qosmio X75 SSD upgrade

i am going to buy toshiba qosmio X75-A7295 .. there have 1TB HDD but i am not sure. is that one HDD or Two HDD. but before i buy i want to add one SSD and also want to move OS on that SSD. and that laptop imported from USA (the sales man said) by the way i am not going to buy from toshiba vendor.. that general laptop shop...

i already ask toshiba forum about it but never get respons yet..

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i am not sure i think i can not add SSD now. because there have two hard disk already. so if i want to add SSD inside then i will need to take of one HDD.. am i right ? if i am right. then i think i can add one 1TB hard and one SSD....  am i right ? 
 
and how i make my SSD as primary drive... 
 
i want to also which brand HDD and SSD i can install there. 

 

For a gaming laptop, a better choice would be something like a Clevo or Alienware, or even an Asus or MSi. Toshiba's quality is a bit iffy, even for a consumer-class laptop.

If the system only has two 2.5" drive bays and it doesn't have an mSATA or M.2 slot, then yeah, you'll have to take one of the drives out and replace it with the SSD. You can replace and add in whatever drive you like, so long as it's 2.5" and it's the right height (typically 9.5mm).

If you want the OS on the SSD, just install the OS on the SSD (and make sure you format the other drive on the laptop if it has the OS on it as well).

HHDs are pretty mature now, so you should be fine with any of the brands: Western Digital, Seagate, Toshiba, etc. As for SSDs, I'd only look at ones from Crucial, Samsung, or Intel and ignore the others due to not having as great a reliability record of the mentioned SSD brands.

 

thank you so much for your kind and details reply...Toshiba forum also replied also.. thanks....

actually i am not gammer.. i never play any game on my laptop... my laptop is open 24hrs... and i do mostly web design. so always photoshop, dreamweave, and lot of browsers always open ....

what do you think about bellow two system for me

Toshiba Qosmio X75-A7298 Laptop this ?

or MSI G Series Notebook 17.3 Inches GS70 2OD-097MY (Window8, Stealth, MSI Warranty) - Buy at Best Price from iPmart Malaysia ... both almost same price...

 

If you're not gaming, I have no idea why you're looking at gaming laptops like the Qosmio or G series... Or any gaming laptop at all.

For that sort of money, you'd be much better off with a workstation-class laptop like the Dell Precision series, Lenovo Thinkpad W series, or HP Elitebook -w series or ZBook series. At least the Quadro/FirePro GPUs in those laptops would be much better for your Photoshop work than something like a GeForce (due to nVidia gimping the 6xxM and newer GeForces in OpenCl/OpenGL/CUDA).

 

actually my first demand is 17inch laptop.... so hard to get 17inch laptop and budget issue too.. i saw MSI have some nice workstation but out of budget. so any suggestion.

 

Well, when it comes to displays, screen resolution is more relevant than the physical screen size. 1080p 15.6" will show exactly the same thing as 1080p 17.3".

You could perhaps check out OEM-refurbished 17.3" workstations (like the Dell Precision M6600 or HP Elitebook 8760w) if you're dead-set on 17.3", but for new laptops you're better off with the 15.6" workstations. The features of a gaming laptop aren't really going to help you and your wants/needs.

 

thank you so much for your nice and helpful reply... can you do something for me .. if you can. i already post that in adobe forum but not get response.. i actually want to see 15.6 full HD screen 1080p and 17.3 inch full HD 1080p photoshop screenshot.. then i can compare how much work space i will get... i am actually using 17inch laptop since 2006 .. its toshiba.... resoltion is 1440px.

this is that post link Adobe Community: looking for photoshop screenshot different resolution ...

i am also not living in USA so hard to get all model.. but i am searching now then model you said...

 

If the resolution is the same on both monitors (1080p) it doesn't matter the size of the monitor - they will show exactly the same image.

 

so its mean if 15.6 inch laptop FullHD (1920 x 1080) and 17.3 inch (1920 x 1080) ... i will same workspace ? my current resolution 17inch laptop with 1440x900 .... so it mean 15.6 inch 1600 x 900 more workspace than my current 17inch laptop ?

i have one question... if 15.6 and 17.3 inch 1080p laptop will same amount workspace when why we buy 17.3 inch....

 

Yes, that is exactly what it means (resolution is the only determining factor in how much 'workspace' is displayed).

Why buy a 17.3" notebook vs. a 15.6" system?

For potentially higher performance if the cooling system is maximized for the larger size and the system has a bigger/better/faster cpu.

For potentially higher performance if the larger system offers more drive bays.

For potentially higher performance if the system offers triple SLI, etc..

For potentially higher performance if the system offers more RAM slots.

For potentially higher performance for the user; if the eyesight is not as good as it used to be.

For potentially running a desktop cpu for full/max mobile performance; depending on what the manufacturer offers in terms of processors and M/B's.


For the sheer joy of saying 'mine is bigger than yours'...



But unless the 17.3" notebook offers more resolution... the workspace 'size' will not be a deciding factor simply based on 'inches' of display.


Take care.

 

Because on a 1920x1080 15.6" everything is smaller. 17.3 inches is more tolerable, but working in Photoshop, Audacity, Blender or any other editing program for a prolonged period of time on a Full HD 15.6" laptop can make your eyes hurt like hell (can also cause headaches).

 

thank you so much.. for your details and nice answer... it;s really help me...

actually now i am confuse what system i should take.. my budgect 1500-1700US$ .. i want big work space laptop with good amount ram... as i am not living in USA .. my choose limited.. i am stay in malaysia... i never get all version... i mail to dell for Dell Precision.. let see what they said..

anyother recommand for me ?

i got in my budgect Toshiba Qosmio X75-A7295 Laptop , Toshiba Qosmio X75-A7298 Laptop ...HP Envy 17, Dell Inspiron 17R . some MSI model.. more MSI expensive than toshiba even MSI hardware config bellow than toshiba...



i told already i am web designer and developer.. so all time i user photoshop cs6, dreamweaver, illustrator, and lot of browser window together... and mostly my laptop on 24hrs....

so what system good for me in my budgect what do you think ?

 

The PPI increase when going to 15.6" from 17.3" isn't that big of a deal, and I'm sure you'd be able to get used to it. Hell, with my crappy vision, I'm fine with even 100% DPI 1080p 15.6", which is even "smaller".

if you end up with a gaming system, at least make sure it comes with some version of a Radeon card instead of a GeForce card, as to help your performance in PS and the like.

 

I think a 17" (or larger) notebook will be better suited for your use in the long run - sorry no specific recommendations.

Highly recommended: Windows 8.1 x64 Pro.

Highly recommended: Intel Quad Core Haswell based platform with the highest performing processor you can afford.

Highly recommended: A system with the capability of 32GB RAM (or more) and at least 16GB to start with - especially if you're dealing with RAW image files (as opposed to jpegs, for example).

Highly recommended: A notebook with at least 2 drive bays or more, with an additional mSATA (or better yet an NGFF) connector for another SSD (even if you don't populate it right away) and ensure that the drive cages, screws and connectors are included with your system even if you order it with a single drive for now (many 2 drive bay systems ship with only the required drive cage/screws/connectors for the drives it ships with - leaving you to track down parts 'blindly' to fully populate the drive bays).

Highly recommended: A notebook with an Intel AC7260 wireless adaptor - or at least another comparable AC class WiFi option to take full advantage of the wireless progress you'll be seeing in the lifetime of this notebook.


With the above based on at least a 256GB MLC based SSD (with 30% over provisioning via 'unallocated' capacity) for your programs and a HDD of 1TB or larger; the system will serve you well for the next few years.


Don't forget external HDD's for your backups (to multiple drives; yes, I recommend at least two external backup drives...) in your budget if you don't have them already.

Hope this helps.


Good luck.

 

thanks... thanks for your reply

i never see/get any laptop here which is have radeon.. all i got Intel HD or GTX. yes you are right... when start work then may be get use to with 15.6.. i am usng 17inch since 2006

 

I've got no experience with gaming laptops, I know that most people agree that Alienware, MSI and Asus are the best. The Toshiba looks nice though, and in my opinion, the Dell Inspirons can't really be trusted with heavy gaming

 

I couldn't get used even to 1680x1050... unless I always slouched over it, everything was too damn small - no problem seeing stuff, but everything needs laser focus (and my eyes hurt for the first week or so).

I now use a 23" Full HD display, which is perfect at about 3 feet. And I have good vision, too

 

thanks for nice and details reply....the specification you said... most of them i got in toshiba X75-A7298 .. but it's gaming laptop... so there have gtx 770m .. not quadro... and backup i have 3TB WD external..i am always backup there my work and stuff.

 

Perhaps you could find a Clevo 17.3" that has a Quadro option. I'm unsure what resellers sell in your country, if any, though I do recall some resellers offering certain models with Quadros.

 

thanks for your reply... actually i am not play game in laptop.... i just do work.... so i am not going to buy laptop for gaming.. but for heavy configuration i don't get here other laptop without gaming laptop .. so my choose also limited....

 

here don't have Clevo bad luck

 

i got bellow model in market right now.. do you thing guys.. which is best for me...

(i don't need touch, i don't play game, i don't care much OS)

( i do care long time use, i do care professionally use, i do care good resolution, all i use photoshop, dreamweaver, illustraor and lot of browse... )

Dell 17r-5737


4th Generation Intel® Core™ i7-4500U processor
Windows 8, 64-bit, English
8GB 2 DIMM (2x4GB) DDR3L 1600Mhz
1TB 5400RPM SATA Hard Drive
Intel® HD Graphics 4400
17.3 inch LED Backlit Display with Truelife and HD+ resolution (1600 x 900)

730US$

Dell nspiron 17
Intel® Core™ i7-4500U processor (4M Cache, up to 3.0 GHz)
Windows 8.1 Single Language (64Bit) English
Memory 16GB 2 DIMM (2x8GB) DDR3L 1600Mhz
Hard Drive 1TB 5400RPM SATA Hard Drive
CD ROM/DVD ROM Tray load DVD Drive (Reads and Writes to DVD/CD)
Wireless Intel® Dual Band Wireless-N 7260 2x2 AGN + Bluetooth 4.0
LCD 17.3 inch LED Backlit Touch Display with Truelife and FHD resolution (1920 x 1080)

1270US$


HP Envy 17


4th generation Intel® Core™ i7-4700MQ Processor
Windows 8.1 64
8GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm)
1TB 5400 rpm Hard Drive
Intel® HD Graphics
17.3-inch diagonal HD+ BrightView LED-backlit Display (1600 x 900) Non touch

730US$


Toshiba Qosmio X75-A7295

Intel® Core™ i7-4700MQ quad core processor
Windows 8
16GB DDR3L memory
1TB (500GBx2) 7200 RPM hard drive
NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 770M 3GB with Optimus™
DVD SuperMulti Drive
1920x1080 TruBrite display
Intel® Centrino® Wireless-N (WIDI Ready)
2MP (1080p) webcam

1200US$


Toshiba Qosmio X75-A7298
Intel® Core™ i7-4700MQ quad core processor
Windows 8
16GB DDR3L memory
256GB Solid SDD + 1TB Hybrid hard drive
NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 770M 3GB with Optimus™
Blu-ray Disc® Rewriteable (BD-RE) Drive
1920x1080 TruBrite display
Intel® Centrino® Wireless-N (WIDI Ready)
2MP (1080p) webcam
LED backlit keyboard
HDMI output with 4K capability

1460US$


MSI GS70 2OD (Stealth)-097MY


Intel® Core™ i7-4700M Processor
Windows 8
17.3" FHD, Anti-Glare (1920*1080) LED
DDR 3 8GB
NVIDIA GeForce GTX765M, 2GB GDDR5
1TB HDD 7200 rpm

1430US$

 

I certainly wouldn't get a 900p 17.3" laptop at all, so that strikes out the HP and the other 900p laptops.

As for the remainder, the second Toshiba has the best specs out of the lot, though I wouldn't bother with a hybrid hard drive if you're going to have a 256GB SSD on it as well (using the HDD for mainly bulk storage doesn't require the SSD cache that a hybrid HDD offers).

 

The Toshiba Qosmio X75-A7298 offers the best overall performance for the $$$.

While a $260 premium for BluRay and a 256GB SSD is a little steep - it offers you the convenience of a ready to go system, fully configured and supported by the manufacturer along with a powerful (for PS) GPU in an Optimus configuration (which means lower power/heat output when not using the discrete gpu).

If the system also offers another two SoDimm slots to take you to 32GB of RAM, it would be my only choice.

Edit: yes, it does do 32GB RAM:

See:
Toshiba Qosmio X75 Review | Laptop Reviews


Do Immediately:
Create the Restore DVD's as soon as you boot into the system for the first time - put these in a safe place (properly labeled) and then proceed to do the following, ensuring you are removing the battery and AC power as necessary (when installing the additional RAM, for example).

After creating the Restore DVD's:
With this system, I would (immediately) install another 2x 8GB DDR3L SoDimms, shrink the C: drive partition to ~165GB (this is the SSD drive we're shrinking) and leave the remainder as 'unallocated'. This allows the SSD's GC and TRIM to operate at the lowest WA factor possible and allows you to use your SSD (almost) any way you wish while giving you the fastest and most consistent performance possible, for the lifetime of the drive.

I would also disable Hibernation, disable Error Reporting, disable sleep (or at least set it to something like 5 Hrs.) and disable the pagefile too (especially with 32GB of RAM installed).

Then I would uninstall any/all bloatware and trial software delivered with the system - including any A/V software (highly recommend MSE/Windows Defender for Win7/Win8/Win8.1 systems).

Now; I would connect to the internet (you haven't yet, right...) and do any and all updates from Windows update: including going to the 'Store' and completing the Windows 8.1 update too; and then doing any additional Windows updates after the 8.1 update completes.

With the system fully up-to-date, O/S - wise, now I would install the programs you require, updating them as needed.

At this point, you will have a very good idea how the system is responding/performing for you - if you're satisfied that the system is stable:

Run a MemTest overnight (at least 10 Hrs) to ensure the new RAM (not only the RAM you bough 'extra', but also the RAM that came with the system) is 100% stable.

Now, you're able to put your Data on the new system and start using it.


With the main system completed way below your budget...

I hope you bought at least 2x 1TB external HDD's for backup purposes:

Use FreeFileSync to mirror your system's internal 1TB HDD to each external (put everything in a Data folder - don't simply use the root directory for everything) and alternate which external drive you use each day/week/month/etc. (depending how often you change files on your working system).


Good luck and congrats on a system that will give you many years of productive service!


Take care.

 

@tilleroftheearth .. thanks.. thank you so much for nice and details reply.. it will really help me for take decision .. i have one 3TB WD external.. for my backup

thanks @Jarhead too