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    i5 430m overheating

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by irritablevegetable, Feb 26, 2011.

  1. irritablevegetable

    irritablevegetable Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hey all,

    I have a Samsung R580 JSB-1US and I seem to have a problem with overheating with this notebook. I believe it is due to the fact of turbo boost. During the first few months of my possession of this notebook, there were no instances of overheating and then during December, this problem occurred. I am a gamer and also render a lot of videos, so when I rendered videos, the laptop would shut off. I knew this problem was due to overheating and read on a forum that turning off turbo boost would solve the trick. I went into the BIOS and turned off Intel Speedstep, this caused my computer to have a maximum of 1.2 ghz. I have been having this setup for quite some time until a few weeks ago when I realized that I was not fully utilizing my processor speed. So, I experimented and looked at a few forums and I found out that if I go into the power options and put my processor maximum to 99% turbo boost is not enabled. This means that instead of 1.2ghz, I would get 2.27 ghz - I have an i5-430m. The temperature readings I got off core temp were a maximum of 85 degrees celsius, however with turbo boost enabled it reached around 100 degrees a matter of minutes when doing a processor test in Windows Experience Index. I heard that 90 degrees and above is detrimental to the laptop's hardware and 100 degrees - thats just boiling water! So, my question is how can I prevent further overheating yet still turn on turbo boost? I want to use the most out of my processor and still get the best bang for the buck.
     
  2. Judicator

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    Have you tried cleaning out your notebook vents? If it worked fine for the first few months, and only afterwards started to overheat, there's a fair chance that your vents and heatsink are clogged with dust, which means it isn't dissipating heat as well as it used to, which leads to the overheating.
     
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    No I haven't tried that, how would I go about doing it?
     
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    Well unfortunately, from the looks of it, the R580 isn't easy to take apart, so you probably won't be able to do as thorough a job as would be best, but I would recommend opening up the RAM panel, and then blowing backwards through the vents (in the opposite direction of how the air would normally go) with compressed air. If you feel confident enough to take off the entire bottom plate, that would probably be best; that way you can get the compressed air directly at the fan and heat exchanger vents to clean off any dust there, as well as being able to hold the fan still to prevent any possible damage.
     
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    What is your ambient room temperature? Core i series processors tend to run hotter, they are the same TDP as their older Core 2 relatives due to the IGP.

    Are you still under Samsung's warranty? Unfortunately they don't have much ASP support, if you are under their warranty most likely you will have to RMA it.

    If you aren't under their warranty I would consider stripping it apart and cleaning everything out and repasting it.
     
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    you'll have to open the laptop to see if the cpu is attached to the heatsink and has thermal paste between those two. Then you'll have to check your fan to make sure it works fine. Then you need to check your OS for any processes that may keep the CPU busy for some strange reason, thus causing it to heat up. Then you may look into updating your BIOS, and/or programs that may control the speed of the fan on your laptop. And finally look into undervolting the cpu itself.

    reaching 100 deg C for the CPU is insane.

    For comparison at continues max load over my laptop (both CPU and GPU at 100% with second one overclocked by a lot) in room temperature my cpu maxes at ~65 deg C (the GPU goes degree or two more) and that's it, but I'm past all those steps above. Good luck
     
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    All right, I took a gas duster and cleaned the vents thoroughly. Now, the temperatures have dropped from 100+ with turbo boost on to 2.53 ghz to 88 degrees max. However, when I play games with fraps on I get visible drops in framerate which I did not get before when I had 2.27 ghz. Does this mean that the chip is downclocking automatically? When I play games and record at the same time the chip is at about 75 degrees. Hmm... I'm not too sure how to address this problem. Some help?
     
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    I would try to take it apart and get it repasted with new thermal paste. See if your local hardware people can do it.

    For reference my i5-430m runs at about 66-70C at 3.1GHz so your temps are definitely too high.
     
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    88C is still a little too high for me. As stated above, I would look at the service manual and repasting it.
     
  11. irritablevegetable

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    I really think that is unnecessary, that is the maximum it has ever reached. Usually it reached 75-80 when rendering and when playing games its in the 60's. So nothing to worry about temp wise, im asking another question.
     
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    Were you running FRAPS before with the 2.27 GHz? FRAPS tends to be really heavy on resource usage, and tends to result in framerate drops in and of itself, so if you weren't running FRAPS before, FRAPS is probably what is causing your framerate drops now.
     
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    I was running Fraps before, with no drops in framerate.