Which Ram Manufacturer?

Dear all,
Can anyone give me an advice on what ram manufacturer to use: kingstone, corsair ... etc? What is the difference and which one is the best?



Thx in advance.

 

The cheapest one is the best.

 

Yup cheapest as long as its still a "brand"

 

Why do kingstone and corsair charge the premium then. Is it really the brand-related issue only?

 

Actually Kingston is one of the cheapest(In my country anyway but i know it is still cheap in other countries)

 

Yeah they just bade the ram with there name for the most part. They dont make the IC's

 

I found kingston to be the cheapest i could get a hold of

 

Crucial has given me the least amount of compatibility trouble. AMD notebooks can be picky about memory, though by now SODIMM makers have probably figured out that they need to test against AMD's more demanding integrated memory controller. Crucial got it right the first time so I've stuck with them ever since.

 

I'd recommend memory with heat spreader.
Brand does not matter at all

 

Objection. I think that's a dumb idea. Memory heat spreaders are only useful if you're really pushing your memory, particularly in the case of desktop overclocking. Even then it's still a bit of a gimmick and I've never even heard of anyone overclocking laptop memory.

Plus it's hard to find laptop memory with heat spreaders. The manufacturers know you don't need it and the typical selection reflects that. Even the generally more expensive "quality" instances of laptop memory, like non-value Corsair and Crucial DIMMS don't have spreaders.

 

Memory is getting VERY hot without over-clocking.

 

Memory and wireless cards get hot because there is no dedicated cooling solution for memory or wireless cards. Care to guess why? Largely because it doesn't need it. Even with a heat spreader, if there is no where for the hot air to go, the memory won't cool down; heat sinks only aid cooling if there some sort of air movement, otherwise the benefits are very, very small.

That hot air isn't going anywhere fast until laptop memory gets it's own active cooling. Which it won't. Like CPUs and GPUs we're getting faster and cooler running memory with each generation; there has never been the need for active notebook memory cooling and I doubt there will be in the future.

 

Right, so since RAM does not have active cooling why not to help it a little with spreaders?
After all it was my recommendation only and you do not have to follow it

BTW laptop memory with spreaders is not so rare as you think

 

And Commander is just pointing out thinks it is rather useless. And well I don't disagree. You throw your opinion out someone else throws theirs out, no issue I think? Not that uncommon? I have only come across 1. So how many have you come across?

If you OC by increasing FSB it OC the RAM also? So I guess I have OC my RAM for what it is worth.

 

Heat spreaders are a gimmick to tweak the customer to buy your RAM. Your RAM should not be overheating, period. If your RAM is ever even close to overheating, there's a problem with the cooling system of your laptop, and you need to get that fixed, not buy gimmicky "heat spreader" RAM.

 

I do not like fruitless disputs.
The only reason of my reply to know why heat spreaders are gimmicky.
Please enlighten me

 

The points have been clearly made already.

1. Head spreaders/sinks don't do anything without an active cooler. RAM has no active cooler.

2. Your RAM should not overheat in the first place. If it does, you have defective RAM or a broken cooling system.

3. RAM works just fine without heat spreaders. This fact alone shows you that heat spreaders are absolutely not necessary.

Benchmarks: http://www.btxformfactor.com/item/39/3.php

 

heatspreaders actually tend to raise the overall heat of memory in the notebook since it traps the heat as compared to memory without them. google it, there are at least 2 reviews that prove this.

 

That sounds likely. In mine I have one laying on the other so can't see advantage of spreading more heat faster from lower to upper?

 

I have always found heat spreaders to be just a gimmick. Not so much as to fool you into thinking it cools better. I think its just there to make the ram look pretty and hopefully coarse you into buying it. It's also nice to handle the ram with a heat spreader so you do not have to even worry about touching the ICs with you skin that contains oil and things.

The idea of a heat spreader is the same for all things, if you can increase the surface area of the object you can increase its native cooling ability (active cooler or not, passive works too as its still in contact with the surrounding air just that air may not be getting replaced with cooler air as much as you would like, still tho its probably cooler than the ram itself or your system would lock up)

The problem is that I have yet to see any ram heatsinks that are really attached in a way to let them work properly, if you think of how a cpu or gpu heatsink works where it has to be super flush and held together with alot of pressure and a thermal compound, where does RAM heatsinks inherit any of these elements? It doesn't. Plus ram is designed to run very hot with no ill effects. You would be very unsmart to try to cool it by say adding it to a water cooling loop with your cpu and gpu on it because you would just raise the temp of your water for no reason and hurt your cpu/gpu. Pointing a fan at the ram is just fine especially if your overclocking because then the ram can get into temp ranges too high for normal operation.

I have said this more than once and I really should write a guide/sticky on it. All ram for the most part is equal. The only thing that differs between main brands in most cases (and ill cut out all the details since this is a post and not a guide) is the A - Price B - Warranty C- Testing

Find the ram that has the best combination of A, B, & C and do not worry about brand name.

 

USMC you are correct but must emphasize a couple of things you did not. They are made of materials who's thermal properties allow them to more readily accept heat and dissipate it. Unlike a heat sink which in it's passive capacity absorbs and moves the heat away from the component (CPU/GPU) in addition to it's active capacity, airflow cooling. Heat spreader does not really take it anywhere, it surrounds the RAM, and does not have the active component so don't see much place for effectiveness especially with the lack well designed contact you mention.

And USMC here is a link to my guide attempt and what I thought in November. Kind stopped and never polished it up.

 

Expensive RAM for desktops usually has a bit higher OC limit, wich is completely irrelevant to the laptop world. Consequently, as it was said before, the cheaper the better =))