looking for a future notebook with amd 45nm on it

I'm not ruling out intel, but i'm hope'ing that in a few months that amd will have a notebook with thier newest 45nm chipset, puma i beleive, and make the price range of notebooks go down. I'm currently shooting around $1500 for a notebook with the best graphics and as best chipset as possible.

My latest notebook i was looking to buy was: SAGER NP5793 intel T8100 Geforce 8700GT for $1600 but that's w/o an OS (so $100 more) or ASUS M50SV-B1 T8100 Geforce 9500M GS for $1500

Now i'm wanting to wait a few months for the new amd chipset to come out so I can get an amd system with even better graphics, such as the 8800 or maybe if nvidia comes out with the 96xx series out around then.

other options i really want 802.11N, HDMI port, monitor 17" but 15" is fine, blueray drive, but w/o is fine with all current burner options.

What's the news out there so far?

 

According to the AMD roadmap posted around the web, we won't see 45nm cpus until "Black Swift" in 2009. The "Lion" units that debut in the summer will still be 65nm......

 

well the current one is the turion-64 x2, so what's the next step in amd notebook that's actually decent? i thought it was the puma.

 

Correct, the Puma platform is the next step, but it will be coupled to 65nm Griffin/Lion (whatever codename) processors.

Here is the roadmap (article in German):

http://www.computerbase.de/news/har...bruar/neue_roadmap_amds_notebook-prozessoren/

 

So anyone have an idea if the turion zm-86 is compared to intel's high end, not comparing to thier quad chip, since it's wayy up thier in the price range?

 

here's a video of what I found on the puma notebook. This was what i was talking about. Any idea on when this may come out?
http://www.hexus.tv/category.php?cat=36

 

first of all, dont believe it, it is total bs.
How can the same intel and amd system use the same battery, and components.
Their is no way, that the intel system takes more than 2 x as long as the amd system.
A penryn based system would bloaw away any griffin processor. They are probably using an old intel celeron based system, with a integrated intel chipset, in order to skew the performance of the system.
They should have showed a zoom in of a cpu-z and gpu-z, with the camera.
This way we would knoe if their lying.
Since they do not mention or prove any of the system components, this is just bs.
Plus we all know that the AMD or intel could be plugged in, cause they do not show us the unoccupied power ports.

Dont believe it, the amd mobile processors have been terrible, and most likely will continue to fail.
I wanted an AMD, and i got a powerful AMD, a sever based opteron. Their old opteron line is faster than their latest quad cores, and the turion just suck compared to any intel solution.

Dont wait on this technology, cause its bs.

K-TRON

 

Isn't the marketing guy said the second quarter of this year, like 5-6 times???

 

LoL, before you jump to conclusions. He is comparing the 780M chipset along with the new HD3200 integrated GPU. Read the review of the desktop version here to get an idea why it is so much faster...
http://www.tomshardware.com/2008/03/04/amd_780g_chipset/page10.html
So, yeah no wonder it was 2x faster than the Intel platform which naturally use the X3100 GPU. Nothing to do with the cpu, everything to do with the platform(integrated GPU's).

As for as the Opteron comparison, you do realize that in single cpu systems they are the same architecture meaning your Opteron will perform the same as the Turion at the same clock speed/caches.


soul45man
If you are waiting on for cpu performance, then dont. The Griffin update will most likely be small. The core will still be based on the K8...so no real performance improvement on what we are seeing now. However if you are in the market for a low end integrated GPU notebook, then the Puma might be competitive. However Intel should also release the Montevina with new chipset/GPU's around the same time.

 

Yes, it is so obvious why the AMD destroyed the Intel laptop. They are using integrated graphics, and AMD's is equivalent to the HD3400 series, and Intel's graphics are still terrible.

Its bad enough Intel cult members bash AMD, an AMD owner shouldn't I don't bash Intel products, but I don't like their business strategy, because without AMD, Intel would still be making PIIIs at 800Mhz cpu. Intel is big and rich and most important to them is time to market and flashy specs, compared to AMD's efforts to be elegant and efficient about computing to advance technology.

From the Toms Hardware article it was important to note that OEMs have the option to add the discrete memory, but they don't have to, because it can be shared. So when looking for these make sure it has discrete video memory.

 

The only reason why intel's integrated graphics can do anything is that the driver gives the CPU part of the load via software rendering. A CPU intensive game like HL2 EP2 would run into problems because the driver's software rendering causes a bottleneck on the CPU. That results in the slowdown you see in the video.

For the performance, I'd expect puma to score in the 1300-1500 range in 3dmark 06. Intel's predicting 1100 for their new integrated graphics (a faster version of x3100) so puma is above average for its generation, but not nearly as special as this demo makes it seem.