So which one should i go with ?
Thanks!
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Commander Wolf can i haz broadwell?
If price isn't an issue, go with the Intel. Vertex seems to be a solid drive, but the X25-M is simply that much faster. The X25-M has also been on the market for a significant amount of time, so its steady-state performance characteristics are much better known.
I do believe that some members of the T60 series have bandwidth caps on the SATA bus; you may not be able to utilize all of either drive's sequential read and write speeds, but you should still benefit from the fantastic IO performance of the X25-M. -
Darth Bane Dark Lord of the Sith
don't forget about storage. I was thinking of the intel x25-m, but I couldn't live with just 80gb. 120GB might not seem like a lot more, but it is.
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Well it's 50% more to be exact
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mullenbooger Former New York Giant
Get samsung/corsair if you don't plan on updating your laptop anytime soon since the t61 is capped at sata I speeds.
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Why is it capped ?
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There is a limited through put of the bus
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WHY ? crappy hardware or software/firmeware limitation ?
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The t61 is rather old tech.
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Commander Wolf can i haz broadwell?
Just because he's got that cap doesn't mean he shouldn't get an Intel. Like I said, he can still make use of the high IO capabilities of the X25-M AND the (relatively) high IO capabilities of the Vertex, even if he can't make use of the even higher sequential speeds. I'd still vote for Intel...
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There is a subgroup of SSD users who will only recommend Intel or drives with Samsung controllers. This group of users is who posts in the SSD thread.
I'm running a 30GB Vertex and it performs fantastically. Yes, the Intel drive is faster, but you reach a point of diminishing returns when talking about perceptible speed. -
I'd say it depends entirely on budget, if you can afford the X25-M in the GB required go for it and if not then get the Vertex. As mentioned earlier, both will have their max seq. speeds capped by the T61 but that shouldn't hamper the very noticeable performance improvement you'll notice doing day to day tasks with the SSD.
JBrightbill: CW at no point said no to the Vertex as an option, he only said if the cash was available to get the X25-M which is the correct response. He also mentioned that both the X25-M and Vertex's high IO capabilities would be beneficial in the T61. So there's no shunning of the Vertex going on here... -
Best bang for your buck is Samsung 256GB MLC SSD from Dell w/ coupon.
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When people are recommending Samsung's SSD's (Which have lower performance) over the Vertex and they actually think the Samsung performs better, that's what I'm more saying is a problem. X-25M drives are by far the best choice if you have the cash lying around; I just don't think most people need all that performance because of diminishing returns.
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You will be capped at 150MB/s, but it is not common that a drive actually sustains its maximium speed. When you start doing random read/writes or writting files that are very small (the well known 4KB issue) a faster drive will be faster.
If you really want to understand the issue, anandtech's article is one of the best every done and includes some great benchmarks and explinations comparing the Vertex and Intel drives along with other SSDs:
http://www.anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=3531
And a few pages of follow-up:
http://www.anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=3535
I know that reading 30-40 pages can be a lot if your not really into the technology, but with the cost of the drives it would be time well spent so that you can pick the drive that will be the best value for you. How you use your drive will drasticly effect which drive you should have. -
mullenbooger Former New York Giant
Thats actually a good point, i never thought of the higher speed for smaller writes and reads that are below the cap. I wonder how big of a difference in speed would be noticed in a capped system. In any case the intel and vertex are close or getting close in price to the slower corsair drive. -
ordered the x25-m....
Hope i see a crazy difference between that and my stock 120gb 5400RPM drive. -
davepermen Notebook Nobel Laureate
you should..
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Just got it. Made in freakin China.
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mullenbooger Former New York Giant
The majority of your electronics are made in asia, I wouldn't worry about it. Where do you think your t61 came from? -
I agree with mullenbooger; what isn't made in china/asia?
Is there something specifically wrong with it? I havn't heard bad things about the drive before so if there is something noticable and different from all the other ones you're intitled to a replacement.
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I just ordered a couple of the OCZ Vertex drives today; I'm pumped to see how well they perform.
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All of the Samsung SSD's should be manufactured in Korea, since most of their facilities are there.
They may be assembled in China, if they are, but Samsung makes all of their memory in their FABs in Korea
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Well i put mine in.... couldn't get the system to book.
It would keep getting stuck in the splash screen (but only half into it)
I've had this problem with my regular HD but usually a couple of reboots it will get pass that...
So maybe the MB is bad... who knows... tomorrow i'll try it on my desktop ...
And frankly i don't like chinese made stuff, i think its poor quality, they don't care about the enviorment, they'll put lead in stuff if they could get away with it.
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no one caught this ???
80 is not 50% of 120 lol
i just bought a vertex drive as Well
ill put up benchs vs my 7200 rpm 160
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Commander Wolf can i haz broadwell?
No, but 120 is 50% more than 80, which is what I believe the guy meant. -
50% of 80 GB is 40 GB. 80 + 40 = 120.
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o crap my bad lol late night just got off work ... 7am-12am my days suck
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Hey guys how much do the Intel X25-M goes for these days?
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super cheap and Intel never mix
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2003240636 50001157&name=Intel -
Commander Wolf can i haz broadwell?
They were down to like $350 on Newegg recently; that was pretty much the best price you could find anywhere. It's still at $363 right now which isn't bad at all; I'm seeing basically the same thing on eBay. Google shopping claims $343 to $631, but I can't find the $343 in their listing. -
So after replacing the MB on my T61... it finally works. but the read speed is average 75MB/sec
On the desktop it was 170MB/sec..... what gives? -
mullenbooger Former New York Giant
The speed cap of the t61 will not allow it to get 170mb/s, but it definitely should be higher than 75. Try another benchmark program, hdtune or crystaldisk -
i got the 75 figure from hdtune
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The T61 speed cap is 150MB/s. You shouldn't see anything higher then that, but there is no reason that it would be less then 150MB/s if it already reached 175MB/s.
Did you run the text in the same way? -
it reached 75... not 175.....
I did switch to comapatibility mode and now i'm getting 110MB/SEC
Weird.
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Oh FFS... *rolleyes*
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It solely depends on what you are looking for in a HDD, both manufacturer models are of good quality. If price is an issue, it can vary depending on your sources, just keep comparing prices between sellers.
Which SSD ? OCZ VERTEX 120GB or Intel x25-m 80GB for T61
Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by lowspeed, Mar 30, 2009.