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    cpu differences?

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by westbeach, Nov 17, 2013.

  1. westbeach

    westbeach Newbie

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    Edit - sorry about the formatting on the specs below, It was all spaced out until i posted



    I am thinking of buying a vaio multi-flip 15" but want the best power i can get for multi tasking, I currently have a vaio with an i5 8gb ram and it bogs down quite a lot

    I have looked on sony's site and the best i can spec it is i7 4500u 1.8 ghz cpu and 16gb ram
    I have also looked at the macbook pro which i can spec to i7 2.6ghz

    Will the macbook offer much better performance?
    Will the vaio i7 offer much more performance than my current processor as it seems to fall behind in some areas but i do not know how relevant these are?

    Below are the specs for the 3 different processors from intels website

    Vaio multi-flip / MBP / Current cpu


    Processor Number i7-4500U/ i7-4960HQ / i5-3210M
    Launch Date Q3'13 / Q4'13 / Q2'12
    # of Cores 2 / 4 / 2
    # of Threads 4 / 8 / 4
    Cache 4.0 MB /6.0 MB / 3.0 MB
    Clock Speed 1.80 GHz/ 2.60 GHz / 2.50 GHz
    Max Turbo Frequency 3.00 GHz /3.80 GHz / 3.10 GHz
    Bus/Core Ratio - - 25
    Bus Type DMI2 DMI2 DMI
    Instruction Set 64-bit 64-bit 64-bit
    Instruction Set Extensions SSE 4.1/4.2, AVX 2.0 SSE 4.1/4.2, AVX 2.0 AVX
    Lithography 22 nm 22 nm 22 nm
    Max TDP 15 47 35
    Memory Specifications
    Max Memory Size 16 GB 32 GB 32 GB
     
  2. tijo

    tijo Sacred Blame

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    First, I would find what is causing your system to bog down. It could be bloatware if you are on the factory windows installation, could be RAM, could be the CPU or it could even be the HDD. A faster CPU won't help much if you are RAM or HDD limited.

    It would also help to define multitasking for your use case.

    The i7 quad core obviously has an advantage in multithreaded workloads, but if all you're doing is writing reports in MS Word, using a Browser and listening to music at the same time, any modern CPU will handle that.
     
  3. tilleroftheearth

    tilleroftheearth Wisdom listens quietly...

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    Yeah; we need more info. What is your workload for this system?

    Also; what generation of i5?

    Multi-tasking requires RAM - 16GB is the starting point. It also requires CPU power - QC's; especially if two or more of your programs are heavy duty.

    Note that the RAM capacity should be matched to the cpu HP if you want the most beneficial results (I would not recommend an i7 4500u as an i5 (depending on the generation) could be more powerful than this specific i7).


    So, where/what bogs down? Do you currently have an SSD installed? What O/S version are we talking about here?

    As you can see; the details matter.




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  4. westbeach

    westbeach Newbie

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    My current laptop is here > Sony : Specification for SVE1512M1EW | SVE1512M1EW technical specifications

    I have upgraded it to 8gb ram

    Programs i comonly run

    quickbooks
    planswift
    office
    serato dj
    sony vegas
    chrome with 6-10 tabs
    Genie timeline running continuous background backup
    dropbox is running background and often updating files

    programs often go unresponsive - sometimes they close other times they recover
    all bloatware is removed
    I dont run background virus software but do scan regularly and scan for spyware
    fix reg problems and any other errors
    I dont use win 8 tiles, just the desktop with classic shell
    all live tiles are disabled
     
  5. StormJumper

    StormJumper Notebook Virtuoso

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    If Sony I can say for sure it is Sony Bloatware. Find and uninstall apps you don't want and any trial sofware and then use CCleaner to clean out any remaining software. Also if you have Norton software go to Norton site and find the Norton removal uninstall software and wipe Norton off the face of the Earth. Also same for any software you don't need on there some A/V program have uninstaller software so get those and wipe those out. And then get MSE and install that as that software is bloatware free and is a A/V and malware protection in one program and it will also update your Windows software to protect you more. As anything any trial software is a in my mind is illegal and they should be fined for putting it on the computer to start with as those program most allow malware to come right through your protection. That should definitely improve your computer and with the 8Gig you have should've be more then suffice to run being bogged down is very suspicious bloatware doing that for you. So wipe and delete any bloatware folder and resume a more efficient computing experience again.
     
  6. maverick1989

    maverick1989 Notebook Deity

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    With those programs, you're better off getting a laptop with a "real" i7. By "real", I mean not those "U" class dual cores Intel sells. However, I'm curious as to why you want a MBP. Sony Vegas does not come for the Mac so you'd need Bootcamp. I use Bootcamp occasionally on my work Mac and I'm not quite happy with the performance.

    You could spec a PC with a 4960HQ. Actually pretty much any quad core i7 should be fine.

    As for the RAM, start with 8 GB. See if you need more. If your RAM is getting maxed out, go to 16.
     
  7. tilleroftheearth

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    Having had a couple of VAIO's myself, removing 'bloatware' is not the same as a clean install (especially with Sony systems).

    Consider doing a clean install of Windows 8.1 with just the necessary Sony drivers (no Sony software) to fully enable the hardware - then, try installing 16GB RAM (from a non-restocking fee, fully returnable seller) and definitely upgrade your HDD to at least a 7200 RPM version or better yet; an SSD (1/2 TB or bigger).


    With 16GB RAM; with an SSD or HDD - disable System Restore, disable the pagefile (after testing that your set of programs won't complain/crash without it) and partition the HDD or SSD appropriately.


    For the HDD (the important point is to minimize the C:\ partition to as small as possible, to keep the O/S as smooth as possible):

    See:
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/har...-hitachi-7k500-benchmark-setup-specifics.html



    For the SSD (the important part is to leave a substantial percentage of the capacity as 'unallocated' for maximum, sustained (over time) performance:

    See:
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/sol...arks-brands-news-advice-1066.html#post9317068



    With the video editing you are depending the system to perform, I would guess that even all of the suggestions implemented above would still be limiting your productivity in your intended workflows (even if the 'bogging down' is greatly minimized).


    Hope this helps.


    Good luck.
     
  8. westbeach

    westbeach Newbie

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    Thanks for all your advise in this thread and the sony vaio flip thread

    I went for a mbp in the end and a couple of months in im very happy with it, running my windows programs on vmware and would recommend to anyone else
    with a similar decision