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    how much modification is possible in my laptop

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by anubhav074, Jun 3, 2015.

  1. anubhav074

    anubhav074 Newbie

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    model :-hp apvilion g4 1303au
    processor:-amd a4 3330mx
    ram:-2gb
    sockettype:-fs1
    tdp:-35watt
    i want to upgrade my ram into 6gb by adding 4gb more ram
    also i want to upgrade 1 of my usb port into a usb 3.0
    and upgrade my processor into amd a8 3520m
    how much of the modification is possible in it.and please can any body tell me where can i find amd a8 3520m processor in india
     
  2. Kent T

    Kent T Notebook Virtuoso

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    USB ports not upgradable. A8 processor might be doable. RAM probably can be upgraded by 4 GB.
     
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    StormJumper Notebook Virtuoso

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    Put this way Anything AMD CPU forget about upgrading....sell it and get iNtel that would do more to improve performance all the way around.
     
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    Not quite.
    It depends on what he wants to use it for... and considering that his current APU only has 2 cores, I think he'd benefit quite a lot from an upgrade to a better APU on both the CPU and GPU front.

    FS1 is a bit outdated, but I think this APU is the best that can fit inside:
    AMD A8-3550MX, though it would seem that A8-3500M might be a better option.
    You might have to check more to see whether it might be possible to slap inside a better APU though (something of Richland variety perhaps - though this is doubtful as it uses an altered FS1 socket).

    For RAM... yes I think upgrading to 8GB should be doable... but I think you need to focus on getting not just more RAM, but one that has lowest latencies and relatively high speed (AMD APU's love this kind of RAM).

    Another noteworthy upgrade you could do would be to get an SSD.
    You can extract the HDD and use it externally in an enclosure for storage, while the SSD can be used for Windows, installed programs and games.

    I don't know where in India you could get a better APU, though have you considered using EBAY for that?
    There is a A8-3500M there that can be shipped from the USA to India for instance.
     
  5. anubhav074

    anubhav074 Newbie

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    but i think for installing intel in my motherboard i have to change the whole motherboard and i dont think this is a safe side ,besides if i want to do that which board should i prefer which can fit in my laptop
     
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    I would suggest to sell what you have and buy a new(er) platform if you can.

    The level of performance this system offers (even upgraded) does not inspire me to spend any $$$ on it.

    See:
    http://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=35&cmp[]=1871

    The overall cpu performance will more than double if the suggested apu can be switched successfully.

    But note that the single threaded performance increases by mere single digits (~7%)...

    This platform is drastically underpowered, is RAM starved and would benefit from an SSD immensely.

    The final result though will not be worthy of the components bought to see this increase in usability (which is not the same thing as an increase in performance).

    The RAM might be the only thing I would upgrade if you can't buy a new(er) platform on this system. But even then, all that will do is try to mask the underpowered platform it is put in.
     
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  7. anubhav074

    anubhav074 Newbie

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    please tell me in simple words i cant understand the things you mentioned about ram.by your msg i am only understanding that if the processor is being succesfully fitted in my laptop then its performance will be more than double but its single threaded performance is not much increasing after that i dont understand clearly what are you trying to tell me
     
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    i has m11x Notebook Evangelist

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    He's saying it's not worth it to upgrade components. You would be better off buying a new laptop. Upgrading the ram probably won't help much. SSD would be the best upgrade but even then it's better to just sell it.

    Edit: Don't buy an SSD, ram would help but it's best to find something else like tiller said.
     
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    sell your laptop and buy a new one.

    Sent from my VS980 4G using Tapatalk
     
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    anubhav074 Newbie

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    i dont want to sell the laptop,i was just asking whether is it possible to get a good prcessor in this laptop for example AMD A10-4600M which is also a fs1 socket processor
     
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    I understand about keeping the old system. What I am trying to convey is that it is not worth to spend any more money on it (especially if you need this system to keep working and you will be experimenting on upgrading parts like the cpu for the first time...).

    Btw, the link you provide would give worse single thread performance (~13% worse...) than what he has now for the privilege of paying $24 too... Sure, in a higher load workflow, it will be faster - yet, it will feel slower too for 'responsiveness' in simple things like navigating the O/S.

    Buying RAM for the system will be the single most bang for the buck upgrade you can do for this obsolete platform. With matched RAM sticks, the real world usability will be as high as it possibly can (2x 4GB recommended, if possible - check your O/S supports it). A RAM upgrade will optimize the performance possible from this system (cpu+ram=work done).

    An SSD will not increase performance - it will only increase responsiveness/snappiness of a few select items, but the performance of the system will not increase one iota.

    The APU the OP wants ( A10-4600M) would be a significant upgrade over their current setup, but I have no idea if it is possible (or what the cost is). Either way, without also maxing out the RAM on the system, it is not likely that the maximum performance will be seen, even from this chip.
     
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    That newer processor might be not supported in the OP's socket. The main thing that the OP doesn't say is his/her budget. Or what kind of things he/she does with that laptop.
     
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    RAM doesn't have to be matched pairs, 2GB + 4GB will be fine. Matched pairs will give about a 5% performance boost with integrated GPU, but not noticeable for regular processing. But might be worthwhile to check the speed of the RAM, if it's just 1066MHz, because the CPU supports 1333MHz, and getting fast 1333MHz (well probably have to buy 1600MHz, but will work at 1333MHz) 2x4GB will render a slightly improved system. If it's already decent 2GB 1333MHz RAM then just buy a decent 4GB stick. Whatever you do buy a decent name brand though.

    Also, SSD would help. A cheap SSD would help immensely. One of my kids' laptops has an AMD quad core Llano CPU and it had a 5400RPM hard drive, and I popped in a spare 240GB SSD and the difference was pretty significant, especially boot times, and load times, and general use.

    For CPU unless your workload is multitask intensive, the quad core might not give you much better improvement than what you're used to. If you use Windows 8.1 then it might be better optimized than Windows 7. But again, as mentioned, what's your budget? AMD A8 $24 + 4GB RAM $27 + 240-256GB SSD $90 (recommend Crucial) will run you about $140-$150US assuming pricing is same in India.
     
  15. kent1146

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    Sell your laptop and get a new one.

    Edit: But in all seriousness, the best upgrade you can possibly make for your laptop is an SSD. Don't bother upgrading your CPU, since you'd be throwing money at a dying platform. Getting an SSD today will make your computer feel much "snappier" and "zippy" in just about everything you do, except gaming framerates.

    When you save up enough money, sell (or give away) your current laptop, and buy a new one. When dealing with laptops (unfortunately), the only real way to get a large bang-for-your-buck is to spend it on new CPU, GPU, and display technology. Upgrading an old and outdated platform doesn't really help.

    And when you eventually do buy a new laptop, an SSD that you buy today can easily be re-used in a future computer system.
     
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