eSATA external hard drive enclosure that supports power from combo USB port?

The cheapest shipping available on geeks.com appears to be $12, vs. $8 on amazon.com or buy.com . Especially if one of those also drops their base price from $14 to $13, they'll definitely have a better deal than going direct.

 

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Well you can't blame him by the looks of you. Cro-magnon I presume?

 

The "product Includes:" says it does include "eSATA cable" . Have you varified that is is "Power eSATA cable"?

In anycase, please post your detail review.

I have Dell Precision M4400 having eSATA power port and I am also interested in this enclosure.

 

Not a detailed review, but I just received my HE-2521B from Amazon. The included eSATA cable is a combo cable, actually labeled "E-SATA + USB" on both ends. Tested it with my Latitude E6500 and a 250 GB 7200 RPM SATA drive (the original from my laptop before I upgraded it to 500 GB), and it works great.

 

Just to be super pedantic... you can plug the drive into the laptops esata port with the single-ended esata cable and *nothing* else... and it works?

 

Correct.

(Extra words here to get past "lengthen your message" filter.)

 

XOXO ordered from ebay.

 

This is the drive enclosure I got from Geeks.com that I linked to earlier in the thread, proving it's just an eSATAp cable lighting it up:



Here's a close-up of the cable's labeling:

 

XOXO Delivered from ebay and works a treat on my E6500.

 

I received my HE-2521B shipped to Costa Rica from ebay, it works great. Here are some photos & HD Tune benchmarks: Power Over eSATA vs. USB 2.0.













Thank you to ziesemer for starting this thread & all you guys that contributed.

 

So is this the best way to utilize the esata port on my Envy?Is Buying this enclosure and then buying an internal HDD better/cheaper than buying an Esata external HDD?

Thank you very much for any info.

 

It's not a question of savings, it a question of taking advantage of a Power Over eSATA port. I suggest you start at page #1 of this thread.

 

Just a quick response to tell that I acquired recently a Delock power over eSata 2,5" and it works perfectly on my Dell E4300. I guess it will work on all the Dell E serie laptops featuring a power over eSata port.
I put inside a 640Gb WD drive - I have not tried with larger one because they are just too expensive, but I have the hunch that the WD's 1To and 750Gb drives should fit (they are a little bit thicker than the norm - but check first if it would fit on the Delock's if you want to do this as I am not sure it will).
I bought it online on the French reseller www.pearl.fr and get it very quickly (4 working days in a pick-up store) for around 29€ with port (only 4€). They also sell in belgium and I think germany, but they are many other reseller in europe (but only a few per country - impossible to find for example in the computer stores hq of Paris in Montgallet street).
The only problem i had is that I couldn't manage to format my drive using eSata - Vista was giving me an error. So I had to do it via USB (almost 8 hours) and since no problem to access the drive via eSata. The only point is that the eSata cable is way more cumbersome than a usb cable and you have to really check that your cable is well connected if you experience some problems (maybe it was the key of my problem of formating via eSata, but I just did it the safe way as I was loosing to much time trying to make it work on eSata).
Otherwise the data rate is just perfect, between 2 and 3 time faster than USB, and the USB connection works perfect when linked to my LG's blu ray drive (LG BD390).

 

To be clearer, the point is to have an external eSata 2,5" that do not need 2 cables (eSata + USB) to work. As USB is the only plug that includes power supply, 99% of external 2,5" hdd are based on it (firewire do not include power as well).
As eSata do not normally include power supply, 99% of 2,5" eSata enclosures always needs two cables: 1 cable for eSata for the connection plus 1 USB cable for the power supply... which is not very interesting to use on small laptops (mine has only two: eSata/USB combo + USB - on the other side of the laptop!).
So with "Power-over-eSata" enclosures, you have connection + power supply on the same cable - so this is much more convenient. To what is discussed in this thread, currently two "Power-over-eSata" exists for 2,5" HDD, the one of Delock and a "no-name" one which seems to be exactly the same (but $10 cheaper) - but they are both difficult to find outside of online specialized shops.
If you plan to use a 3,5" hdd then it is another story as in that case your hdd drive will need an external power supply to work so in that case power-over-eSata is useless (USB 3,5" hdd will need as well external power supply).
Otherwise if you plan to buy a "ready-to-use" external 2,5 eSata HDD, to my knowledge only Verbatim is going to release a "power-over-eSata" external hdd drive - all the other models are not power-over-eSata (so you will need two cable). And anyway, building your hdd by yourself will be cheapest (but you'll need to know how to use a screwdriver... and format your hdd).

 

The new WD HDD 750GB WD7500BPVT 2.5" 9.5mm 5400 rpm is just out & the price is really affordable. 9.5mm thick just like a regular laptop HDD so it fits in the enclosure.

 

I found a dealer with the DeLock enclosures in The Netherlands, only €19,- which is much cheaper than on Ebay. I guess it's easier to get them in Europe?

 

Given that DeLock is a German manufacturer, I'd think so. At least the DeLock brand. There's still at least one rebrander for her in the US though, and even with shipping it's cheaper than your 19 euro enclosure once you convert currency

 

Just from my experience only. If you are looking for a Verbatim. I'll just about bet you it is being made by "DeLoock" or someone else and private labeled for them. I know of 2 people with Verbatim 2.5" portable hard drives and both have been horrible. They have WD hard drives and that seems fine, but whoever is making the controller is the problem. I would be cautious of this "Power over eSata" that is coming from Costa Rica or wherever. It would be good if someone was able to identify whoever is making the controllers for both the DeLock and the "No Name" brand. Could be different or could be the same.
Just a word of caution in reference to these "enclosures" as I felt I was getting a good buy with my Verbatim. Verbatim does not even touch the 2.5" portable hard drives that are sold under their name. Verbatim supplies no support for them either. I'm sure they are not the only ones though because if you think about it there are only what 5, maybe 6, hard drive manufacturers in the world. Probably 7, maybe 8, controller makers. One major internet supplier for portable hard drives had 16 different manufacturers on their website. FYI!!!

 

Any upcoming laptops with USB 3.0 /E-Sata 3.0 Combo Ports, one simple port on any laptop is all you need to future proof it..

 

One review says that the controller is a JMicron JM20316. Based off the first ten pages of Google results, this is the same controller used in many Roswill, Thermaltake, and Startech enclosures.

EDIT: Is the Startech S2510PESAT news to anyone?

 

here is one not on the list. its made by Lacie http://www.lacie.com/ca/products/product.htm?pid=11478

Oh, and hello from the Sager side. We have powered eSata too. Didn't even know it til recently!

 

Thank you for the link.

I find it ugly & bulky besides being $25 to $60 more expensive than the HE-2521B Power Over eSATA Enclosure with a 500GB Seagate Momentus or Hitachi 7200 rpm drive.

Besides it not as easy to crack open & swap the drive and the HE-2521B probably runs cooler as it's not encased in that awesome orange rubber.

 

To be even "clearer":

In a nutshell:
- eSATA does not provide any power, only data transportation. There is no such thing as a "powered eSATA".
- USB 2.0 can provide either: power alone (5v 500mA max, enough for a pocket HDD drive), data transport alone or power + data simultaneously.
- Power Over eSATA port is in reality 2 ports combined in one and is backward compatible with either: USB 1.1, 2.0 OR eSATA OR Power Over eSATA cable & enabled devices in which case the USB part provides power with the same specs as a normal USB port: (5v 500mA max) and data transportation @ the SATA transfer rates. 500mA is not enough to power 3.5" drives, that's why those enclosures still need their own power supply.
- For USB 3.0, the max power is 900mA: http://www.usb.org/developers/docs/





From this page found on The Serial ATA International Organization's website:

But reviews, notebook manufacturers and makers of "eSATA/USB two-in-one connector" compatible products are all mixing the names and not using the "two-in-one connector" thing. That's the fault of said SATA-IO organization who could not come up with a simple & marketable name.

Google Products: "Your search - eSATA/USB two-in-one - did not match any products".

There is a lot of confusion out there & it's difficult to find compatible products for it because there is so many ways of calling it:
- Power Over eSATA
- Power eSATA
- eSATAp
- eSATA/USB two-in-one
- eSATA/USB combo
- USB-eSATA combo
- eSATA/USB power
- eSATA combo port
- 11 pin USB/eSATA
- eSATA/USB port
- Etc!

 

Some implementations of the USB eSATA Hybrid Port also include a 12V rail on the outermost pins of the adapter which could power a 3.5" hard drive or even an optical drive.

http://www.addonics.com/emerging_technologies/euhp.asp

 

But the article you linked to says: "...As of today, SATA-IO organization has not finalized the Power Over eSATA standard" while the quote in the previous post from the SATA-IO official website says they abandoned the "Power Over eSATA" project.

Also from that addonics article: "All the EUHPs on the Notebook are of the 5V types and it can power most of the 5V type of devices such as external 2.5" hard drives...".

And yet, an other name to add to the collection above: "eSATA USB Hybrid Port (EUHP)".

Do you have any link to an actual laptop with a 12v eSATA/USB two-in-one port?

Here is a 5V/12V Power Over eSATA to SATA 22 pin HDD Adapter Cable on Fleabay but they clearly indicate that it's not compatible with notebooks.

 

I'm reasonably certain that laptops typically don't have 12V rails at all, so I don't think you'll ever see a laptop with that.

 

Has anyone found a good enclosure? I found this one, but it seems a little pricey/sketchy.

StarTech.com S2510PESAT - 2.5IN POWER ESATA TO SATA HDD ENCLOSURE

 

If you just read a few posts back you'd have the answer.

 

can the he-2521b accept 12.5mm 2.5 inch drives or only 9.5mm. And the site says 500GB maximum for the enclosure but there are 750GB 9.5mm drives wouldnt the 750's fit 100% for sure? I'm guessing the 1TB's wont.

 

Only the standard 9.5mm drives. But I'd guess that any 9.5mm drive that fits will run fine. That marketing blurb was written before the new bigger, low-profile drives were released.

 

Oh but I did read that. Nobody sells those. Everywhere is out of stock.

 

Yeah - the item is no longer on ebay, out of stock on both Amazon and Geeks.com

 

Yep, the eSATA/USB two-in-one port & enclosures are going the Betamax way. USB3 is the new kid.

Your link is cr@p. There is no ac adapter included. Search elsewhere for: Startech S2510PESAT. A big CAVEAT: the Power Over eSATA cable is NOT included. How stupid is that?

 

Haha the whole reason I posted that link is because i DON'T need a power adapter. Power over eSata cables are dirt cheap on eBay.

 

I may end up getting that enclosure and a 640gb samsung from newegg. I'm running out of drive space quickly and need someplace to move my file. I remember when a 60gb drive used to be HUGE. Now it's almost nothing.

EDIT: @bossier330 Just ordered the startech enclosure, a power esata cable and a 640gb samsung notebook drive from amazon/newegg. I'll report back once everything has arrived and I've connected the drive up. Fingers crossed

 

Hi, i just recently purchased a new laptop and it has one of these usb/esata ports. Right now its powering my usb speakers, however i was just curious about the effect of plugging my usb portable hard drive into there, would it be in anyway influenced by esata's faster data transfer speed? or would it just behave like a regular usb port?

doesn't really effect me, just curious

cheers.

 

Nope - it would be limited by the USB 2.0 speed.

 

Looks like dirt is pretty expensive in your part of the world. The point is that the description in your link is false as it says ac adapter included when it's NOT. Not that I want or need one. BTW you don't need an extra power source when using the enclosure in your eSATA/USB two-in-one port but you do NEED one when using the enclosure on an other computer which has only a regular eSATA port, either via an extra USB cable for power or with a A/C power adapter.

Cheapest Power over eSata cable I found on Fleabay is $9 shipped to Costa Rica + $45 shipped for the StarTech so that's on the pricey side for an empty enclosure. Other point was that it's stupid from Startech to sell a Power Over eSATA enabled enclosure w/o said cable.

HE-2521B was a better deal, cheaper & w/ cable. I regret buying only one as it works great.

The other point is: it's so difficult to get these enclosures because eSATA/USB two-in-one is fading away which is too bad as I like the flexibility. How will I connect my older external 3.5" HDD's in the new USB 3.0? I rather simply use a regular eSATA cable in my eSATA/USB two-in-one port.

Why not a 750 GB WD 9.5mm instead?

 

The 640gb was on sale on newegg through a promo deal and I had heard good things about Samsung's high-capacity drives. Needless to say that 1tb disks should be coming out soon at lowprices, so maybe in the future I'll get another disk .

I just hope that the enclosure I got works. I wish I had bought the HE-2521B when it was still in stock. A real shame...

 

So that's why they don't include the Power Over eSATA cable w/ the enclosure as they sell the cable for $34 + shipping here. What a ripoff.

 

Nevermind. I decided on a usb 3.0 enclosure.

 

Well the startech one is working fine, so that's another option for those of you who were curious

 

Did you run a benchmark on it?

 

Dear all,

Here are my test benchmarks

2.5" achieved 67MB/s connected via a notebook


3.5" achieved 90MB/s connected via desktop


(both setup are using 1.5Gbps SATA , not 3Gbps)

A little review/summary of eSATAp (Power over eSATA or eSATA + USB combo port)
1) You can retain your hardware investment. You don't need new expansive addon cards to use eSATAp NOR OS, drivers or BIOS tweak as compared to USB 3.0 or IEEE 1394 Firewire. For existing desktop users (with SATA)
Simply uses a bracket backplate to translate internal SATA, USB & 12V rail
More and more notebook have this combo port.
This means MACPro or any Pentium 4 users can also use eSATAp



2) a 12V rail esataP can power up a 3.5" HDD using only ONE cable.
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Note: a notebook only supply 5V rail, so may not be able to power up a 3.5" but I have yet to test 10V (with support from another USB)

3) eSATAp being an eSATA + USB combo is backward compatible with USB 2.0

4) eSATAp under 1.5GBps can at least guarantee you up to 3 times the speed over USB 2 at the least cost. This means a 72GB transfer takes about 20 mins as compared to 1 hour over USB 2.0. During this time, your system performance should not be affected too much as eSATAp has lesser overheads as compared to USB.

5) USB 3.0 ultimately is still dependendent on SATA (at HDD) end. eSATAp is basically externalised SATA. How fast your SATA goes, how fast it "should" go. Not to forget new hardware.

I personally hope more and more people can support this cool technology especially from where I come from. Asia (Singapore)

 

Here is a benchmark for the StarTech external enclosure and the Samsung_HM641JI 640GB 5400RPM hard drive.

 

Thank you mangosango for posting this.

Of note: he had to buy the Power Over eSATA cable separately as it's not included in the already relatively pricey StarTech S2510PESAT.

 

There was no screwdriver included with mine as well as no sata cable, only usb.

I have ordered 4 more of these in case they become unobtainable.

It is lighter than the other one, I like the feel of it.

 

I'm looking for a USB 3.0 / ESATA enclosure for a 2.5" laptop hard drive. Anyone have one or could recommend one ? I have both usb 3.0 and esata ports so i figured id get an enclosure which has both so i can kind future proof the enclosure...

 

Does anyone know if this hard drive case fits the requirements? It looks good from the description and looks a bit smaller than the ones mentioned in this thread. Or am I missing something?

SHARKOON External Enclosures Rapid-Case 2.5" Combo

I really like that company, they are based in Germany, but you can buy their stuffs unbranded usually in other places.