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    Would this laptop be a FAIL?

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by Nixce, Dec 26, 2011.

  1. Nixce

    Nixce Newbie

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    Hello,

    I'm looking for a not THAT expensive laptop but great for gaming. So I think i found one with an awesome gfx card for its price range ( 1130 € ) but I'm having some serious doubts about the cpu...:

    MSI GT683DX:

    15,6 inch 1920 x 1080 pixels
    Processor Intel Core i5-2410m dual core 2.3ghz :)s lacking qm here? )
    RAM 6 GB SO-DIMM DDR3-1333 1x4 GB + 1x2 GB (4 slots up to 16)
    500 GB
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX570M 1536 MB


    Would I fail to play some nice games in the futures because of the CPU here?
    Or any other remarks I should into consideration?

    tyvm for yr time :)
     
  2. Kuu

    Kuu That Quiet Person

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    I'd be more worried about the GPU not being fast enough :3

    Most games are GPU limited and won't show much of a difference between a Core i5 and a i7, but if you plan on doing more than just gaming, a faster CPU will help useful life.

    What game are you looking at exactly?
     
  3. Nixce

    Nixce Newbie

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    atm I only play mmo's (lotro atm) all on low/very low spec's as i play with Inspiron 6400 with X1300 integrated card 0.o

    Guess when I buy a machine for 1100€ I'd like to play all recent games very smooth at most specs ( high pref. )

    Had to abandon Entropia Universe ( Cry Engine 2 )
     
  4. Nixce

    Nixce Newbie

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    Would a Dell xps 3GB NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 555M ( or less gb - read not much diff ) with a i7-2670 run most games better then above one?

    Just an example of what to find on same price ---- SOOOOO many choises for a noobie like me to decide lol

    Could u explain a bit more about the gpu u told about? Don't really get it all sry
     
  5. Kuu

    Kuu That Quiet Person

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    Now if only I knew more about games... -doesn't play them much anymore-

    You should be fine with the MMO's since they usually make those to lower minimum requirements so they can get the most amount of people playing them. I can tell you even as is, the new computer will be like a flight of stairs up compared to your old one.

    Edit: probably slower due to the lower GPU. And most people don't like double posting..
     
  6. Nixce

    Nixce Newbie

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    Sorry but what does the gpu do? I mean is it because of the smaller i5 proc? Or is it part of the gfx card? Again sry, only trying to learn these things when looking for a new laptop.

    Btw, I'm looking for a high end gfx card so I dont need to play other -none mmo lower req's- on low specs... so this would be a fail setup I guess. Would the "third post setup" be better?

    Edit: sry for the double post
     
  7. mangle

    mangle Notebook Enthusiast

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    mangle Notebook Enthusiast

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    The gpu is the processor on your graphics card. Generally the graphics card is the "weakest link" or "bottleneck" in gaming performance. Long story short, DO NOT DOWNGRADE YOUR GRAPHICS CARD.
     
  9. Nixce

    Nixce Newbie

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    Hehe ty, i already tried to read that when trying to compare. I hope I can conclude the 570m is way better then the 555m.

    But would the i5-2410 cripple the awesome mobile 570 vs an qmi7-2630 let's say with a 555m? It all still confuses me... (I only need to game with the laptop, so I thought the gfx card could be high end, cpu i5 would do?)

    If people say the gpu won't be fast enough with the 570m what does that mean exactly?

    Edt: Ah I see U already answered that meanwhile :), sad thing just received mail from the shop, that kind of laptop isn't available anymore - there goes a 2 days search lol :) - ofc site still says it does ^^ ty laptopshop :)
     
  10. lidowxx

    lidowxx Notebook Deity

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    i5-2410m+gtx570M>>>>>>>>>>>>>i7-2630qm+gtx555M, in gaming world, at least. CPU matters little in the mass majority of the games, video card is what bottlenecks modern games in most cases. 570M is a high end card while 555M is only belongs to the mid-range, so 570M all the way.

    Also keep in mind that graphic card is NOT upgradable in most laptops, and that makes you want to get the best card you can afford. CPUs, on the contrary, usually can be upgraded. If you are unsatisfied with your CPU performance, you can always upgrade it later down the road and by then price of higher CPUs will drop too.
     
  11. Tsunade_Hime

    Tsunade_Hime such bacon. wow

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    Ya that MSI is a good deal. When I was looking at a 17" DTR, it was a reasonable 950 for a 570M, and a 1080p matte LCD with an i5.

    Worst case, if you find the i5 bottlenecking the 570M, you can easily upgrade the CPU vs a GPU upgrade that may or may not be doable/feasible.
     
  12. Nixce

    Nixce Newbie

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    Think I found something better: ( do hope so finally)

    1 x BTO X-BOOK 15M39 laptop. Met nVidia GTX 570m en Core i7 (15M39-GTX570) = €1.157,16
    DVD of Blu-ray / extra harddisk DVD-+RW brander (te vervangen voor extra harddisk)
    Wireless card Intel Centrino Wireless-N 130 150Mbit
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    Processor Core i7-2670QM (2,2Ghz, 6Mb cache)
    Raid Geen
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    Harddisk 640Gb 7200rpm 16Mb cache
    Geheugenslot (4) Leeg geheugenslot
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    Geheugenslot (2) 4Gb BTO selected High Speed 1600Mhz
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    Garantie 2 Jaar Carry-in garantie (standaard) + 1 Jr NBT
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  13. Deks

    Deks Notebook Prophet

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    Yup...that's a lot better 'bang for buck'.

    Quads are more or less a 'standard' today, so you would do well to get that...

    And while most games ARE in fact gpu bound, more and more are starting to rely on a multicore CPU as well.
     
  14. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    That laptop looks much better, agreed.

    The first laptop you were looking at with the Core i5-2410M dual-core - that is a decent processor but for a gaming notebook, it makes sense to get a quad-core. The i7-2670QM is far, far faster.
    Do you have a link to that second laptop?
     
  15. Nixce

    Nixce Newbie

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