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    anyone running two ssd in laptop?

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by fantomasz, Jun 9, 2012.

  1. fantomasz

    fantomasz Notebook Deity

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    I just purchase and install second ssd in my laptop.Smaller ssd is for system and new 512GB ssd as storage.Before with one ssd+hdd,when I was surfing the internet,pictures,watching videos the hdd make more noise than fans.Now with both ssd my laptop is almost silent.I love it.

    But my question is how long secondary ssd will last when used as storage drive?I am crazy to use ssd as storage drive?
     
  2. ForeverZen

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    It will last forever. SSD's have something crazy like 100 years data retention. You made a good choice.
     
  3. Tsunade_Hime

    Tsunade_Hime such bacon. wow

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    SSDs are more reliable but they aren't immune to logical failures, or physical failure (short on PCB, dead SSD, etc) and data recovery on an SSD is almost non existant.
     
  4. Jarhead

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    Practically-speaking, your SSDs will last forever. Real-world data on write wear. Notice that reads don't really affect the drive. As for writes, you should be good up until the 300-400TB range.

    I was considering a SSD+HDD option, though I figured I shouldn't let my first SSD sit to waste. Plus, I don't baby my laptop at all lol.
     
  5. HTWingNut

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    As far as read/writes you should be more than fine, but heed Tsunade_Hime's advice. Controllers can and will fail making your data inaccessible. But as usual backup backup backup
     
  6. ViciousXUSMC

    ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer

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    My GT70 has two MSATA SSD in Raid 0 stock...
     
  7. fantomasz

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    I always backup on external hdd.
     
  8. davidricardo86

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    I've got two Samsung SSDs (830+470) in my E425. I didn't want a noisy HDD spinning about inside my laptop. I love it and I don't baby it either. I also backup to two HDDs.

    Your secondary SSD will last a very long time so enjoy your computer and stop worrying.
     
  9. fantomasz

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    Thanks
    I love my laptop again because is so quiet now.
    I purchase Samsung 830 128GB to replace primary OCZ.
     
  10. Abidderman

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    A couple of years ago everyone worried about the life cycle of the NAND, worrying how long they would last, since the SSD's were not so widespread and hadn't been out for consumers for long. Not many had had one long enough to know what the actual lifetime was.

    That is where all the info came out about tweaking and such, to minimize writes to prolong the drive.

    Last year, some guys did a study, using a program to constantly write to drives. They used it mostly on small drives, which have less headroom for Trim to work with. They wrote the drives full over and over.

    Here is the link. SSD Write Endurance 25nm Vs 34nm

    My newest SSD has just about 350TBs on it. The rest have much more. All still show 100% life left on them. All bench and feel like they did when still new. I think you will be ok as far as writes go.

    That being said, an SSD is just like anything else. It can still have issues and fail. They are not impervious to heat, liquids, controller failure, improper firmware upgrade brickage. However, that is what the warranty is for ( well, warranty and backups).

    Now, maybe old age and too many concerts when I was younger have rendered me darn near deaf, but I have a couple of SSD and HDD setups, and I don't notice the HDD on any of them. I also don't notice the fans on my Sager, although I do on the Asus G73 when it gets taxed.

    In short, I wouldn't worry about the SSD dual setup, and nice job replacing the OCZ with the much better and more reliable Sammy. That is a great drive. Combined with your Crucial, you have a great setup.
     
  11. virtualjock

    virtualjock Notebook Enthusiast

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    I run 3 SSDs in my thinkpad (it has msata). I also swap between a hybrid 750 seagate with the one in the ultrabay.

    I am a Slickdeals addict and can't help myself when crucial starts discounting and you get a a 256GB M4 for $179 or two 128GB M4 for $90 each.

    I bought a bunch of 256 & 128 GB and I'm thinking about building a thunderbolt RAID.

    I can't go back now.
     
  12. __-_-_-__

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    if it is a sandforce based SSD then it will last a few weeks before a complete meltdown of data. beware.
     
  13. tijo

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    The M4 has a marvell controller, the same one as the Intel 510, albeit not with the same firmware. Still, it has what i'd consider a pretty decent controller, not the fastest kid on the block, but it has proven itself.
     
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    I wonder if it can it be flashed to the intel firmware...
     
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    Good question, i also wonder if Intel and Crucial (Micron) both get the NAND for the SSDs from their joint venture in which case, it would also be the same NAND with Intel getting dibs on the higher bins IIRC. If it's the same controller, same NAND and the PCB design is quite similar, maybe it could be done, it would break pretty much every warranty there is, but now i'm curious. I'm still not gonna try it on one of my M4s.
     
  16. hp79

    hp79 Notebook Evangelist

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    Now that mSATA and regular size SSDs are becoming more and more popular, for those that have two SSDs in your laptop, what are you guys' use cases?

    I have a Crucial m4 128GB mSATA (runs as SATA2 mode because X230T's mSATA is SATA2 port) and 115GB OCZ Vertex 2 (SATA2 drive). I just got the 256GB Samsung 840 pro (SATA3) for $200, so I will be replacing the OCZ Vertex 2 in my Thinkpad X230T.

    Previously, I had Windows 8 on the faster Crucial m4, and Windows 7 on OCZ. I like to keep the OS'es on a completely different disk. But now that I got the spacious 256GB and a very fast drive, I'm debating should I just pull out the Crucial as well. I often do a full system backup and restore once in a while, and having two SSDs really helped. But then I noticed the OCZ Vertex was almost slow as a HDD for writing backup data which is sequential writes.
     
  17. HTWingNut

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    I'm using a 256GB Crucial M4 mSATA SSD and a 512GB Crucial M4 2.5" SATA SSD in my Sager. Even though the mSATA port is only SATA II, still more than sufficient for performance.