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    Where to find SO-DIMM Heatsink?

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by SMGJohn, Jul 5, 2016.

  1. SMGJohn

    SMGJohn Notebook Evangelist

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    Hello, I am currently trying to pimp out my Clevo P150EM, going as far as getting custom made copper backplates for insane cooling capabilities and placing memory coolers on everything that generates heat.
    However there is one place I cannot fit these chunky memory coolers, the SO-DIMM memory I have.

    Currently I got 4 x Corsair Vengeance 8GB DDR3L 1600Mhz C9 SO-DIMM memory installed counting up to a total of 32GB running in 1600Mhz.
    Obviously, this generates heat less than regular DDR3 but still it can be felt when the memory is being used a lot, this overall increases the motherboard temperature and I would like to reduce this.
    I have searched all over the internet for SO-DIMM heatsink and I found a bunch of examples but I cannot find them for sale anywhere.
    MemoryPack SO-DIMM Heatsinks
    Zeppelin Xtra SO-DIMM Heatsink
    Virtium Technology SO-DIMM Heatsink

    There are also a lot of SO-DIMM memory which already contains SO-DIMM heatsinks in the package but these are preplaced and its pretty expensive to buy four sticks of DDR3 memory just for the heatsinks.

    If anyone has any idea where you can purchase these preferably shipping to worldwide or Europe, please leave a replay it would be much grateful for me and many others who struggle to find SO-DIMM heatsinks because yes, SO-DIMM does generate heat and I got two of them under my keyboard, I feel the heat in the area very often after long session in Premiere Pro or when gaming.
     
  2. Starlight5

    Starlight5 Yes, I'm a cat. What else is there to say, really?

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    @SMGJohn you could simply cut desktop RAM heatsinks in half, and voila.
     
  3. SMGJohn

    SMGJohn Notebook Evangelist

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    I could, but you forgot the clearance between the SO-DIMM ram is in the millimeteres not centimetres so I need very THIN SO-DIMM heatsinks, this is why there are special ones made for SO-DIMM.
    But everywhere I look they are no longer available or sold out.

    I had the idea to cut a full size DDR3 heatsink in half, but upon further inspections, all of them are just over the limit
     
  4. Mobius 1

    Mobius 1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    you don't need one
     
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    Starlight5 Yes, I'm a cat. What else is there to say, really?

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    @SMGJohn clearance depends on slot location. Anyway, as @Mobius 1 rightfully pointed out, you don't need it - other than to show off, it's just a gimmick.
     
  6. SMGJohn

    SMGJohn Notebook Evangelist

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    Really? Why? My memory rates 50 degrees and up to 70 when the motherboard starts heating up, if you have any tests that I could look at that would be more than welcome or anyone who tried to cool their ram using copper or aluminium material
     
  7. Mobius 1

    Mobius 1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    they're rated that temperature

    if you're still unsure, find a piece of metal and make a bend to accomodate the ram chip, then use some K5 pro thermal paste/pad hybrid to conduct heat
     
  8. SMGJohn

    SMGJohn Notebook Evangelist

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    I just want to lower the temperature, the CPU is rated at 105 degrees, does not mean I should run it at that temperature.
    The problems start in the hot days, the memory helps heating up the other components, this is why I ask anyone who may know where they still sell SO-DIMM heatsinks so I can contain that heat more easily.
     
  9. Mobius 1

    Mobius 1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Heatsink doesn't contain heat, it dissipates heat to the surrounding environment
     
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    You'll need some double sided thermal tape and thin copper sheet. You really shouldn't need them though. How are you measuring the temperature? It's not uncommon for them to run 50-60C and slightly higher under load. Especially in a laptop where they're stacked on top of each other. Plus a heat spreader won't help a whole lot without active cooling. Why don't you email that company from that Youtube video in one of your links?
     
  11. SMGJohn

    SMGJohn Notebook Evangelist

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    I tried contacting multiple websites, I know it wont do miracles but its better than nothing, I do have the laptop sitting on a notebook cooler from CoolerMaster so it definitely does get air.
    But I have slapped on copper heatsinks on my mSSD and it used to do 70 degrees on full load, now it only does max 60, that is a 10 degrees difference.
    Very thing copper cooling plates too with a simple thermal pad underneath, I am convinced I can at least shave of 5 degrees of my ram, call me crazy but I rather try than not.

    The problem with these DDR So-Dimm heatsinks is that they are all sold out everywhere or no longer available. My reason for creating this thread is to ask if anyone know where I could possibly find them, I know they are out there its just a question of where.
     
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    zziplex Notebook Consultant

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    forget it.... I believe without airflow around...you are just taking the risk to create a short....
    if you want that .... forget a notebook... go for a desktop... ;)
     
  13. SMGJohn

    SMGJohn Notebook Evangelist

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    Does not explain why I managed to shave off a monstrous 20 degrees off my mSSD my slapping on copper coolers.
    _7060012 [1,0MP - 2;3].jpg _7060013 [1,0MP - 2;3].jpg _7060019 [1,0MP - 2;3].jpg
     
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    zziplex Notebook Consultant

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    LOL...
    I use thermal silicon pads, I can take them off if I wanted to, but I left the sticker on cause of warranty, no harm done
     
  16. Mobius 1

    Mobius 1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    because ssds do need active cooling

    ram on the other hand, don't, except if you're pumping a lot of volts through them
     
  17. Papusan

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    Lower temp is preferable anyway. Anything that helps is an advantage, especially if you are an overclocker and push all to the maximum limits :D
     
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    RAM modules don't have enough airflow around to make those heatsinks useful. Unless you find out another metal surface close to it which is long so could dissipate heat to other place so you could build a thermal bridge to it in addition to those heatsinks it won't be useful.
     
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    Although PCH chips are on the opposite side of the motherboard in relation to use of a mod U3 cooler... The U3 helps in bringing down the temp on PCH. Heatsink on ram will functioning exactly as heatsink on PCH. If your bottom lid have holes.
     
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    Everythin helps, but efficient dissipation of heat is something else...
     
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    With massive turbulent air circulation in the cabinet which is changed with new air because of a cooler, will help. If a PCH chips can be cooled down 10-15 degrees in a almost locked chassis with help of a cooler... Why not ram with attached heatsink?
     
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    lol without increasing airflow over those fins, that temperature drop is only temporary. Both the copper heatsink and the surrounding air has a saturation point in terms of how much heat they can hold.
    You're just shifting the heating curve so that it'll reach the saturation point later.

    EDIT: Also, the whole "cooler is better" thing isn't particularly true either, there is a point of diminishing return. Everything has an acceptable range in which it operates, which is specified by the manufacturer (because they have done their homework and ran FMEA). If you're well below Tmax, cooling it down further isn't really worthwhile in the rated lifespan of the product. Most semiconductors can be safely run in the 70C range without significant repercussions.
     
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    Actually those heatsinks could make data retention worse on your ssd :p
     
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    Sorry to bump an old thread but I'm also looking for some sodimm ram heat spreaders (TBH if not only for looks). Did you ever find where to buy these?? Also I might steal you idea of heat sinking the SSD. Krowe may very well be right about the diminishing returns on lifespan related to temperature but lower temps give me a warm and fuzzy feeling inside...
     
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    Heat spreaders on sodimms tend to reduce airflow and increase temperatures.
     
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    Really how much? have you tested this or point me to some data? like I said even just for aesthetics. The Kingston sodimm hyperX modules used to have heat spreaders. I kind of think Kingston would not do something that would cost more and cause more RMA. I know no one see's them but I know what they look like.

    EDIT:
    This reads kinda arrogant but I don't mean it that way I actually want to know how bad it would be

    \/ This thread actuall have me the idea I like the thermal probe monitoring idea as well
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/ddr3-so-dimm-sticks-with-thermal-monitoring.796427/page-2

    Also I might also use these sodimms in a itx build with a 4710mq I have kicking around so airflow in that case would be active
    http://www.asrock.com/ipc/overview.asp?Model=IMB-180

    Pure sex

    ram.jpg ram2.jpg
     
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    I don't want to take away from your question, but out of curiosity, how would aesthetics come into play with your laptop's memory?
     
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    No sadly there is no such thing, if anything they improve the data retention because the mSSD is abused less duo to lower temperatures, they also help keeping it cooler than usual on off-session.
    Remember that a SSD with NAND flash will probably last up to 10 years powered off in a cool place, if you throw it in a freezer they last even longer, a common practise back in the days when SSD's were utterly **** on data retention and required power on all the time.
    Unless you meant there be magnetic interference, they are non-magnetic, I always test them beforehand.
     
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    It seems the only one I can find these days are ones which already have heatsinks on them, never a heatsink for SO-DIMM separated.
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Komputerba...id=1476114069&sr=8-2&keywords=sodimm+heatsink

    I do remember that DDR2 SO-DIMM were hotter than DDR3 SO-DIMM so I went to test it and yes I was right, DDR2 SO-DIMM does indeed get a lot hotter than DDR3 SO-DIMM.
    When while it is true that inside a laptop specially thin ones there is very little airflow however what a lot of people here do not quite understand is the thermal physics behind the use of fanless cooling heatsinks.
    The reason is because the larger the area the heat can spread on, the more time is given for the heat to dissipate because the area is much larger to heat up compared to a non-heatsink DDR3 SO-DIMM ram stick, effectively speaking there will be a change. The heat builds up anyway to say that heatsinks will build up more heat is silly when the area is much larger and it is better to have the heat spread on a copper plate than to warm the air around the ram sticks which will actually heat it up everything around them, this is noticeable to me when I use a keyboard and it is preferable to have the heat controlled in a smaller area than to have it spread out as warm air all over my motherboard.

    However you are out of luck, I have tried contact the ones who make ram SO-DIMM heatsinks, they wont answer then I tried to contact various ram manufacturers, all of them disconnected those designs and it seems if you want DDR3 SO-DIMM with heatsinks you either got to buy the ones who have them or buy razer thin copper plates and glue them on the sticks, I am not gluing a damn thing, alternatively you can get razer thin silicon pads although those are pretty rare and really expensive considering the cutting technique to get them that thin.
     
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    Man if you would have read what I put above.......

    "I know what they look like."
    ---------------> when in my laptop

    "Also I might also use these sodimms in a itx build with a 4710mq I have kicking around so airflow in that case would be active"
    --------------->therefore would be seen inside my itx case through the giant window in the side
     
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    Thanks for the answer and I agree...Also I have a bachelor of science with a major in physics and a minor in math and I totally agree with your assessment more surface area to radiate the heat from the better hence why heat sinks always have fins to increase surface area in contact with air and not necessarily just a big block of material. That is why I don't necessarily believe temps would increase without some sort of empirical data. Also as Papusan pointed out.....

    ^this was a actual measurement not just some opinion
     
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    OK. So you wish for the aesthetics part because the ITX mobo's case has a see-thru pane. Was trying to figure out where you'd see it. Thanks for the clarification.
     
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