studio 15 i7 ,video card is problem! please help me!

hi,i live in turkey ,I have a studio 15 and this is spesifictionntel® Core™ i7-720QM Quad Core Processor @ 1.6GHz (2.8GHz Turbo Mode, 6MB Cache)
4GB Shared Dual Channel DDR3 at 1333MHz !
500GB SATA Hard Drive (7200RPM) but the video card is 512MB ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4570 and this is 64 bit , I want to change video card thus mainboard ,is it posible ?thank u for your help .

 

No you cannot.

 

Hello! I dont quite understand it, you want to change the motherboard?

I mean, you could but it will be as expensive as a new laptop therefore pointless. And GPU is NOT upgradeable.

 

May I ask why you wish to change the motherboard? Gpu is too slow for you?

 

You can change the motherboard, but it is extremely expensive, and the 512MB ATi 4570 is already the best graphics card available for the Studio 15 anyway. The only other options are the 256MB version of the same card, and the Intel 4500MHD.

I used to have a Studio 1555 with the 256MB ATi 4570, and it gamed just fine. As late as last week I was playing Modern Warfare 2 and Left 4 Dead 2 at native resolution.

 

I dont have a problem for speed ,only video card is slow for games but the other specifiction is very powerfull , my old notebook have a 9600 m gt video card 128 bit thus more powerfull, if dell will generate new and more powerfull mainboard for studio 15 ,I will want to buy but now most power full mainboard for studio 15 mine, can ı buy other dell's mainboard for example alienware or xps because most powerfull mainboard of studio 15 my mainboard,thank you for your help

for axample I can not play gta 4 thus ı play very slow

I have a one question ,howmuch this notebook's pirece at other country ? I was buy at 1350 $

 

You cant put a different board on this laptop, other than the Studio 15's

I think easier would be selling this laptop and getting a new one...not suggesting it, since this is a powerful laptop, but I see no other solution for a better GPU

 

The GPU is crap and although you have a nice CPU , you won't be able to play most games well... and you cannot upgrade the GPU so sell this laptop...

 

I am sorry, but that GPU is not "crap". Might wanna recheck sean473. It is a very capable GPU, but GTA4 is a very demanding game. The 4570HD is highly underestimated but it is very capable, just does not fit the OP on this case.

And no offense, but this "crap" GPU beats the 9600M GT DDR2.

 

Don't mind sean, he's just sitting on his own cloud giving random advice

Anyhow, I agree that changing the motherboard for a new GPU is just a nigh difficult and impractical process simply for getting a new GPU.

Not only is there the issue of another motherboard being able to fit the Studio 15's chassis, there's also the issue of the thermal output of a new GPU in the Studio 15's chassis.

 

And dont forget about the BIOS and drivers.

Basically it would be a pain to change motherboard, from almost all points of view.

Have you lowered the settings of the game and/or resolution of the screen?? (strange nobody mentioned it)

 

The HD4570 is far from crap. I had the 256MB GDDR3 version in my Studio 1555, and like I said, I could comfortably play Modern Warfare 2 and Left 4 Dead 2, the most recent games I bought for it, at native resolution (1366x768) and a mix of medium/high settings with L4D2, and medium for MW2.

I've also played Crysis with it, at native res and all low settings except for textures, shaders, and volumetric effects, which were at medium. Besides that, I had several less demanding games as well, including Halo and Halo 2, Rome: Total War, Unreal Tournament 2004 and UT3, all the previous Call of Duty games (CoD, United Offensive, CoD2, CoD4, World at War), Medal of Honor Allied Assault and Airborne, and Team Fortress 2.

So, yeah, suffice it to say that the 4570 does not, in fact, suck.

 

People underestimate the HD4570 because of its 64bit, but for what it is and how much it costs, it's a quite capable GPU. As said, it can perform on the same grounds as certain 128bit GPUs like the 8600M GT and can play just about most games you throw at it; it just can't max them.

Nonetheless, if the OP wants a better gaming GPU, there's nothing to do but get a new machine. Upgrading laptop GPUs is a tedious and inefficient process cost-wise.

 

Maybe if it's the GDDR3 version. You will find that a 9600M GT of the same memory type will beat the 4570. Hell, the 4570 is only JUST better than my 3650, and the 9600M GT is leagues better than my 3650.

 

You should try downloading the ATI Catalyst 9.11 for Vista / 7 and mod it with ATI Mobility Modder.
You should at least see a minor speed improvement.
And GTA4 is a console port i think, but remember to get the latest patch and turn down the shadow details, as its a fps killer.

 

Is there something stopping you from overclocking the GPU?

 

also look in to the DIY ViDock on this forum, it tells you how to make an external GPU which runs on an external monitor. this way you can have more power without upgrading any internal parts. there is also the normal ViDock but it is very expensive and cannot use as powerful external graphics cards

 

Warranty perhaps? The super incredibly designed cooling system on the Studio 15? Fear to overclock? Who knows...there is some people who are not the kind that like to overclock the toaster too...^^ (no pun intended)

 

which lunatic told you that the 4570 beat a 9600M GT DDR2... It doesn't even come close... go and check notebookcheck.net... So now i'm the one spouting crap LOL... and just if you wanted to know, my 9600M GT can play GTA4 ....

 

Your wish is my command sean...

As per notebookcheck(since sean mentioned it )

*NOTE: I'm only using notebookcheck because sean so nicely asked me to (it's normally an iffy reference to use)

At lower resolutions, the HD4570 can perform similarly to 128bit DDR2 GPUs on games not too demanding due to the presence of GDDR3 on the HD4570(at least the one in the Dell Studio line). GTA4 will bottleneck the HD4570 because it's a VRAM hungry game and the 64bit bus will play a more significant bottleneck, even on lower resolutions.

 

sean473:
Posting on Forums 101
This is a little tutorial on how to post on a public forum.

First off, read the Forum Rules, which were kindly created so that you can know how to behave here.

Second, be polite when you reply. Nobody here is "spouting crap"

Third, NotebookCheck is a reference, but not the mother of truth on this matter.

Forth, nor you nor the OP have specified on what resolution with what settings and what parts, nor the FPS you are getting, since for some even 15 FPS is playable, for others 30 is the minimum.

Fifth,

Below 4K 3DMark06

Here people report 4K http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=404078&page=2

 

According to 3D Mark 06.. from my laptop , i get 4.5K score... now let me show you the real benchmarks from notebookcheck.net

3D Mark 06for 9600M GT DDR 2 1280X1024 in pavilion HDX16... 4085
3D Mark 06 for 4570 GDDR 3 at 1280 X 1024 in satelitte L500 ... 3703...

so clearly in this very similar comparison , the 9600M GT beats the 4570... now the studio 15 you quoted is most probably a fluke score and my laptop which is very similar to the pavilion HDX 16 and gets 4500+...

Now in the games section... In almost all games the 4570 looses to 9600M GT.. and is only able to beat the 9600M GT in ATI optimised games... overall 9600M GT still is way better... especially the GDDR3 version... / close thread.. and i win.

 

The 9600M GT GDDR3 most definitely beats the HD4570, no question about it, but the HD4570 is quite capable considering what it is. The 4k 3dmark06 score isn't a fluke, just check the Dell studio 15 thread here on NBR and you'll notice lots of people can get their 3dmark06 score near 4000 depending on their CPU setup.

I'm not advocating the HD4570 is better than the 9600M GT, but it's far from crap when compared to other 64bit GPUs available today(the G105M, the HD3470 and the like); it's actually quite capable and can play most games at lower settings(check those "nice" notebookcheck benchmarks to prove it can run modern games at lower settings). Not everyone needs to max out games you know.

 

That is the most childish post in a while...no pun intended.

And I think most of us know how benchmarks are really not the best way to measure GPUs, and that NotebookCheck is not the best either. Taking that into consideration, the 4570HD is far from being a bad GPU and that is my point.

 

Grow up.

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