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    ssd sata to ide for notebook (remove ssd casing to fit?)

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by kocoman, Oct 25, 2010.

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    kocoman Notebook Enthusiast

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    i think it does not fit, because the adapter is thicker (Dimension 69 x 14 x 17.5 mm (L x W x H)) than normal hdd (9.5/12.5mm)
     
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    kocoman Notebook Enthusiast

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    Does anyone know of a smaller converter chip that does this? so everyone is forced to give up their old notebook because of it not supporting newer drives?
     
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    Trottel Notebook Virtuoso

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    SATA has been around for 7 years now, and no laptops have come with PATA since about 2006, when most were coming with SATA. Nobody is saying you have to get rid of your old laptop, but putting an SSD that is worth a lot more than the laptop it is going into is fairly counter-intuitive. If you really want increased performance, you should probably just buy a new $200 laptop.
     
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    User Retired 2 Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    Try a 1.8" microsata SSD + microsata-to-IDE adapter. Better yet, grab a IDE SSD like a MX-Nano based on a EWS720 controller.
     
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    Tsunade_Hime such bacon. wow

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    Can't be for 7 years for notebooks. My dad bought a Dell Inspiron 6000 in 2005 with an IDE hard drive but with DDR2 memory. I think maybe 5 years for notebooks, 7 years for desktops..
     
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    eurasianlynx Notebook Enthusiast

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    At the end of 2005 expensive notebooks started to have sata but most still had pata, I think in 2006 sata then came to more and more notebooks.

    I think a ssd is usually to expensive for a pata laptop. A decent pata harddisk like hm160hc or wd3200beve makes more sense if you want to continue using it for while.
     
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    I didn't say it was. I said SATA was introduced 7 years ago. I also said that on laptops, 2006 was the final year for IDE availability, although by then most were using SATA.

    I just think it is really not cost-effective to upgrade such an old laptop. Today's bargain laptops would be a wiser choice.
     
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    Tsunade_Hime such bacon. wow

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    If he wants to drop like a 100 bucks in an older laptop he is familiar with by all means. 100 dollars vs a 300 dollar piece of crap machine?
     
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    Trottel Notebook Virtuoso

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    Well what's the point of an SSD on a laptop with 1GB of RAM and a Pentium M?
     
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    Tsunade_Hime such bacon. wow

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    Hey if you got money to throw away...

    It would equate to putting a Ferrari engine into a 1987 Civic. If you had the money...
     
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    tilleroftheearth Wisdom listens quietly...

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    No matter how fast it gets though...

    But it would still drive like a Civic. With one 'tupid driver at the wheel.

    A 'driver' with a lot less money. :)
     
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    Thanks for the link.. something like that might work.. but it needs min order 100 pcs..
     
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    A NBR user could buy 100 of them, put a page on here showing how to hook up a 1.8" microsata SSD to it (eg: Intel X18M G2) and sell them on ebay so 2.5" IDE users can have a great microsata SSD option.
     
  15. Crimsoned

    Crimsoned Notebook Deity

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    Anyone forget P-ATA has a limit of speed?
    ATA-4, Ultra ATA/33
    ATA-5, Ultra ATA/66
    ATA-6, Ultra ATA/100
    ATA-7, Ultra ATA/133
    Those are the versions/speeds in megabytes/second...

    I wouldn't recommend putting a SSD unless it was an version 7 Ultra ATA, which on a laptop I haven't seen to date. Other things to take into account
    The chipset can handle the bandwidth
    The processor can process the bandwidth without slowing down much
    The owner for some reason is willing to put a SSD on such a old laptop, and not take advantage of most of their performance advantages.
     
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    Thats true. Even the worst SSDs probably do higher than 133mb/s sometimes.

    If you really want to do it the absolute easiest way would be to replace your CDROM drive with a SATA caddy. Its the only thing thats made to fit in a notebook and convert from PATA to SATA.
     
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    You can see how sata-to-pata bridged sata SSDs perform in the http://forum.notebookreview.com/har...-1-8-zif-pata-ssds-available.html#post6861746 thread.

    If running on a Intel PATA interface then you'd be capped to UDMA5 100MB/s reads and 88.9MB/s writes. So yes, the interface is capped, but 4KB reads improve substantially over a HDD. A cheap sata-to-pata bridge would be ideal as sata/microsata SSDs are more common and therefore cheaper than PATA ones. You wouldn't be buying into redundant technology.

    EDIT: Caddy idea proposed above is a very sensible approach to take. See http://forum.notebookreview.com/har...rage-using-optical-bay-caddy.html#post4936086 .
     
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    Hmm good points with the 4k performance improvements, however putting a SSD on an old computer is still not recommend, I doubt the rest of the hardware can put the SSD to full use.