eSATA external hard drive enclosure that supports power from combo USB port?

Recent updates / highlights to the responses below:

The DeLOCK #42465 was the first product listed here to meet the requirements. Unfortunately, availability is pretty much unavailable in the US, outside of paying for international shipping.

Thanks to Pitabred and Joe Bleau for finding an equivalent (literally) that is now readily available within the US:

After shipping, the cheapest place to get this is apparently from amazon.com or buy.com, even though both are "Ships from and sold by geeks.com".

Original message that started this thread follows:

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Combination eSATA and USB ports have been discussed here before, on threads 266299 and 310906. I have one on my Dell Latitude E6500.

What I'm looking for is an external hard drive and/or enclosure that can connect to this using the eSATA signal and USB power - in one cable. Or, a Y-cable that connects and breaks out into regular eSATA and some sort of power (USB or a DC barrel connector) would also be acceptable - as long as it only occupies the one combo port on my laptop.

This is certainly possible. Dell's External E-Modular Bay / Media Bay does almost exactly this. Unfortunately, I understand it to only be compatible with the internal bay on the laptop, which means only optical drives and 1.8" hard drives, not the more typical 2.5" hard drives.

After some searching, I saw this: http://oyendigital.com/hard-drives/store/EB2-S.html. One of the feature descriptions: "DuoLink eSATA/USB 2-in-1 connector combines an eSATA and a USB 2.0 port into a single connector". It also looks exactly the same as the combo port on my Latitude. Unfortunately, per the description and after using the live chat on that site, it seems that the eSATA cable is wired eSATA-only, and that the pins on the enclosure's combo port aren't even wired to power.

If anyone runs into a supporting enclosure and/or cable, please reply back and let me and everyone else know. Thanks!

 

If you take a look at the Latitude forums, there is a thread about getting a 2.5inch drive to run in the modular bay. It uses the Lenovo 2.5 inch hard drive adapter for the Lenovo media bay.

Greg

 

Thanks. I saw that, but it'd be a bit of an awkward size, with all the wasted space on the edges. I'm subscribed to this thread, so hopefully when someone finds a better solution - if I don't find something first, I which case I promise to reply back.

 

I also desire such an enclosure.... I could re-use my 64GB SSD as a super fast memory key of sorts

 

I just noticed a new thread related to this with what certainly appears to be at least one solution!! See http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=390744.

I don't know German, but just the pictures from the following eBay listings look very promising, based on the item # that gbi7 provided in the linked post above:

• Item # 360159820517 - Combo eSATA/USB to SATA w/ power.
• Item # 360159806544 - Appears to be an adapter from the Combo eSATA/USB port (e.g. on the Dell Latitude E6500) to a break-out of both the eSATA and USB ports. Judging from the description, the USB port is wired for both data and power. I'd be curious to know if both ports could be used at once.
• Item # 220426657597 - A 1 meter cable with the combo eSATA/USB connectors on both ends.

My original desire was to make the most use out of the combo eSATA/USB port on my Latitude E6500 as possible. It has 4 USB ports, one shared with the eSATA. If I were to use an eSATA enclosure such as the one I previously linked to for portable use (not wall-powered), it would be one device that required at least 2 of the USB ports, if not 3. It would "hog" the combo port for USB only, and then require 1-2 USB ports just for power. This would be especially difficult, considering this would require connecting to both sides of the laptop.

The first item listed above (# 360159820517) looks very promising, and I may just have to give it a try. The only down-sides I see are 1) that it doesn't provide an "enclosure" for protection and portable use of an external hard drive, and 2) if additional power is needed, it doesn't appear to provide a way to link into additional amps, either from a 2nd USB port or external power.

The second item (# 360159820517) would allow me to use an enclosure such as the Oyen Digital one I linked to, while only occupying 1-2 of the USB ports. However, I see a few issues here, at least with the port placement on the Latitude E6500. It would almost certainly block the VGA port to the right, making it unusable. The height may or may not allow access to the regular USB port above the combo port. The security lock slot to the left would also most likely be unusable. Personally, I'd much rather prefer a "y-cable" version of this adapter.

The third item (# 220426657597) is useful to know about, but doesn't really provide any solutions without a supporting enclosure, etc.

 

nando4 - Even better! Too bad it's currently listed as out-of-stock.

I like it comes with a case, but I'd be hesitant to call it an enclosure. It's probably great for frequently swapping drives, but I wouldn't trust that to protect a hard drive in my backpack.

While it has the advantage of being designed to only require the one combo port while supporting eSATA, I'd still prefer a solution that allows additional power to be made available if necessary, either through a 2nd USB connection or external power. (Manufacturers, take note!)

This type of cable also makes it impossible to use 3.5" drives with higher power requirements, even though the connection is identical. Not that this would be "normal use", but is handy for data recovery and other repair uses while working on desktops. A work-around would be if the 3.5" drive still has the standard 4-pin "Molex" type power connector as well as the SATA power connector, where the Molex connector could be connected to external power. (Not all 3.5" SATA drives have both power connectors.)

So I guess I'm either holding out for a modified version of this cable that can support additional power, or a supporting enclosure to make use of a compatible cable - which also provides additional power options.

I know - picky, picky.

F.Y.I., - just found a useful page from MSI that does a good job illustrating this "combo port" and some of the advantages: http://www.msi.eu/poweresata/

 

I'm using this one: Rocketfish 2.5" USB SATA External Hard Drive Case+Cable. It can be powered by the USB port, or with additional adapter. I've tested it and there was little to no difference in the performance when using either USB or adapter power.

 

While that looks like a decent adapter and has a great price, it doesn't take any advantage of the eSATA/USB combo port. It's guaranteed to always occupy 2 of my 4 available USB ports if not using external power. It also doesn't come with a USB Y-cable if the power from the one USB port is not sufficient. (This can vary by the laptop or the hard drive.)

 

have a external hard drive case with a new tb hard drive installed and now the notebook, 6930g will not see the port. I hear the cable connector need to be modified to work better with the port. Also I hear the the device need to be turn on before booting. Anyone can help on turning the esata port, appartenly the drivers that are available from acer will not open it up.
Any help would be nest.
greg

 

Is that a 3.5" HDD using external power? Make sure it is turned on and running before you connect it.

If the computer uses the Intel chipset, download and install version 8.8 of the Intel Matrix Storage Manager.

John

 

@greg

I had to cut a couple of mm off the plastic on the eSATA cable in order for it to go in the laptop and WD Home 1tb. Even after that you'll probably need to import the disk in disk management. You'll see a "foreign disk" listed there, right-click it and choose import. In Vista i always had to hook it up before booting or i had to import the disk in that way....in Win7 it reads the disk whenever i plug it in

 

hey

maybe you're searching for something like this:
Delock 2.5“ External enclosure SATA HDD > Power Over eSATA

it's a 2,5'' enclose which supports power-over-esata. I bought it at a online shop somedays ago and I hope it will arrive here soon.
and it should work fine just over esata just with one cable

a friend of mine bought it too for his dell studio 15

 

The description is a bit contradictory though:

1. Power Over eSATA Port
2. USB Port
3. eSATA Port + USB Port für die Stromversorgung

nr 3 would mean it DOES need both cables for power supply but nr 1 says it gets power over eSATA

let us know if it works on eSATA alone, i'd love to have something like that running on just one cable but i don't want to use 2 ports for 1 external disk...i usually have them all occupied already.

edit: it might just work because the description further on reads that you need:

1. a free eSATA port OR
2. 2 free USB ports OR
3. free eSATA + a free USB

don't know why point 3 is there though as either one of the other 2 cancel it out.

 

this enclosure has different options for connecting it with your pc.
if you have a combo usb/esata port (esatap) you just need an esatap cable to connect it and you'll have full esata speed

if you just have an esata port on your notebook you need a second cable (usb) for power, but you still have full esata speed

if you don't have esata, you have to use 1 or 2 usb ports (depending on the hdd in the enclosure). then you have only usb speed which is really slow in comparison to esata

maybe I'm going to write a short review about it, when I get the enclosure

 

Ah ok...makes sense the combo port makes the difference then

 

The D-Lock is the one to go for, they even do PCI-E x 1 Cards with E-SATA powered ports... as well as slimline micro sata optical drive enclosures

Only trouble is getting a UK Distributor, have to work my way through their german reseller list to find one that ships to the UK.

 

@meansizzler:
I found the delock enclosure at amazon.co.uk

 

The DeLOCK #42465, first posted here by herrmo, is exactly what I'm looking for. Please update this thread if anyone finds this or an equivalent product with easy sales and shipping to the US. (I'd buy from amazon.co.uk, if I wouldn't get hit with high shipping charges, or more significantly, exchange rates and penalties from my credit card. )

 

Hello,

My new laptop also has a Power-over-eSata port (aka eSata+USB).

I have an HDD enclosure with both eSata and USB ports. I use a USB hub with a mouse, a tablet, and a bunch of charge and data cables (for mobiles etc.) hanging off it, so I don't really consider powering the enclosure from the hub a real loss of an additional USB port.

But I would also like to at least see a eStata/USB Y-cable, and here are the ones I've come across:

http://www.delock.com/produkte/grup...-_cable_USB_mini_and_eSATA_male_1m_84388.html

http://startech.com/item/ESATAUSBBO3-3-ft-eSATA-USB-to-eSATA-Male-and-USB-Female-Cable.aspx

That first one is ideal as far as I'm concerned (until the power-over-eSata enclosures become more widely available).

Cheers.

 

Amazon.com has both the cable as well as the dongle solution on sale from manufacturer Startech so no need to order from outside the US.

StarTech ESATAUSBBO3 eSATA+USB to eSATA Male and USB Female Cable (3 Feet) : http://www.amazon.com/StarTech-ESATAUSBBO3-eSATA-Female-Cable/dp/B00213KFBS/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1248128442&sr=1-2

StarTech ESATAUSBBO eSATA+USB Male to eSATA and USB Female Adapter: http://www.amazon.com/StarTech-ESAT...9?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1248128442&sr=1-9 http://www.amazon.com/StarTech-ESATAUSBBO-eSATA-Female-Adapter/dp/B0021AEF44/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1248128442&sr=1-9

 

What is a e-sata/usb combo port?
USB Port Pinout	<blockquote>1 Red 5 Volt 2 White Data - 3 Green Data + 4 Black Ground</blockquote>

The e-sata/usb combo port has 7 SATA pins on the top row, and the 4 USB pins are in the hole inserts. The cable that would connect to it would runs wires from the e-sata port, plus pin 1 and 4 of the USB to provide powered sata to the other end in a single cable, as some of the kits below provide.

HDD cables/enclosures

US$14 2.5“ Power Over eSATA enclosure / ebay +pics/benchmarks (Delock / HE-2521B)

US$12 2.5" eSATA/USB Combo Silicon Case

US$10 BYTECC USB/eSATA to SATA Cable

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US$25 SATA HDD to USB 2.0 port cable

US$20 eSATA-USB combo port cable

Optical drive cables/enclosures

US$11-delivered 12.7mm sata-to-USB enclosure	US$17-delivered 9.5mm sata-to-USB enclosure	US$50 Dell_E-Series 9.5mm external media module

US$14-delivered eSATA/USB to SATA

Misc cables

$US17 eSATA+USB to eSATA USB TD]

US$26 eSATA+USB to eSATA (3ft)

15euro esata Kabel

2.5" sata HDD versus sata optical drive sata connector - They are different.

 

but the other cable looks a lot cleaner

 

Thanks for the updates, but I'm still waiting for the DeLOCK #42465 enclosure, or a comparable - due to the features and options that I previously mentioned.

I did get a response back from my email to Delock. It came from their Taiwan office. They said I could order it directly from them, for $33 USD + shipping.

 

great thread

 

Has anyone in the US tried the delock enclosure or newmodus esata-usb combo kit?

I'm interested in the newmodus product but it's not clear whether or not the cable meets the shielding spec for esata. My laptop has marginal esata so I wouldn't want to make things worse if the power & data lines interfere in that combined cable. I also noticed that in the photo of the non-kit version of the cable, there are actually two separate cables attached to the plugs but in the kit version there is one cable. Neither look shielded in the photos but it's hard to tell.

 

so anyone found the holy grail of a single cable external 2.5 inch external drive solution out of these products ?

i just wanna stick in a nice 500GB external drive now an then for fast backups

 

I just today received the newmodus esata-usb kit. It is working fine so far with my dell 1340 notebook's combo port. The kit came with the single cable version as shown in the pic a few posts back. The cable is a lot more flexible than a typical 26AWG esata cable, so probably not shielded. But the cable is only .5meter, not the typical 1 meter esata cable, and so I think this avoids shielding/interference concerns (per the spec you can go up to .5 meter without the higher esata voltage requirements).

The plug on the drive side has two little red led power lights, which I hadn't seen noted anywhere. A nice touch.

 

thats sound perfect mate thanks for replying

al chuck in the fastest 500GB hard drive for rapid file transfers an back up while i figure out what sort of server to build

and your right a half meter cable is fine unshielded besides there error correction and being .5 meter and very flexible it will stow away nicely aswell!

 

I think the 7200rpm seagate momentus is the only choice if you want 500gb and performance. That's what I'm using now actually. (Jumpered to 1.5gbps because of nvidia mcp79 issues of course, grrr).

The cable was actually rolled up in the rubber "enclosure", so yes, plenty flexible.

 

I'm was looking for a eSATA enclosure that would connect to the combi-port of my SXPS16. Found the Delock 42465 which seems to be the only option right now if you exclude Y-cables and adapters. Anyone know how to source one of these in the USA ? Seems like there is no distribution here.

Are there any other enclosures available that take advantage of the combi-port ? Saw the newmodus mentioned but couldn't find any info on it -- any links to this ?

 

As I mentioned above, I did get a response back from my email to Delock from their Taiwan office. They said I could order it directly from them, for $33 USD + shipping. Unfortunately, I after investigating further, best-price shipping from them is $27 - almost as much as the enclosure! ($60 total).

Also mentioned previously by herrmo, it is listed on amazon.co.uk. 30.70 + 13.63 shipping = 44.33 GBP, or US $77.27 (no better than from Delock Taiwan).

I'll order this the minute I find a US distributor. I'm sure Delock wouldn't object to the extra business! Otherwise, maybe someone would buy a quantity of these from Taiwan, etc., and sell them individually from within the US on eBay, etc.

 

See post #22 and my posts on the newmodeus just a few posts back.

 

Shipping on the newmodeus set me back $4.95; grand total $29.69 with tax if you find the $1 coupon on their social networking web page

 

Thanks. I ordered the Newmodeus.com cable kit which should do the trick -- pretty psyched about have the 256GB SSD in the laptop and a 500gb HDD for backup and mass storage on the eSATA!

Once the Delock or something similar is available in the US I'll go that route, to better protect the drive.

 

I just received another email back from Delock. They sounded sincere about looking to supply with a U.S. distributor. I'll update again if I hear anything else back.

In the next day or so, I'll also edit my original post to summarize this thread. (Thanks for the suggestion, nando4!)

 

Short of the Delock, the Tagan Icy Box IB-266StUSD-B is a 2.5" eSATA enclosure which can be powered from USB. I have two. Works well. I just ordered a T400s and I think the days of my desktop are counted with the T400s being able to drive both my monitors...

 

... but not from a powered esata port, which is the point of this thread. There are plenty of 2.5" enclosures that can get power from a separate usb cable.

delock should get on board with newegg or zipzoomfly.

 

I myself ordered the eSATA-USB combo kit newmodeus. I can't comment on performance as I got a bad cable which is getting replaced of course but I like the rubber enclosure included with the cable. I think personally this is the best option.

 

I think I found a Canadian supplier for the combo cable: $15.00 cnd

USATA-136

It might be available from the mfg directly...

Byteccusa

USB/eSATA to SATA 7+15pin Cable, 36"

The NEWEST combined USB/eSATA cable easily converts your internal 2.5" Sata HDD or SSD external by connect it to any eSata or eSata + USB female port. Using your internal 2.5" Sata HDD or SSD as an external drive on any PC or MAC with external eSata or eSata + USB female port.



A customer from newegg reports that it worked with his E6500:

 

i also brought one from a seller from ebay selling eSATA-USB combo wit case too.

here's the link: http://cgi.ebay.com.sg/2-5-eSATA-US...C_Drives_Storage_Internal?hash=item1e59d91f47

i actually wan to get it from newmodeus, but now it didnt include the silicon case anymore. some more this ebay seller sell even cheaper than newmodeus wit silicon case.

 

Powered combo esata-esata/usb cable to use w/ USB/esata port & esata enclosure, $7: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812189206

2.5" eSATA/USB Combo SATA HDD/SSD External w/ Silicon Case, no enclosure needed, $12, ships from USA worldwide: http://cgi.ebay.com/2-5-eSATA-USB-C...C_Drives_Storage_Internal?hash=item1e59d91f47

 

Why not go for a proper enclosure?

http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=HE-2521B

It comes with the right cable, and works with my Envy with a single cable. I've got it sitting at home.

 

thats a nice case too and if you use a single backup drive it is perfect. The one's that Joe linked to above are nice if you have multiple backup drives that you rotate through. I have three HDDs that I rotate through for backups and simply plugging it into a cable is more convenient without an enclosure... run the backup, then put HDD back into its baggie and locked into my fire proof safe... next time I backup with the 2nd HDD and so forth.

 

Yes. But for a mobile combo-port, like a lot of people use for their external drives. I use mine for external storage in addition to what the laptop can hold, and this way it's just as fast as the internal drive.

 

yes, I understood that

 

This is the best alternative I've seen since the DeLOCK, and is the only other one I've seen that meets the requirements listed in this thread. It is also the only equivalent that I'm now aware of that is readily available within the US.

In fact, just looking at the images available, this appears identical to the DeLOCK #42465, at least in terms of the available ports and layout.

An added advantage this type of enclosure has over the different "cable-only" products being linked to is that this offers flexibility to connect via USB only (if no eSATA available), eSATA + USB (if no eSATA power or if more power is needed), or eSATA alone if there is sufficient power available on the combo port.

Can't even complain about the price! Nice find!!

 

Thank you for the link.

Looks likes an unbranded Delock. A few other stores are selling it in USA: HE-2521B. For people outside USA, check eBay with HE-2521B & Include title and description.

This seems to be the Taiwanese manufacturer's enclosure product page: Tragant International Co Ltd, Power Over eSATA products: "Brand Delock and Navilock".

 

Using Item #2, it appears that I could use a conventional 3 1/2" external SATA drive, without the power pin. Yes? Also, is there an issue with connecting an eSATA 1.5 port to a SATA 3.0 drive?

David D.

 

I ordered the HE-2521B off of Amazon this morning.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0036BISSQ/ref=oss_product

$1.00 more than the geeks.com one but same thing.

 

If you look at that listing, it is actually sold through Amazon by geeks.com