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    Which Thermal Pad is better for CPU/GPU (Ryzen 5900HX/RX6800M) Laptop ASUS G513QY?

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by RomanQuadra, Dec 29, 2021.

  1. RomanQuadra

    RomanQuadra Notebook Enthusiast

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    If going the pad route for CPU/GPU, which one you would suggest:

    Coollaboratory Liquid MetalPad 3xCPU + Cleaning kit (4260157580060):
    https://www.amazon.com/Coollaborato...aboratory&qid=1635894333&sr=8-5&tag=tec06d-20


    Innovation Cooling Graphite Thermal Pad – Alternative to Thermal Paste/Grease (30 X 30 mm):
    https://www.amazon.com/Innovation-Cooling-Graphite-Thermal-Pad/dp/B07CKVW18G/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=ic+graphite+thermal+pad&qid=1640772282&sprefix=IC+grap,aps,257&sr=8-1


    IC Graphite High Compression Thermal Pad (40X40mm 5-Pack):
    https://www.amazon.com/IC-Graphite-Compression-Thermal-40X40mm/dp/B08XNYHYCH/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=ic+graphite+thermal+pad&qid=1640772291&sprefix=IC+grap,aps,257&sr=8-2

    For ASUS G513QY Laptop with Ryzen 9 5900HX / RX6800M GPU, I suspect the chamber is not flat even on CPU's side as paste performance degrades faster on CPU than on GPU, and Pad could be the answer to uneven chamber surface if I understand it right.


    Your feedback is welcomed,



    Thanks!
     
  2. Etzubasa

    Etzubasa Notebook Guru

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    I sincerely disapprove of the thermal pad solution, Noctua NT-H2 does better than Coollaboratory Liquid MetalPad.
    I have repaired hundreds of notebooks and tried countless thermal pastes and thermal pads and I can guarantee you that the results you will get will never be better than a thermal paste, and not all the best thermal pastes will fit every notebook.
     
  3. Gumwars

    Gumwars Notebook Evangelist

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    So, I've tried using the Coollaboratory product and to put it bluntly, it doesn't work on laptops. The fitment between the heatsink and die is too uneven to get good contact between the two. This is a problem that you're going to encounter with any laptop; the tolerances for something mobile need to be generous so that the motherboard doesn't snap when the unit flexes, which it does whenever you move the thing around. IC Diamond, NT-H2, MX-4, are all solid non-conductive thermal pastes. I find IC Diamond to be the best for most laptop solutions as it is very thick and doesn't suffer pump out like the more spreadable pastes.

    If you want the best in terms of thermal transfer, liquid metal is the only way to go. It's more difficult to apply and requires some preparation to the area surrounding the CPU and/or GPU, but the results are often worth the effort.
     
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    Etzubasa Notebook Guru

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    I agree but we do not know which user we are dealing with, many apply it without having an idea of what they are doing, in addition to the fact that it requires + control and maintenance compared to a traditional thermal paste.
     
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    Gumwars Notebook Evangelist

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    True. Probably worth mentioning then that with liquid metal, you can destroy your laptop if you aren't careful. Also worth mentioning that I've used it on my past two laptops, which have both been up and running for several years without any issues. I don't see myself as an elite user or anything, just patient with the application because you can, as I just mentioned, fry your laptop if you rush it.
     
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    Etzubasa Notebook Guru

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    Ho usato il rivestimento conforme al silicone di sostanze chimiche MG per proteggere i piccoli pezzi attorno al vga e poi ho applicato un nastro kapton...
    Specifiche:
    E ho applicato un pad di rame sulla vga per non danneggiare il dissipatore:
    metallo liquido + pad in rame + grasso phobya nano extreme + dissipatore di calore non originale.


    ora guarda questo video ne parla bene ma alla fine non è un lavoro fatto a dovere, se il metallo liquido potrebbe traboccare e toccare i pezzettini intorno a vga cosa accadrebbe?

     

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    I run the Graphite pads on my server(s) and recently switched to one on my laptop as well.

    8700K server typically sat at 78F idle and got up to maybe 130-140F under load while processing video files.
    12700K server rebuild sits lower ~75F idle / 130F under load

    9750H laptop cpu/gpu idle desktop ~40C / chrome open w/ multiple tabs ~60C / under full load CPU @ 80C / GPU @ 60-70C

    While these might not be the most impressive numbers they're consistent and for me consistency means longevity when it comes to component flex due to temp fluctuations. Think of it like roads that experience winter conditions. The more temp fluctuation occurs the more potholes you end up with. Over time the more flex you have in your components due to the temp swings the weaker they become like bending a paperclip over and over.

    The 5 for $15 is a deal as the 2 pack is the same price.
     
  8. rahasyavadi

    rahasyavadi Notebook Consultant

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    I notice that the 5-pack is of non-reusable ones whereas the 2-pack is of reusable ones--both packs being from the same company.
     
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    Have you tried the LM pads vs Graphnite pads? also how temps with these pads versus a good paste like SYY/Krynout?
     
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    Have you tried the LM pads vs Graphnite pads? also how temps with these pads versus a good paste like SYY/Krynout?
     
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    @ RomanQuadra

    I've tried many different solutions over the years and got sick of cleaning up pastes each time for a new one. There's plenty of charts on how they should react to heat over time and plenty of results posted around here.

    I wanted something that works sufficiently and doesn't need to be reapplied every 6-12 months i.e. every paste.

    Some pastes fail miserably within days and others gradually degrade over time. LM is a bit too dicey for my liking after investigating it as an option. The graphite solution works for what I need it to do w/o the fuss of paste. It's not the coldest option but, it's probably one of the easiest to insert and forget about.

    Pretty much every option for cooling runs about $10. Personally running these for a couple of years on a desktop CPU, not having any issues, and consistent temps says enough for me to be comfortable with them protecting me from meltdown.

    It all comes down to preference / use though. No one solution is going to be 100% for every use.
     
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    You seem to not have listed the Thermal Grizzly Carbonaut pad.
    It is serving me quite well in my laptop (on top of a 1080GTX and an Intel 9700F) as well as in my handheld (One-Netbook OneXPlayer).

    The pad did increase temps slightly by about 1°C to 2°C on the 9700F, when compared with pastes that I had used previously.
    However, I wanted a solution that remains consistent for a long period of time, as pastes had a tendency of being pumped out on my device.
    The Carbonaut pad has solved that issue very nicely for me.