Where do all of these ES Cpus come from?

I'm curious as to where all of these ES cpus are coming from. I know they are from china, but how did they get them in such volume?
I mean, just look at their stock photo:


I'm hearing that they pay only 5$ a processor? How is this even possible? If that's their invoice, then they are making a KILLING off ebay. How is it even possible?

 

.. no ideal about $5 per Chip, and thats a pile of Processors hill..
Wonders where they get it too~

 

It's probably a story too far off from this one...

 

Your image isn't showing up for me OP.

 

A quick screenie.

 

First, I'd have to ask how you know for certain that those are ES chips? They're typically stamped "Intel Confidential" or something similar.

 

1. All of those CPUS have an ES s-Spec.
2. That seller only sells ES cpus. I would love to grab a 940XM for 5$. I'd buy a ticket to china just to buy a tray of them.

Laptop cpus are no longer stamped intel confidential.

 

That's crazy, buying for $5 and selling for $500, can't be right (if it is, sign me up).

 

read here:
Tech ARP - Why You Should AVOID Intel Core 2 Engineering Samples Rev. 4.1

scroll down to update @ december 2008

they are paying on average only 5.75 USD per processor.

 

These are real intel CPU's. That was something completely different and purely a scam.

There are lots of things that article is saying that they are flat out making up or being real stupid about. Also they said that there was one lot of 300 cpus where the average price is USD was 5.75 and we and they know nothing else, so don't assume anything from that.

 

Why this article is kind of crap for us here at NBR.

Makes it seem like people are after these chips because they think they are better than regular ones, when in fact people are after them because they are so much cheaper. Setting up a bit of straw man argument here.

Yes, this is true. High availability, and it finally alludes to their most appealing aspect, their cost.

Who cares? That is NOT why people want them.

Who cares? Again, that is NOT why people want them.

Defective goods? Yeah, ok.... So the entire first section is completely irrelevant because it argues against a belief about ES chips that nobody has, and then ends in a very strong statement that we have to wait a while to hear a half-assed explanation for.

Maybe this was true at some point, I don't know, but it is definitely not true today.

Okay, now this has a lot of relevance to us here on NBR. True, they are not for sale. While I, like anybody else here, can't say for sure where these processors came from, I can be fairly certain that these are from the various motherboard manufacturers and designers in China. These chips are sent to them to test out their hardware. It is true that they remain Intel's legal property. The last part is dumb because anyone who buys an OEM processor on ebay is for sure not going to be under an Intel warranty, so who would actually be stupid enough to send it in? But also that last line is inaccurate, as I will explain below.

Ooh, stolen property? Uh oh. Actually, there are no legal risks. Intel has never done anything to anyone purchasing an ES cpu. You are far safer buying an ES CPU than pirating software or media. First of all, like I said, Intel has never done anything to a consumer who they knew one. Second of all, you can say it was sold as an OEM processor from some homeless guy on the street or whoever you want, and that you didn't know. Thirdly, the most they have ever done is ask where it came from. Lastly, the worst the law could do to you is take the cpu away from you and give it back to Intel. But then again you would have had to tell them about it in the first place!

"Incredible stresses," "Inevitably damaged?" And the author knows that how? This is all just baloney trying to scare you. If these processors were sent to manufacturers to test hardware, they would not universally be stress tested to failure. They would be there to make sure the hardware operates at all, and under predicted use conditions. "The damage may be relatively unnoticeable, as in minor logic units." Come on, he is talking out of his . And even if you do get one that doesn't work right, paypal buyer protection will protect you. I don't have a lot of faith in Ebay or Paypal, but I do have lots of faith that paypal will side with the buyer unless there is incontrovertible proof to the contrary, as if there would ever be any.

Unfortunate. Luckily, we here at NBR know we are buying ES processors.

No reason to get excited about this, even if it is 100% accurate, as we know nothing else about it. $5.70 per 65nm ES desktop single core Celeron in a lot of 300 in Shenzhen, doesn't sound too absurd to me.

 

Most ES are from mobo/mem manufacturer to their testers.

 

LOL!! Hes so happy about it!! if he didnt get it he would be sad because then he couldnt tell about all his awesome stuffffff



i bet i can find some ES cpus on alibaba for 5.70 with minimum order qty 300... lets see...

 

We had this discussion before here on the forum and Soviet Sunrise explained very well what are the differences. I don't have the time to search up his post. I have also experienced with quite a few OEM and ES CPUs. OEMs are better, they run a bit cooler and more stable than ES, but by no means are ES CPUs defective parts. If you are on a budget and you don't want to shell 1000 USD on an Extreme CPU, then an ES version is a reasonable option.

 

Can you find that thread for me please?