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    Why does all desktop replacement laptops carry a battery ?

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by oresund, Feb 28, 2006.

  1. oresund

    oresund Notebook Enthusiast

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    Just imagine how much it would reduce the price on a laptop if the expensive battery was excluded. I think many people never bring their 15-17" laptops for use on the road. Those models are sold as desktop replacement and really are to big to be practical as portable.

    Of course, there should be models available with battery but if you don't use it, it's really a shame towards our environment considering the rather dangerous material found in those batteries.

    Just a thought

    Cheers
    Jens
     
  2. coriolis

    coriolis Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Somewhat true, but I guess the battery is somewhat of an UPS as well, in that sense...
     
  3. Arla

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    One issue with this (that I'm aware of) is that the power connectors to laptops seem to be rather less reliable than desktops. I've tried using my laptop without the battery and quite often found that the lead gets accidentally unplugged, or tugged slightly and doesn't quite have a good connection, so the computer powers off immediately.

    One thought though would be a much smaller battery, it's an interesting idea.
     
  4. drumfu

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    that's an interesting idea. i wonder how much the average drop in price would be if they didn't have to develop that part of the laptop. maybe a couple hundred bucks less?
     
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    Yea I guess there should be an option before you buy your laptop if you want the battery or not at all. And they can probably make some kind of cover to fill in the gap where the battery suppose to go. Kinda interesting.
     
  6. tullnd

    tullnd Notebook Evangelist

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    Just get a Mac Mini and a LCD.

    But I understand what you mean. I like my DTR with battery though. My 17" widescreen gets well over 4 hours of battery life for web browsing and such. I even get about 2.5 hours for DVD's. It's still pretty beneficial.

    Most people look at laptops as being "mobile" and independantly powered. Now that the newer processors are more efficient, even the larger machines are getting pretty good battery life. Even though I don't carry my 17" around all that much, it's nice for those times when I want to run it downstairs and sit it on my lap while watching the tube. If I'm waiting on an important email or just feel like chatting with a few friends.

    I think there isn't a big enough market willing to pay the price premium for the smaller size of these machines, without the full portability that is offered. But in time that segment might grow.
     
  7. circa86

    circa86 Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

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    this would also make having a laptop completely pointless :)

    if you plan on never moving your computer you should just get a desktop.
     
  8. flanken

    flanken Notebook Evangelist NBR Reviewer

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    Some manufacturer tried a battery-less desktop replacement a few years ago, integrating the power supply into the chassis instead. I think it might have been the ECS Desknote series. At any rate, these weren't a commercial success, but maybe someone will revive the idea with more success in the future.
     
  9. oresund

    oresund Notebook Enthusiast

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    Well I don't agree. You still have the benefit of having everything buildt in to one unit claiming less space on the table. You can also bring it with you and use it anywhere as long as there's an power outlet available. Instead of the battery, maybe the power adaptor could be buildt in to the unit.
     
  10. prissluciana

    prissluciana Notebook Consultant

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    naw, DT replacments are perfectly reasonable....i'd get one if i didn't want some amount of portability...the reason is, its easier to move that than it is your whole desktop...jsut unplug and go, which makes them GREAT for traveling(like going to visit family/friend/Lan parties/on the road) Etc etc ...

    i dont think i'll ever buy another DT because of advantages like that...though i've noticed the DT replacments have tons of heat problems, so a icepad thingy is nessisary...

    An yways back on subject...

    YES i think no bater options should be available with DT replacments....that'd so so so rock
     
  11. Smith2688

    Smith2688 Notebook Evangelist

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    The balance would be all messed up with the notebook then. Try to open the lid without the battery. From all my experience, it's rather pestering to not be able to do it with one hand.
     
  12. Darbyjack

    Darbyjack Notebook Evangelist

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    yes laptop power connectors can be unreliable, but there are now many laptops with strong connectors.

    My laptop power connecter is very strong. I have to pull hard to unplug it
     
  13. Spare Tire

    Spare Tire Notebook Evangelist

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    There used to be a concept of what they called desknotes which was a laptop with desktop components and didn't have a battery. It died out i think. There were problems with having desktop components inside such a small place, often the board would melt or i don't know what. But i could see them make desknotes with notebook components and just without the battery. A all in one package like that does make sense because even the mac mini has lots of wires and **** attached to it.
     
  14. Darbyjack

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    im sure with todays low voltage mobile CPUs, desknotes could easily make a comeback but the demand on the market isn't high enough