cache memory !!??

what is cache memory ?? and is it important in rendering in 3ds max for exapmle ?? and dose the 2 mb will much differ than the 4mb ( will i notice much difference ) ?? and dose the 2.2 ghz will be much better than the 2.1 ?

 

In those situations i think more cache will do some good effort! I think 2.1Ghz 4MB will be faster than 2.2Ghz 2MB when it comes to rendering in 3ds max, not with a big margin, but a little. But a little is always something.

 

and wat about the amd vs intel .. dose the 2 mb in an amd processor is good for such work and compareable to 4mb from intel .. ?

sorry for my bad english

 

AMD's are much more efficient about allocating cahce memory than Intel processors.
For 3ds Max and rendering, assuming V-ray as well, cpu power is everything. You will want to get the fastest thing you can with your budget, it really makes a difference in rendering times.
A 2.1Ghz Intel with a 4mb cache will be faster than a 2.2Ghz with a 2 mb of cache memory. This is because Intels are reliant on their cache more than AMD.
With AMD, a 2.2Ghz cpu with 512kb cache will perform almost identical to one with 2mb of cache.

What are your cpu options?
You should look at a T9300/P8400 for rendering.

K-TRON

 

my options are
Amd Turion Ultra ZM-80 ( 2.1 with 2mb cache ) with 3450 Ati
Or
Intel 7500 Core 2 duo ( 2.2 with 4mb cahce ) with 8400m gs

my budget is tight as here in egypt everything is high priced .. :S :S .. so i cant go for a laptop with 9300 or 9400

 

The T7500 will beat out the Turion Ultra by a pretty large margin.
The Turion Ultra will be about the speed of a T7100 or so. The AMD notebook cpu's are just not as fast as the Intel ones.

Go with the T7500

K-TRON

 

well i think i will go for the 7500 but as u know the amd's with better price and better graphic card .. so do u think that the difference will worth the extra money with lower graphic card ? ( sorry but i dont have much experience )

 

well the 3450 is a better graphics card, but CAD, 2d or 3d and rendering will not be inhibited by either of the graphics cards. Both will be able to handle your renders. The cpu does all of the work in rendering/3dsmax. The AMD Turion Ultra has a very limited range for upgrading, whereas the intel system can most likely be upgraded from a T7500 to a T9500/X9000.

which models are they in particular?

K-TRON

 

Hp Pavilion Dv5-1030 ee ( amd )

Hp Pavilion dv6580ee the Intel one ..

last question the 8400 can run NFs Mostwanted :$ ?? i love to play some games with work sometimes .. are u an archtiect ?

 

yup, I am an architecture student at Rensselaer in New York USA.

The 3450 is a better graphics card, and it will be able to play NFS without any problem. The 8400GS will struggle a bit, but I think it can be played on it.
The 3450 is a better card, so if you also do gaming go with the Dv5

Their is an hp section on notebook review. Their are probably hundreds of people their who have the dv5. I would look for some reviews of it to find out its negatives, and do the same with the Intel one.
Than compare to find out which one is better.

K-TRON

 

Yeah you should really go for the intel. I thought from your first post you where mentioning two different intel-processors

 

thnx guys for help .. i just want an overall good laptop with V.good architectural programs like archicad and cad and 3dmax ..

anyway wat do u think guys about this ( i mean the processor )
forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=270195&highlight=Turion+Ultra+ZM-80

see the wPrime comparison results .. u will find just the 7500 and the zm-80 is not that large .. so would i go for the zm 80 ..?? which i prefer for its price and Graphic card

 

Is there a performance difference b/w the T7500 & ZM-80: NO

Is there a performance different b/w the 8400M GS & HD 3450: NO

Get the notebook which is cheaper....

(Intel mobile CPUs are better than AMD, because I'm an Intel Fanboy)

 

Well W-prime isnt everything. If the performance scores are similar to you, go with the cheaper AMD turion Ultra.
I would take the ati 3450 over the 8400GS any day. The ATI card does not have the core leakage problem which the 8 and 9 series chips from nVidia have, and the 3450 is a more power efficient card, so you will get better battery life with it.
As far as performance difference goes between the 3450 and the 8400GS, the 8400GS scores about 1400 3d marks and the 3450 scores 1800-2000 3d marks. The ATi is the better choice.

K-TRON

 

thnx guys i think i will go for the amd one .. as it has better price and better card and the good proccessor .. thnx

edit :
i searched alot for a review for the Zm-80 but i couldnt find any .. so anyone now a review for it ?