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    Windows 7 to detect and optimize for SSDs

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by swarmer, Nov 4, 2008.

  1. swarmer

    swarmer beep beep

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    yuio NBR Assistive Tec. Tec.

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    wow, MS is promising a lot I really hope they deliver!
     
  3. makaveli72

    makaveli72 Eat.My.Shorts

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    Somebody pinch me! My next notebook should be something truly special.
     
  4. K-TRON

    K-TRON Hi, I'm Jimmy Diesel ^_^

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    Is windows 7 similar to Xp?
    I dispise vista, so I hope 7 is like XP.
    I personally dont need the b.s. shiny interface.

    K-TRON
     
  5. atbnet

    atbnet Notebook Prophet

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    No it is similar to Vista since it uses the same kernel. XP is seven years old, making it like XP would be a step backwards.
     
  6. makaveli72

    makaveli72 Eat.My.Shorts

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    Yes K-Tron, I like XP myself but 7 looks like the real deal...what .Vista shoulda been. :rolleyes:
     
  7. Matt is Pro

    Matt is Pro I'm a PC, so?

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    It may ship with a shiny UI, but that can be changed very very easily.
     
  8. davepermen

    davepermen Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    hm. vista is the real deal. wouldn't give it away for xp any time.

    but still, happy to know the steps further that win7 does.
     
  9. makaveli72

    makaveli72 Eat.My.Shorts

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    *sigh* :rolleyes: If you feel that way about .Vista then you should be doing back flips when you get your hands on Windows 7.
     
  10. Tinderbox (UK)

    Tinderbox (UK) BAKED BEAN KING

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    Hi.

    More MS bull, like Vista was optimized for readyboost! , they can keep Windows 7 , do they think people want to continualy spend money on new operating systems, and new software bacause it`s not compatiable.

    Regards

    John.
     
  11. atbnet

    atbnet Notebook Prophet

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    Readyboost wasn't meant to be optimized, it was just an additional feature that really didn't go anywhere. It did help if you only had 1GB of RAM with which to begin, but anything most than that any gains were negligible. SSDs are an entirely different thing.
     
  12. davepermen

    davepermen Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    first: win7 looks to be cheap to free for vista users
    second: yes, i really love win7.. looks like a good fusion of the technology with requirement-reduction to xp. best of both worlds. i have some ui-issues with win7 right now, but no biggy..
    third: win7 will be close to 100% compatible to everything that runs on vista, due to only minor changes in architecture.
    fourth: the incompatibilities that vista had where all hw-vendors faults or buggy software with security risks in. it was hard to draw that line, but in the end, we have a much better base quality of software thanks to it.
     
  13. Tinderbox (UK)

    Tinderbox (UK) BAKED BEAN KING

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    Hi.

    I hope that`s not just for retail owners and us oem`s get the shaft!

    Regards

    John.

     
  14. naus

    naus Notebook Geek

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    Hey could you send upload HDtune screenshots for the Mtron zif SSD? I'd like to purchase one but not sure how fast it would be under the 2710p interface. Thanks!
     
  15. swarmer

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    It's different. ReadyBoost was about using flash memory to cache stuff on your hard drive... SSDs are about replacing your hard drive entirely.



    Also, everybody, the purpose of this thread is to discuss optimizations for SSDs in Windows 7. If you just want to discuss Windows 7 generally, or whether Vista and/or Windows 7 is good, bad, ugly, or whatever, please go to the Windows forum instead... there's a big Windows 7 thread over in the Windows forum for debating that kind of stuff.
     
  16. redrazor11

    redrazor11 Formerly waterwizard11

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    well, this will give manufacturers the fire under their pants to get SSD's into the mainstream.
     
  17. receph

    receph Notebook Evangelist

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    not that anybody ever called me an expert in memory design but...
    SSDs are a trickle down of mainstream memory technology. They are Flash memory, which has been available for quite some time, only faster and designed around a controller.

    If anything brought the price of SSDs, it is ipods and digital cameras.

    as long as people keep buying, they'll keep making them. but the good thing is people don't have to be buying SSDs for their prices to come down. they just need to keep buying flash memory products

    now, as far as the topic of the thread..
    W.*.F.? if they can add extra commands, why can't do that with SP updates on Vista? I doubt (though do not know positively) it's deep inside the kernel and thus can't be changed...
     
  18. Greg

    Greg Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Actually, the flash that you find in small devices and the flash you find in SSDs are two entirely different markets. Once price isn't going to affect the other price by much, if at all.
     
  19. swarmer

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    I would guess they may add it to Vista SP2 as well... I never saw anything that said they wouldn't. I expect that quite a few of the improvements to Windows internals that are being developed for Win 7 will probably also be made available in Vista SP2 or subsequent updates... I don't know which ones though.
     
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    receph Notebook Evangelist

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    oops. I never meant it for anything you wrote.
     
  21. receph

    receph Notebook Evangelist

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    yes. and though they are not exactly the same things, they are built by similar if not the same technologies, as in chipmaking instrument, etc.
    so the advances and infrastructure in one drive the other
     
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    LOL. Oh, the good ol' days.
     
  23. pacmandelight

    pacmandelight Notebook Deity

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    Win7 is supposed to be a better Vista, without the annoyances, bugs and slowdowns. Win7 is supposed to be able to run very well on low powered netbooks.

    Vista is too bloated for the features you get.
     
  24. sgogeta4

    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Win7 is supposed to be the OS that Vista should have been ;)