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    Which WiFi card should I choose for the Nyx 1712 (Clevo P170EM) from Mythlogic?

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by dpas2012, Jan 21, 2013.

  1. dpas2012

    dpas2012 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hello,
    I am looking to buy a Mythlogic Nyx 1712 (based on the Clevo P170EM barebone) and I am wanting to choose a suitable wireless card/NIC to use. These are the options that are on the Mythlogic site:
    Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6235 2*2 802.11 a/g/n + Bluetooth V4.0 350MB Total Bandwidth +$0.00
    KILLER WirelessN 1202 - The best gaming, HD video and audio experience Winter Freebie
    Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 3*3 802.11 a/g/n 450MB Total Bandwidth +$15.00
    KILLER WirelessN 1103 - The ultimate wireless gaming HD video experience Winter Sale +$15.00
    It will use the connection streaming from my Westell 7500 router that Verizon gave to my mother and I when we connected to them. However, my friend Justin said to not get the Killer card, as he said that I would need a better ISP and a better router to connect with. Also he stated that I would need an Ethernet cable and that there is software akin to the Killer card that I can download. I am planning to use this laptop for BF3 multiplayer and I preferably want to have as low a ping/latency rate as possible. I tried to find a way to find out the specs of the Westell 7500, but to no avail. However, I ran a test on speedtest.net to show you at least what my connection speeds are:
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    With that in hand, two questions I ask are:
    1. Which wireless card would best suit me for BF3 multiplayer?
    2. Do I need to change my current router to a new one?

    Thanks!
     
  2. Zenoru

    Zenoru Notebook Consultant

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    Since you want responsive multiplayer gaming, I'd suggest one of the Killer cards.

    The Killer 1202 is 2x2 (300 Mbps) and has Bluetooth.
    The Killer 1103 is 3x3 (450 Mbps) but no Bluetooth.

    You'd need a dual band router if you want to take full advantage of these cards (300 Mbps router for the 1202, and 450 Mbps router for the 1103), though either way they should outperform the other choices.
     
  3. tilleroftheearth

    tilleroftheearth Wisdom listens quietly...

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    No matter which router you get, your internet connection won't change... (though the responsiveness might).

    The 'Killer' cards are good - but if you're playing in the same room (or other side of the wall) as the router is in anyway? - save your money.

    Buy the Intel.

    And if you really want the fastest experience possible: plug in.



    Good luck.
     
  4. dpas2012

    dpas2012 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Yes that's what Josh over at Mythlogic said, to get the Netgear N750 for the 1202 or the N900 for the 1103.
     
  5. dpas2012

    dpas2012 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I am considering getting that too, but I want to keep ALL options on the table. I am in my room right now, and the router is out the door and to the left into the next room, near the entrance of it. It is connected to one of 2 (visible) jacks that is in this apartment. The speedtest.net image showed what connection I am getting, but whenever I download stuff, it is getting 200-300 Kbps. I am reading that is due to either throttling or the speeds being capped at 1/10th of the speed listed on that image. Mom is currently paying about $120-150 on both phone and Internet (the Internet being a 1.1-3 Mbps DSL connection), and Justin recommended I switch to Cox. However, we've had several friends complain about increased charges and sloppy service and pop-up costs that weren't listed on the bill. What could I do to increase the speed to match that 1.1-3 Mbps?
     
  6. misterhobbs

    misterhobbs Notebook Evangelist

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    I was getting 25 Mbps with Cox when I lived in Pensacola for about $45/month. I don't know if that deal is around but either way, I've had good experiences with Cox. They've treated me much better than Comcast.

    As far as the different choices between wireless cards, you need to ask yourself how much are you going to use bluetooth and what router are you planning on using. Either way you are making an excellent choice with Mythlogic. They've never steered me wrong and have provided excellent support with whatever you choose.
     
  7. tilleroftheearth

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    I can't recommend for you one service provider over another, but do note that the capability you (or your mom) pays for is not a guarantee of how each specific website will perform (i.e. - everyone is 'independent' of everything else).

    In my experience though: a dedicated DSL line (high speed, of course) outperforms, on a consistency basis, anything that is cable based. Even though the cable based service may be up to 3 or more times faster at certain times (or websites) vs. the dedicated DSL service. Myself; I don't care to brag about a peak achievement or download 'score' - I care about getting the level of performance I'm paying for regardless of the time of day and/or how many other users are 'sharing' the local internet connection at any given time.

    I'm sure everyone has seen TV shows 'pause' and stutter for a few seconds (and up to a few minutes daily) with cable based TV. This would be unacceptable to me if the performance of the internet connection I was paying for was also that inconsistent.

    Higher peak/theoretical speeds are fine if you only use your internet connection when the possibility of hitting those ideals are at the greatest. But consistency (or 'balance', if you will), is what a fee based service should provide. That would be my criteria for choosing an isp.

    And once that consistency level is achieved; if you are not happy with the level of performance a certain 'package' offers - go up one level (at a higher cost, of course) until your performance needs are satisfied (vs. the $$$ required).


    Good luck.
     
  8. dpas2012

    dpas2012 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Good post. For that, you get +1 REP (I wonder if you can give 2, probably not).
     
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    Thank you! For that you get +1 rep.
     
  10. dpas2012

    dpas2012 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Now in terms of getting an Intel card, which card should it be, the 6235 or the 6300?
     
  11. tilleroftheearth

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    Do you need Bluetooth? 6235, otherwise, the 6300 for the fastest possible (3x3 antennae required for both notebook and router) wireless performance.
     
  12. dpas2012

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    IDK about BT. I consider it a bonus since I don't have BT devices personally (unless you consider the Acer Aspire One I am using right now with BT 4 one). I am just wanting a good WiFi card for BF3 MP and for web surfing.
     
  13. RMXO

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    I personally went with the 6300 due to having better range & being able to buy a cheap BT adaptor on amazon.
     
  14. dpas2012

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    I believe I will consider getting the 6235 instead.