Will Intel Atom Valleyview be able to overcome AMD Fusion?

I know there isn't much info on this yet, but insider says this will be similar to cedar view processor plus ivy bridge graphics. If they could keep the same power consumption, this should be competent against AMD's fusion unless AMD develops new tech to make their cores use less power.

if Intel really get it done, maybe netbooks could be worth the $ assuming windows 8 doesn't hog even more resource than windows 7.

 

It really depends on how much effort Intel put into the new architecture. Bobcat absolutely crushed Atom, and AMD is ahead in the graphics department. Imo the only chance Intel has to beat AMD is with the CPU if they improved the architecture enough. Graphics wise, I don't see 4 IVB shaders keeping up with whatever GCN stuff that AMD is going to put in Jaguar.

 

http://blogs.barrons.com/techtraderdaily/2012/08/30/amd-jaguar-sensors-other-tidbits-from-hot-chips/

AMD plans on coming through with quad core Jaguar APUs so I'm sure they'll put up a good fight against whatever Intel brings to the table. Things are going to get more interesting in the ULV market & if possible we might see these trickle into the tablet & smartphone markets. At the same time I kind of doubt it because AMD has said they are not interested in those markets right now. The one & only AMD Compal tablet concept hasn't developed into anything else... yet.

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But vendors are going to put Intel into their tablets anyway.

 

but AMD's fusion still consumes more power than atom, that's why some people choose atom for the battery life and operating temperature

 

True, manufacturers will use Intel products in their products regardless. I don't think that's ever going to change. And true, AMD's Brazo's did consume more power than Atom but that didn't stop Fusion from being a success. I think AMD has the stuff to keep that success going with Jaguar.

Besides, Intel has other strong competitors in the tablet and smartphone arenas right now which should keep it on its toes anyways. AMD has its own problems to overcome.

 

Battery life, yes, operating temperature, no. Cooling on atom netbooks is bad.

 

Imagine how awesome it'll be to have quad core APUs with Llano-level graphics (I'm guestimating) in notebooks like the then dm1z or x141e with standard 1600x900 capacitive touch displays all at 18w tdp or lower, 8hr battery life & weighing no more than 3lbs.

What am I talking about? That's possible right now, with Trinity. Its just no one is capatilizing on it, those fools! Sure it isnt a quad core cpu but the capable dual core ULV Trinity is certainly twice as powerful as current Brazos even with 17w tdp & Llano-level graphics. Why the heck isn't it being done?

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It's already being done with ultrabooks. Just for some reason no manufacturer likes to use Trinity parts.

 

In before: "Laptops don't need peak processing power, and integrated graphics should only be used to play facebook games on - Intel wins again!".

 

Well, I doubt anybody is going to be using either platform for number crunching or hardcore gaming. As long as performance is "good enough", the biggest differentiators will probably be price and battery life.

 

A ULV i3 is "good enough" for almost anyone who's not a gamer but interested in the thin-and-light category; why is Atom still around again? I personally think it should be stripped down and relegated to the fanless mobile device category.

 

ULV Core-ixxxx are more expensive than Atom, by about double or more. Atom has a tiny die.

But I have a feeling that's where this entire category is heading... extremely thin and light, fanless designs that are also cheap. The only thing is that ARM accomplishes this MUCH more efficiently right now and for the foreseeable future. Seeing Windows 8 RT run seamlessly on a dual-core OMAP that is significantly less powerful than even Qualcomm's S4, the future doesn't look rosy for X86 in this section of technology.

Like I said in the other thread though, I'm very interested to see where Intel takes Atom. AMD will follow market trends but they won't have a TDP comparable solution. AMD will have to compete solely on price and GPU performance.