of the better screen) when people are shopping for something cheap.
     
  21. KLF

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    HD Ready means display can show HD video, like Blueray movies at 720p (today usually 16:9 1366x768)
    FULL HD means just 1080p = 16:9 1920x1080 resolution.

    The other option is SD, 4:3 720×576 resolution. Used in DVD movies / TV broadcasts (small variations depending on many factors).

    They are marketing terms from TV world.
     
  22. funky monk

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    I think where the term "HD ready" came from is the fact that propper 1080p broadcasts don't exist yet and most "HD" broadcasts are still 720p since they lack the propper bandwidth, iirc you can get almost 1080p broadcasts but they're interlaced so you actually get a 30hz effective refresh rate rather then the 60 that 1080p promises (they call this 1080i). Given the choice, at the moment I'd rather have 720p than 30hz 1080i
     
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    hd-tv is 720p. xbox 360 is 720p.
    botch considered hd.

    hd ready in the first place ment being able to plugin a hdmi cable and DISPLAY any content. older tv's could not show 720p or 1080p. any hd ready display can at least DISPLAY those things.

    on the pc, that is not that much of an issue, but normally, a 720p screen can't display 1080p as well. if it's "hd ready", it can. downscaled, of course, but it can handle the input.
     
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    I wouldn't recommend both these laptops... G51 runs hot like an oven and even hotter than my Dv5t oven.... while the envy has no optical drive... which is a necessacity in such an expensive laptop...
     
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    ^ Sean check out the details on the new G%! released yesterday...people running them are showing waayyy cooler numbers compared to the earlier versions.
    Theres a lot of power in that laptop!
     
  26. timesquaredesi

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    i agree with everyone here - the low resolutions are typically on the lower end side of laptops. the higher end you go, the more media-centric the machines are, the higher the resolutions are.

    you will find tons of laptops that support 1080p, 1080i and all that crap with blue ray players. if you (or anyone else) can afford a $25 blue ray movie, that's another issue :D
     
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    Don't you mean G51? And the only reason it's cooler is because it uses a slightly less powerful GPU, on a smaller manufacturing process, which also reduces heat output and reduces power consumption.
     
  28. Pitabred

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    A USB optical drive is $50 for the Envy (which is not really that expensive of a machine in the first place, not when you start comparing the base performance of the machine to the money). Really... how often do you actually use your optical drive? I almost never do... even when I had one in my machine I'd rip images to the hard drive. It's just extra weight and space in the machine that doesn't need to be there, and better served by a massive cooling system and speedy components ;) Really... do you own either system? Have you used either? Just because it's not right for you doesn't mean it's not right for others.
     
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    Could u show me from where have the temps decreased?

    For me i really need an optical drive everyday... I usually need it for computer games as i only have a few games on steam which don't need ur hard drive to run.... also i burn CD's and DVD's often...

    As far as the envy goes , it tries to be like a mac book but having no optical drive causes it to loose out IMO so that's why i would buy a macbook over envy...
     
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    Depends on whether you play games on official servers or not. I like playing stuff like Civ4 and so on, and I just crack my copy. I own the game (of course), but I don't want to carry all of my discs with me. If I'm at a place where I have my discs, it's a place where I can plug in an optical drive.
     
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    Well cracking is illegal so i don't do that.
     
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    Sony Vaio F and I think E both offer resolution higher than 1366x768 res.