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    hibernate?

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by mystery905, Sep 30, 2014.

  1. mystery905

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    Do any of you hibernate Windows with your SSD?

    Is it okay to do this, or does this use up too much of the write cycles?
     
  2. RCB

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    Hibernate is useful in a business environment when you want to leave your desktop and documents open exactly as it was the last time you hibernated - a laptop of course! For mobility it works fine and should be considered an expense of doing business if needed. That said, you can save the space of 75% of installed RAM, that is how much space the hiberfil.sys file size is/wants.
     
  3. tijo

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    I disabled it on mine because 32 GB of RAM is a ton of space.
     
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  4. RCB

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    I don't use hibernate on mine either. But yeah - 32 G's gonna be monster file. Although Engineering Windows 7 says SSDs can use it efficiently. What that means exactly is not certain - but it probably gets wear-leveled the same as all other nand cells.


    OP - from a command prompt:
    POWERCFG -H OFF

    or POWERCFG -H ON
     
  5. HTWingNut

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    Just sleep. Unless you plan on shutting your laptop off for days at a time, then hibernate. But I'd turn it off. Sleep uses little to no disk space and is instant on exactly where you left off.
     
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    I hibernate due to my nanny school which blocks the youtube videos. I can prestart, then hibernate to play them through.
     
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    :confused:

    How does hibernate let you play youtube videos? When you hibernate your laptop is essentially turned off, because all RAM contents are written to the hard drive/ssd.
     
  8. Spartan@HIDevolution

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    Me too, I have 32 GB of RAM and 32 GB worth of SSD spae is a big waste. SSDs start up super fast anyway I never need hibernation although it was good back in the days of HDDs as Windows did startup faster with it.
     
  9. Krane

    Krane Notebook Prophet

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    Simple, the lockout prevents initial connection to the youtube. But a video that was initially running will continue to load and play from its hibernate state..
    Really? I hibernnate with with 68 tabs when I'm only going to be off line for an hour or a short time to relocate etc. Never even considered space or other issues.
     
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    I should probably mention that it is disabled on my Windows 7 drive, but not on my Windows 8 drive.
     
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    Yeah makes sense if you want to benefit from the Windows8 fast boot but I personally don't like it because when I do shut down I want a full shut down.

    Take this for an example....

    you install Windows 8, while having only one drive as that is the recommended method when installing Windows to prevent Windows from placing the boot files on your second drive...

    so you boot to the desktop for the first time, configure a few things, then shut down to add your second drive.....

    you add the second drive and start your computer......but Windows will not even see the 2nd drive until you give it another restart..... because it never really shut down it was a hybrid shut down due to the hibernation file....

    while this is a minor annoyance I must say, the fact that I disable it on Windows 8 is again simply because for the rate event where I want to shut down, I want a full shut down so when I start Windows everything is reloaded fresh

    just my 2 cents
     
  12. Krane

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    I couldn't agree more. Especially for long term system stability. Nevertheless, hibernate is a useful tool, when used appropriately.
    Speaking of disabled that's probably the case with my Sleep mode. I just ignored it because of the power drain so I don't even bother. I also fear it will come back on.

    A vestige from what used to always happen on my HDX. It would wake up from sleep and be on running super hot inside my backpack. No wonder my back was always so hot. :p
     
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    I couldn't get a solid answer out of this, I use hibernat a lot
    (3-5 times a day, sometimes even more)

    I have 8 gb of ram, 256 gb SSD
    Is my SSD in danger!?
     
  14. RCB

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    Depends on what you're doing it for?

    If it is just sitting on a desk all day and then hibernating after an hour of idle then you're adding writes for no good reason. Solution: have the display just turn off after elapsed time and/or when you close the lid have it set to "Do Nothing" which should turn off the display on closing. Further, don't even allow it to sleep.

    Use sleep whenever you need to move it a short distance and you have installed battery with sufficient charge.
     
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    No

    10chars
     
  16. Mr.Koala

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    In that case you can just use S3 sleep.

    Or find out how they're blocking YT and get around it.