Would an i7-4700+770m(765m) beat a A10-5750m+8970 with the new mantle/updates?

Currently torn into what to buy.

They helped release drivers to improve the CPUs but it didn't affect the 5750, also mantle will apparently help out with the bottlenecking which is pretty good.

For most games is the 770m currently better I had the impression the AMD laptop will perform better on most games on ultra settings but 30-40FPS is quite an eyesore, while the intel version can just go to high settings and enjoy 60+fps.

In the next 2-4 years it feels like the 770m won't be able to keep up with graphics, however the A10-5750 might suffer even more since at the very least the intel combination can just lower graphics to medium and still enjoy 60fps, the AMD option doesn't have that luxury unless mantle is really good.

What about the 765m? is it just too old to be considered buying nowadays?

4700+770m costs about 1400$
GX70 is about 1250$
4700+765 is like 1100$ish

 

I would pick Nvidia + Intel

 

In the Intel/Nvidia case, the GPU will be the bottleneck. In the AMD/AMD case, the GPU will be the bottleneck. This is all generally speaking. I would personally pick the one with the 8970m in it, but then again the gaming I do is more GPU dependent. In my desktop at home I have a weak processor and a powerful GPU.

 

Would you still pick intel if it had the 765m?

Now supposedly I manage to pick up 300 euro from the street, would a i7-4700 + 770m be better or i7-4700 + 8970 be better?

Is the i7-4700 strong enough to not bottleneck the radeon card? will it work well together since the brands are diff?

 

The 765m can't compete with either the 770m or 8970m. And the 8970m + AMD will still be better in most cases, but some games that require heavy CPU like BF4 will suffer.

 

hmm thanks, I guess I'll have to stick with the AMD version, does mantle's CPU helping properties only work on games that are designed for it? so any game made before late 2014(or ones that are too lazy to program for it) won't see any improvements?

 

Mantle will only work on games that have been patched for Mantle. It's a gimmick at this point in time. Honestly I 'd go for the Intel + nVidia route because if you ever need anything CPU heavy the AMD just won't cut it, especially for only ~ $150 difference.

 

Main problem is that in europe I can get a GX70 for 1300$.

Getting an i7+770m costs about 1750$ here from custom makers or premade MSI machines, I can get i7+r9 m290x for 1800$ from uk specialists which seems to be the best though that is really pricey.

Not sure if the 500$ is worth that, better myself out to old women or something for the cash.

 

Where in Europe are you? Why not just buy a good second-hand machine? Are you specifically interested in the MSI, or would you consider other vendors?
And don't diss the old ladies, they need lovin' too

EDIT: Best question: What's your budget, and what features do you actually want to have in your laptop (besides future-proof).
Oh, and as an aswer to your question, I'd pick the i7-4700 with 770m, and then upgrade the GPU later. I wouldn't mind having an AMD CPU, but not in a high-performance laptop.

 

I only liked the MSI because for 1300$ the GX70 seems to be the best by far and wasn't affected by europes VAT or whatever makes everything more expensive.

But I don't want to have problems in the future or now because of that awful CPU, don't really want to play everything on ultra, but I'd like to have 50-60fps on high for the next 2-3 years and medium on the 4th/5th year when I'm ready to replace.

I can get a m290x for 13 euros more than the 770m if it's custom built from any european site(german or uk, still 1070pounds or 1300ish euro, no SSDs included). Don't really want 2nd hand if possible I want my 2 year warranty.

 

The GX70 is really not a horrible machine for the price, but yes the CPU is already the bottleneck, and it for some games that utilize more power, performance will suffer, but it is a fantastic value for the money [for a new laptop].

There are no used Sager/Clevo in Europe? I got my NP8170 (P170HM) for ~700 USD used with 2670QM, 12 GB RAM, 6990M.

 

I've checked a bunch of people reviewing GX70s online and also checked 765Ms, it looks like even with a mediocre card the i7+765ms give WAY more consistent(50-60) FPS at high settings for most games against the GX.

Frame rate for me is way more important, it looks like I just have to hope something really good comes out in 2-3 months when I am going to buy a laptop, or a major price drop for some intel parts.

 

There is a lot more to settings than low, medium, and high. If you have a powerful cpu but weaker gpu, you can crank up the settings that use the cpu and turn down the settings that use the gpu. Likewise, if you have a weaker cpu but stronger gpu, you can turn down the cpu dependent settings and turn up the gpu dependent settings.

 

Gt60/70 > gx60/70

 

They're a good 400 euro more expensive though lol, I think I'll go with the version which costs 50 bucks more but has i7+765m.

I only like playing online games like WoW/dota 2/diablo 3 etc and they seem to be very cpu hungry. gx70 couldn't even do 40fps in wow's city at med settings while the 765m had 60fps on high.

 

Where in europe are you? The following is a great Clevo Reseller...

mySN.co.uk | XMG | Schenker Technologies - Schenker W703 17.3" Work Station

 

That's still 400 euros more than what I'd pay, In austria so I'd like to get stuff from either ger/aus.

I think I'll just go with a y510p on amazon.de, the 750mSLIs seem to perform better than the 765m, and for 1000eu I can get a 4700mq, SLI 750, 256 SSD and 8gb ram.

The y510p DOES perform better than an equal machine with a 765m right? from my understanding if you go ultra on really demanding games like crysis 3 the SLIs perform badly compared to 765m(which doesn't matter, 20-30ish FPS is unplayable) but if you start lowering up some of the settings the SLI jumps to 60fps far faster than the 765m?

 

You do know these guys also have a german website? Did u try looking there? I'm not sure about the Y510p.. Heard from people it has overheating issues and fans are really loud... Also has no optimus and micro-stuttering issues.. See this review first...

Review Update Lenovo IdeaPad Y510p (GT 755M SLI) Notebook - NotebookCheck.net Reviews