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    Will the Intel w/ RX Vega Chip Be Offered in 13" Laptops

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by Jorban, Feb 12, 2018.

  1. Jorban

    Jorban Notebook Enthusiast

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    I'm really excited for the Intel Chip that uses RX Vega in it. It's supposed to have gaming power somewhere in between an Nvidia Gt1050 and 1050ti from what I've heard, but in smaller form factor.

    From what's been announced so far, it's going to be on the new HP x360 15" and Dell XPS 15" due out sometime in March. But my question is: Do you think it's going to be released on 13" laptops anytime soon? 13" is the sweetspot size I'm looking for. Would there be difficulties preventing this from happening?
     
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  2. Starlight5

    Starlight5 Yes, I'm a cat. What else is there to say, really?

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    @Jorban TDP is much higher than what is typically included in 13" and smaller laptops, so I doubt it. Would appreciate it myself, though.
     
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    yep, dont forget its a 100W chip. 14 inchers could be feasible, but 13 inch class doubtful. not that it wouldnt be technically possible, but 99.9% of manufacturers would shy away from such a solution due to not being able to make the resulting machine "THIN", which is naturally all the rage these days...
     
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    Jorban Notebook Enthusiast

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    Well, actually there's 2 chips. The one you're referring to is the Radeon RX Vega M GH. This one is 100W and I think it's supposed to rival really high Nvidia chips. The one I was talking about is the Radeon RX Vega M GL. This one operates at 65W and is supposed to perform somewhere between the Gt1050 and 1050ti. Here's the comparison: https://www.anandtech.com/show/1222...-core-with-radeon-rx-vega-m-graphics-launched

    What do you think about a 65W chip in a 13" chassis. It's certainly more than the typical 15W chips used, but maybe it could work?
     
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    aaah gotcha :) sorry, my bad, havent looked into these new intel/amd chips properly.

    well as i said before, technically and thermally even 100W isnt a problem in a 13 inch form factor, provided the cooling system isnt anemic. however, its up to the OEM and also the consumer to decide what kind of thickness and weight they could live with. and since the trend continues to go towards THIN, LIGHT and consta-throttling i wouldnt hold my breath on that happening. but who knows, maybe Clevo would come up with something in that department :)
     
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    TDP is not only heat, but also power design guideline. So far we have either 15W CPU (rarely configured as cTDP up 25W), or 15W CPU+30W MX150 in 13" thin&light form-factor. 45W is far cry from 65W, IMO, and the space inside is very limited.
     
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    @jaybee83 thick, noisy. Notice I mentioned thin&light form-factor explicitly.
     
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    exactly my point! :D its totally possible to do it and thermals/noise could even be held in check with a bit of modding, but most people just want a system that "works" out of the box. so very unlikely that well see this kinda thing in a 13 incher nowadays...

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    Well, perhaps the closest to this I can get right now is the Surface Book 2 13.5". The model with an i7 processor comes with a GTX 1050.
     
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    15" is more realistic for this 100W TDP design.
    And I wouldn't be surprised if it comes in 17" chassis as well.

    Anything below 15" might be way too thick for most people.
     
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    The Dell XPS 15 2-in-1 actually uses a 65W version specced using cTDPdown to 45W.

    So they can do that.
     
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    If Sony of old was still around, I'd say it would happen. They had a habit of shoving full power mobile CPUs and a dGPU into 13" chassis (with optical drive!). Sometimes, it was brilliant.

    However, that division folded and was spun off in a very weakened state. The only US laptop they have now is yet another Ultrabook, with no more performance than the current XPS13. While the XPS 13 has an arguably too forward looking port selection, the current Vaio has an undoubtedly overly archaic and dated port selection.