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    are those temperatures high (overclocking)

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by naton, Jul 15, 2009.

  1. naton

    naton Notebook Virtuoso

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    Laptop: Gateway MX3103b (14.1")
    CPU: C2D T5300
    FSB: 200 mhz (after pin mod)

    The result below are with RMclock and Arctic Silver 5 (no curring time)

    multiplier ---- Vcore --- Speed --- Temp
    06x ------- 0.9500 v -- 1.2 ghz -- 56c
    07x ------- 0.9500 v -- 1.4 ghz -- 58c
    08x ------- 0.9500 v -- 1.6 ghz -- 59c
    09x ------- 0.9875 v -- 1.8 ghz -- 64c
    10x ------- 1.0375 v -- 2.0 ghz -- 70c
    11x ------- 1.1000 v -- 2.2 ghz -- 76c
    12x ------- 1.1500 v -- 2.4 ghz -- 79c
    13x ------- 1.2000 v -- 2.6 ghz -- 84c (not stable)

    Are those temperatures too high?

    thanks
     
  2. sgogeta4

    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    They are decent, but not spectacular. I personally find 70+ too high for my liking.
     
  3. nacholambre

    nacholambre Notebook Consultant

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    WOW. They certainly are very high temperatures man! Try updating your BIOS to see if it helps. Maybe clean the heat sink also! Sometimes dust gets in and makes heat sink work less efficiently. Good luck!
     
  4. naton

    naton Notebook Virtuoso

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    clean heatsink + RMclock + AS5 :)
     
  5. Andy

    Andy Notebook Prophet

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    Are those load temps? If not, I think they are a bit high. I overclocked a similar CPU in a similar notebook, to a FSB of nearly 200MHz, and the CPU's load temps were around 80*C.
     
  6. sgogeta4

    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I assume they're load since the OP seems to know what he is doing :p
     
  7. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    not that high really, at 2.6ghz my T7300 is around 90C.
    But that might be because at 2.6ghz I don't bother undervolting, maybe I should try just to see what happens.
     
  8. K-TRON

    K-TRON Hi, I'm Jimmy Diesel ^_^

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    My T5300 running at 100% load at its stock 1.73Ghz would never run above 145F. That translates to ~63C
    Keep in mind I had my fan in my E1505 locked to full rpm.

    I am surprised you got it up to 2.4Ghz stable

    can you share a picture of the socket M socket, so we can see your pin modding :D

    K-TRON
     
  9. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    OK, I just checked;
    my T7300 @2.5ghz with 1.1V is at 73C, so your temps are a little high.

    I don't know if they are too high.
    When I first got my notebook it reached 84C after running orthos for 1 min.
     
  10. namaiki

    namaiki "basically rocks" Super Moderator

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    My stock P8600 (yeah not the same CPU, nor core, nor socket) 2.4GHz runs 55C at full load. My laptop is 14" as well and with stock thermal paste.

    The T2300 (stock 1.66, 667), in my E1505 runs 65-76C at full load, fans at auto.

    I don't know if it's simply the 50% overclock :D, but maybe your AS5 is too thick, though honestly, I would be fine with any temps lower than 80C.
     
  11. naton

    naton Notebook Virtuoso

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    Yes those are load temperatures. I used orthos to stress the CPU. When the T5300 runs at 2.6ghz without been stressed the temperature is in the region of 45c.

    Usefull information. The T7300 is cooler than the T5300 since it uses a newer technology.

    Bloody T5300. I had to up the voltage (VID mod) from 1.1750 to 1.2000v to be able to do some rendering in 3DS Max. Despite increasing the Vcore, the T5300 is still instable when stressed with orthos. I reckon the Vcore to get it stable would be 1.2250 to 1.2500v. But with those Vcore I think the temperarture will reach 90c :(

    Another usufull information. That reasuring. Because the T5300 was instable I replaced it with my old T2500, which I pin moded to run at 2.4 Ghz (200 FSB). My max temp, is 77c under load :).

    I applied a very thin layer of AS5.

    I know that AS5 needs a curring time of about 240hours. What would be the temperature decrease after the curring is completed?
     
  12. 0.0

    0.0 Notebook Consultant

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    Don't feel too bad about having to increase the core voltage, I had to do the same on mine after a FSB HW mod from 266 to 333. If you really feel the last multiplier is a problem and will cause to much stress maybe you could try the latest beta of NHC and disable it.

    As far as how hot should these CPU's go AFAIK as long as they are below Tjmax, which for my cpu is 105C, they should still be operating in spec. :D
    Yeah, I know, heat lowers lifespan but the question has to be by how much. If the cpu can last 5 years still I would be happy with that. More of a concern to me is the case temperature which I haven't been able to measure and the Northbridge probably even more so as it doesn't seem to incorporate any active thermal sensing or shutdown mechanism.

    Anyway this is my first time overclocking a cpu and just my personal thoughts so don't take anything too seriously. :)
     
  13. naton

    naton Notebook Virtuoso

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    I was going to do that since the T5300 is really fast @2.4 and 2.6 Ghz. Then I thought about what will happen if I decided to re-install windows :(. I saw trouble ahead... Windows not wanting to install because of the instable
    CPU, and me having to take the laptop completely apart to undo the pin mod so I can re-install Windows, and then me taking it apart again to re-do the mod... :(

    I'm not really anoyed about the CPU hitting 90c once in a while, I'm a bit scared about what would happen to the rest of the compenants in my laptop, not to mention my laps
     
  14. namaiki

    namaiki "basically rocks" Super Moderator

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    You could then temporarily disable Speedstep in the BIOS so the CPU gets locks at the lowest multiplier (mine does) and then re-enable it after you're back into Windows.
     
  15. 0.0

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    Oh, I thought you were going to put the voltage up a little more to make it stable then disable it because of the heat. If you had to reinstall windows I don't know how cpu intensive it would be, but hopefully not as intensive as Orthos so that running with the max multi and stable voltage wouldn't generate excessive heat during installation. But your right, it's not a very elegant solution and you would have to be careful booting other OSes.

    This is why it would be nice to know the case temperature rather than just the core temp.