Would a fanless Bay Trail notebook last very long?

Would a small, fanless, notebook (specifically Acer's E 11) running Intel's Bay Trail -based processors last very long if being pushed most of the time (streaming movies and music and light gaming)? Or would it overheat and burnout after a couple weeks?

 

I wouldn't risk it, get something like the Asus X200MA

 

It would just throttle, nothing is going to fail, at least in most part of the world.

 

For me anything without cooling of any sorts is asking for trouble when pushed to the limits. Fan in laptop play a very critical part of the system for a reason and not just for looks.

 

well, a bay trail laptop probably can be see as a tablet in laptop disguise.

 

Aren't there tablets that run Baytrail Atoms without the need of active cooling?

 

I'm sure the engineers did some stress testing of these fanless designs in order to ensure longterm durability. Right?

 

If by long term you mean "the length of the warranty + 1 day" then yeah, I'm sure they did

 

The E11's have 7.5W or less TDP chips. Your PCH probably has a higher TDP than that, and is rarely actively cooled. Although I'm not a big fan of fanless designs, something with such a low TDP with a decent finned heatsink can be cooled just fine.

 

Lots of them actually, that is the whole point of Bay Trail afterall. That said Bay Trail is also good for tablet like usage, but that is it. It's definitely not something that I'd use as my primary machine.

 

there is no such thing as gaming on a bay trail.... im sorry to say. maybe if you brought your budget to craigslist or something then im sure you could get a used laptop with better specs

 

I beg to differ. I'm on my phone right now will provide link later or search youtube for htwingnut transformer. Tomb raider and a few others running reasonably well. Not that I'd game regularly but occasionally it's fine

 

well i suppose you can get away with it for mobile games but im sure even for $200 something better can be found, i mean my friend found a ASUS ROG G60v with a 260m and 4gb ram, sure it nothing spectacular but it seems to run alot of games with the graphics card given. his laptop was only about $300 on craigslist which is probably around what hes paying for the baytrail. sorry for only focusing on the gaming aspect of everything XD i guess thats what i jump to when it comes to computers

 

No problem. Here's my link for the AMD: http://forum.notebookreview.com/gam...d-a6-1450-radeon-8250-gaming-performance.html

For the Tomb Raider on Asus Transformer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tP7kAgeBtEE

And believe it or not, the integrated Intel HD 4600 is about on par performance with the GTX 260m.

But yeah, I agree, if you want to game a lot the Bay Trail is not for you, but in a pinch, it will work in many cases.

 

Just to add, I have an Asus T100 with a Bay Trail that can play World of Tanks just fine. Low settings on 768p and I can average around 25-30fps. Not a gaming machine by any means, but it'll get the job done when you're out and about.

 

Fanless Bay Tr ail

'nuff said

 

Here are baytrail's gaming chops well displayed, All Credits to Kyle Muehl: https://www.youtube.com/user/th3drow/videos

Games look very nice on an IPS display (because you can see everything that was meant to be seen at all times).

 

technically, you can possibly run games on the Bay-Trail. practicality-wise however, you can't unless you are running something that the BTM iGPU can manage handily which is extremely limited with today's GPU-centric gaming. I just got the latest X200MA model with a darn impressive CPU on it. it literally crapped it's pants when I tested some current gpu-based games on it and is unplayable even with low settings. the BTM iGPU is just too weak to handle those types of gaming requirements. if you want to play gpu-rendered games on this laptop with reasonable quality and performance, you have to go nostalgic with classic games in the past like pre-2009 or something like 2005 if you want to make it look like a high-end gaming laptop.

anyhow, you can use it as a remote laptop if you are really that desperate to play on it (with the help of a source pc unit).

 

I wouldn't get these Bay Trail Atoms... The Intel Atom processors have always been a joke when it comes to performance and will continue to do so.. Your better off looking for a used gaming laptop if you can look around and find a good deal..

 

..Or buy a tegra device.

(Or an old psp ..with cfw. Best console I've ever owned).

 

Pffft that's like comparing a smartphone with a gaming notebook and calling it slow. Totally different products and markets. New Atom SoC =/= old Atom CPU. Performance-wise, it's actually very competitive with the other ARM-based offerings on the market.

 

agree with that. Still.. it's a bit like a Morris Mini with a v12. Or maybe "the world's most efficient Formula 1 car, running at 20km/h".

When you don't see these products in conjunction with the architecture improvements from Silvermont's big brother. Or how better designs of the main-phase chipsets allowed easy slimming down and combining intel motherboard circuitry to a couple of sets of relatively small chips, with a much result than improving Atom again.. Or, if you don't see it in comparison to Haswell, basically.

Or if you don't see this last attempt as a solid replacement for the existing (and sadly well established) "mobile" Atom chipsets. Then it's not really that much to brag about.

Even compared to intel's own very short-lived dual-core atom/Nvidia ION, or amd's APUs, Tegra 3 chipsets.. Compared to any of that it's more that it's finally catching up.

But yeah. The last bay trail pieces are at least useful. Absolutely.

 

Tegra 2,3 were crap and only Tegra 4/K1 seem to be any good.. Actually quite good... However, finding Tegra devices nowadays is quite hard...

Yup but if OP wants to game, its useless.. At the end of the day, he has to decide what he wants.. I personally would get a ULV i5/i7 to get best of both worlds as it will offer sizeable performance and battery life..

 

Maybe when the ULV i5/i7 can be passively cooled in a true thin tablet form factor, i.e. not Surface Pro.

 

well, core M comes pretty close from the looks of it.

 

They key word being "close".

 

that would be a bit of a challenge since the i3/i5/i7 (whether ULV or not) are made for overall performance for very demanding programs. the best they could do is to throttle down the cpu, undervolt or decrease the current influx. this is aside from the iGPU or dedicated GPU use that run alongside the CPU. so something like a 100% passive cooling isn't really something the those types od CPU processors are known for as they are very much dictated by what software they are meant to run. a fan is still a necessity unless they come up with something that doesn't generate heat under full load.

 

again, this would be a question of which programs it is designed to run with.