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    i7 2670QM or i7 2720QM?

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by ken-ywk, Sep 21, 2011.

  1. ken-ywk

    ken-ywk Newbie

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    May I know which processor is better? i7 2670QM or i7 2720QM? since the clock speed is the same but turbo boost different..
     
  2. asdalavisa

    asdalavisa Newbie

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    I would automatically sat the i7 2720QM, as a biased opinion, because i am ordering it with my new laptop. And that is also right. I have looked up on the specs, and the differences are; higher clock, it has VT-d virtualization, has a higher inbuilt graphics clock, is newer than the 2670QM, and it also has higher model number :p
    Hope i helped.
    BTW get the 2720QM, unless there is a massive price difference.
     
  3. Deks

    Deks Notebook Prophet

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    The 2670QM should be clocked the same like 2720QM and it's actually newer than the latter because it is based on the SB refresh.
    I'm not sure about higher clocked integrated gpu or VT-d functions though.

    If the 2670QM is missing some features that the 2720QM has and you need them, then go for the 2720QM.
    Otherwise, the 2670QM should do fine
     
  4. fred2028

    fred2028 Sexy member

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    I'd say 2720QM unless there's a massive price difference. Base speed and cache size are the same, however the 2720QM has a higher turbo speed.
     
  5. Botsu

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    The premium you'll pay for the 2720qm is probably not worth it.
     
  6. DEagleson

    DEagleson Gamer extraordinaire

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    Intel made the i7 2670QM to replace the i7 2630QM and i7 2760QM replaces the i7 2720QM.
    But its still just a overclocked cpu, they dident actually add anything new to them so if you need the advanced features of the i7 2720QM and upwards go for that.
    If its just for gaming then the i7 2630QM & i7 2670QM is more than enough.

    We dont live in the GHz days of Pentium 4 anymore. :3
     
  7. ThomasOtt99

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    In my opinion, the extra cost of the 2670QM vs. 2720QM is not justified unless . . .

    1) You need more than 16GB of RAM (2720QM can use 32GB) or
    2) Your workplace is a HIGHLY secured and requires high-level security needing the Intel V-Pro that only comes with the 2720QM

    The speed between the two chips is so close you will need a benchmark program to actually see the difference. (Unless, of course, you are using 32GB of RAM.)

    My recommendation is to speed the extra money (approx. $150.) upgrading the standard RAM from 6GB to 12GB. The extra speed of the processor (in Turbo mode only) will most likely not be noticed if your RAM is standard configuration. Depending on your application, the 2670QM with 12GB of RAM would easily outpace the 2720QM equipped with 6GB of RAM.

    I hope this helps.
     
  8. Generic User #2

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    you are asking, by default, that means you should go with the cheaper cpu.
     
  9. Vipervlv

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    I would go with the 2720QM as it supports faster RAM (1600 Mhz).
     
  10. ramgen

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    How much would that affect real-life scenarios? If it gives you 2% increase in benchmarks but nowhere else, it is still worthless...


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  11. tilleroftheearth

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    The 2720QM is the better cpu period.

    That is all the OP asked.

    Whether it is 'worth it' depends on his/hers usage scenario, the price difference between the two cpu's in a specific configuration and also whether the OP has a budget (or not) to work/stay within.

    None of that changes the fact that the 2720QM is still the better/faster/more feature rich (on an absolute scale...) processor vs. the 2670QM model version.
     
  12. Geos1

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    If you have the money for 2720 why not buy 2760? That would be an excelent decision.
     
  13. Vipervlv

    Vipervlv Notebook Enthusiast

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    2760QM - if is avaible for the OP or if the money are issue - 2720.
     
  14. SlickDude80

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    the 2720 is so cheat now on ebay...less than $200 shipped.
     
  15. gull_s_777

    gull_s_777 Notebook Consultant

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    2720QM is definitely better with much more complete set of features....
     
  16. ilbbq

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    Intel Core i7 2720QM 2.2 GHz / 3.3Ghz L3 6 MB
    Intel Core i7 2670QM 2.2 GHz / 3.1Ghz L3 6 MB

    Both the same Performance.

    The only 2 differences is the 2670 is recently released and it can support more memory up to 16GB while 2720qm has more turbo boost and support memory up to 8 GB
     
  17. mtneer

    mtneer Notebook Consultant

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    I am sure you have gotten it backwards...

    Intel® Core? i7-2720QM Processor (6M Cache, 2.20 GHz)

    states the i7 2720QM is capable of supporting up to 32GB memory.

    Actually, the 2670QM can support only 16GB of memory.

    Intel® Core? i7-2670QM Processor (6M Cache, 2.20 GHz)
     
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    ilbbq Notebook Enthusiast

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    It's a no brainer, when all 4 cores are used the 2720qm turbos only 200mhz more and costs an extra $100 per 100mhz. That's just wasting money. 2760 vs 2670 is a different story, you're more likely to notice a difference in performance there.
     
  20. HTWingNut

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    2630QM and 2670QM supports 1600MHz RAM despite what Intel's site says. Verified by many Sager and Asus owners. In any case, RAM speed will make no difference in performance, 1066, 1333, or 1600 for 99.99% of what you do.

    2670QM is all you will need. If you do lots of video/audio encoding then a faster CPU might benefit you, but between the 2670QM and 2760QM you're probably talking 10% time improvement at best. So 6 minutes out of 60 minutes of video.
     
  21. tilleroftheearth

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    Just want to counter the people that say there will be no improvement to the 2720QM - I'll agree, as long as the features the 2720QM (and 2760QM) has and the 26xx Series processors don't are not needed.
     
  22. HTWingNut

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    Right, that was mentioned. Basically VT-d virtualization (direct hardware access from VM), V-Pro, and TXT.

    Compare Intel® Products

    If you don't know what those are, you don't need them. Most people don't need these unless they're a developer or in a business that requires them, but usually those laptops are provided by the company anyhow.
     
  23. TydalwaVe

    TydalwaVe Newbie

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    I have a question about which processor I have installed in my new HP Envy 17. When I purchased the laptop it said i7-2670QM 2.2, and in the Windows Device Manager, it says i7-2670QM. But when I downloaded Core Temp and CPU-Z, it shows i7-2720QM. In Windows Device Manager the driver is from 2006 so dunno what to think. Also when right clicking My Computer it shows it there as an i7-2670QM 2.2. What gives? Thanks in advance!
     
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    Yeah, CPUz and Core Temp is simply behind the times. :)

    I am almost 100% sure you bought and paid for an i7 2670QM and are enjoying it now. :)
     
  25. TydalwaVe

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    That I am! My desktop is a Q9650 @ 4.3 8 gigs of GSkill 1066 @ like 11-- Asus 5870 EAH v2, and just love my desktop performance. But I must say, this laptop SCREAMS! It boots in less than 30 seconds, I can play BF3 like my desktop ( have to lower settings to LOW mixed with some HIGH ) but it plays it! From what I read on the Compare Intel Products site, the 2670QM is newer than the 2720QM, seems odd in the naming scheme. Anywho, thanks for the quick reply!
     
  26. Jarhead

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    @OP: The 2670QM will be more than enough for you. As someone else has already said, if you have to ask, you don't need the extra features of the 2720QM.

    What in the world are you talking about? My computer runs fine on the 2720QM + 12GB RAM....

    It's not odd, since the 2720QM is an older chip (replaced by the 2760QM), whereas the 2670QM is just a refresh of the 2630QM. The only thing that makes these chips 'new' is that Intel took the 2630QM and 2720QM and overclocked them slightly.
     
  27. TydalwaVe

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    Ah thought I read earlier that someone said the 2670QM replaced the 2720QM, is why I meant that was odd in the "going backwards" in the numbers. What kinda gets my goat is the 2670QM only supporting 1066 and 1333 while the 2720QM supports up to 1600. Although from reading there doesn't seem to be a HUGE difference in 1333 to 1600? Correct me if I'm incorrect in that. Thanks in advance!
     
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    There's not a noticeable difference between 1333MHz and 1600MHz. Just like the difference in the mentioned processors, the only way someone could notice is to run benchmarks, which aren't accurate representations of real-life usage.

    The two things you'll obviously notice without any doubt are HDD v SSD and low-res v high res displays (768p on a 15" is garbage, but 1080p on a 15" is beautiful).
     
  29. HTWingNut

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    ^^^^^^

    Listen to this jarhead! :p He's spot on...
     
  30. TydalwaVe

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    This doesn't have an SSD, but it has two 500Gigs in Raid-0. Seems pretty fast. I'm really enjoying this upgrade from my last Toshiba with a 8700GT-M. Thanks a ton for your posts :D
     
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    Jeebus HTWINGNUT! 17k posts? The time, the devotion in helping others in need lol...i'm gonna have to rep you just for that :D
     
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    16,000 are spam though... :eek:
     
  33. helmeston

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    2670qm, The performance difference should be minimal, when it was 2630qm vs 2720qm, people were saying to get the 2630qm because the gain was really little, now , the diffence between the 2670 and the 2720 is even smaller, and except if you need to geet 1866mhz ram (because of kingston hyper x ram, if you can handle 1600mhz, you can pick 1866mhz overclocked from them ( pre-overclocked) and if you can support 1333mhz, you can pick 1600mhz overclocked ) so except you need super fast ram, pick the 2670qm.
     
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    just wondering is the 2670qm with the 6770m gpu good?
     
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    For pretty much any current game, yes. GPUs are a PITA to replace, so upgrading to the best bang-for-your-buck GPU is a good idea.

    However, if your spending your "extra money" on upgrading to the 2670qm, consider dropping it to the stock i5 and upgrading the display instead. You'll notice the difference between 1366*768 v 1920*1080 (or even 1600*900) than you would between the dual i5 and quad i7. Even the most intensive RTS games (which are mostly CPU-bound) will work perfectly on stock processors.

    A user will notice the display and the storage speeds (HDD v SSD) long before they notice the difference between CPUs. If I were you, I'd spend my extra money with a priority as so:

    display <> GPU > SSD (cheaper aftermarket) > RAM (cheaper aftermarket) > CPU
     
  37. juanito9917

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    well see the 2670 and the 6770 both came stock I couldn't downgrade those two options but I could have upgraded them but I choose not to after doing some research I thought that they would be good. I did upgrade my display to 1080 the stock one only went to 900 and it came with stock 8gb of ram I know the thing that is keeping my wei down is the hdd's that it came with it has 1TBx2 hdd's @5400 I was thinking about getting an ssd to replace the primary I think if I did that the score would go way up
     
  38. dsottum

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    Any WEI scores I've seen on at least decent systems are bottlenecked by their mechanical HDD transfer rate. My desktop's old GTS 250 has a better score than its 7200rpm sata II HDD does.
     
  39. juanito9917

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    that is why I was saying I was thinking of getting an ssd that runs sata III to replace my primary hdd
     
  40. Saucey

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    I got a deal on 2540m for $100 bucks. Should I take it or just wait for a 2630qm or 2670qm? What are good prices for the i7s?
     
  41. juanito9917

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    well wat do you like to do on your laptop?

    that cpu doesn't look like that bad of a deal but it depends wat you use your laptop for
     
  42. Saucey

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    Normal everyday stuff.
    I run alot of programs at the same time and do some gaming and editing.
    The i3 isn't giving me the response I need.
    I upgraded to 8gb of ram hoping that would be enough.
    Planning on installing a SSD for booting purposes and for a couple of programs.
     
  43. juanito9917

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    if you run alot of programs at the same time then an i7 would be better for you as it has 4 cores all able to run 2 threads at a time and if you play rts games which rely on mostly cpu then an i7 is great if you play mostly other types of games like bf3 or mw3 they rely mostly on gpu so either cpu is good enough and as far as prices I don't know wat is good for the i7's