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    tech from ces 2011 that wont make it to laptops anytime soon, but should

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by roberto.tomas, Jan 6, 2011.

  1. roberto.tomas

    roberto.tomas Notebook Consultant

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    forget backlit keyboards, when you can have oled keys instead:
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    ..actually electronic paper based keys would do it for me .. especially if black or white were partially transparent.

    qFHD AM OLED 19" display:
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    ..also available in a 14" variety (talk about ppi!!)

    top/rear mounted projector:
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    There's a million touch mobile phones now, someone aught to make an adjustable-sized dock for mobile phones where the touchpad normally is in a laptop, and the software to use it that way (iphone even has a fingerprint reader app)

    -- sorry if I'm dreamin' .. just way too much stuff at ces 2011 without anyone to champion it in our form factor
     
  2. ViciousXUSMC

    ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer

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    wow what is that first one, doesnt look like enough keys there to be a full keyboard. Would be awkward to type on that thing.

    OLED keys... probably so expensive and pointless for most. I mean the point of keys instead of clicking on screen is speed, if you have to look down at your keys thats not fast you may as well click your spell icon on screen.

    Touch typing is all you need to learn and then you can type with your eyes closed.
     
  3. Nsxrrmaniac

    Nsxrrmaniac Notebook Evangelist

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    Those oleds keys would make playing wow so easy... but you'd still need to mouse with your right hand lol.
     
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    Phinagle Notebook Prophet

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    That's real nice. At least someone gets it that game keys to the left of the keyboard is a good idea.



    I've been wanting Pico projectors to come to notebooks for sometime now...they're a very useful feature. Some phone makers have been thinking about using them to project virtual keyboards

    [​IMG]
     
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    NotEnoughMinerals Notebook Deity

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    that must be one heavy keyboard, imagine dropping your laptop and your keyboard shatters.....eek
     
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    ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer

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    I have used IR keyboard tech before, looks just like that picture.

    Problem is that with no actual feedback from keys pressed that its incredibly hard to type properly. Even when you type on a phone screen most have a feedback type like a small vibration from the phone and since your looking at the phone you can see if you typed the letter.

    On a projected keyboard you have to look at the keyboard and not the device so you have no clue if your typing right.
     
  7. davepermen

    davepermen Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    microsoft has solved this with a keyboard that follows your hands so you can type blindly.. that should be available by now (but isn't).

    oleds in general should be available by now (but aren't, for laptop screens, tvs, big computer screens.. etc)
     
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    Trottel Notebook Virtuoso

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    OLED is not ready for the prime time. The tech has been around for a long while now, but there still remain unsolved issues that make it largely impractical compared to LCD's for TV's and monitors. You think if it was doable, manufacturers wouldn't have ramped up mass production by now?
     
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    I know oled changes color over time and there was some reason or another that I cant recall why it was not so proper for large screen devices.

    Still there are a ton of really cool things you can do with it.
     
  10. roberto.tomas

    roberto.tomas Notebook Consultant

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    Obviously OLED tech in a general sense is past the r&d hump for feasability. just another reason --note the video. There's an old keyboard from russia that's had a hundred of individual oled keys for the past 10+ years. There are millions (tens of millions?) of mobile phones with the tech now. That's beyond r & d phase.

    The problem is really a patent war, and a bit about manufacturing methods. If you print them from inkjets (its the cheapest method), you can get them really thin -- that's a selling feature. But , if you print them from inkjets, how do you keep it from being an ink & "paper" business model when someone knocks off the general principal with a different set of patents/inks? Besides, monitor frames are a big part of their current justification for existence.

    Other manufacturing methods may yield better color, or better resolution/3d etc, but why pay to ramp up huge fabs when there are still a flurry of patents and right around the corner and someone might lock you out of the market you pay to develop just a year or two down the road. That's what the delay is about.

    Longevity is a non issue, they just make larger blue cell and tune the display to increase electrical current to those cells over time. The non-blue cells have a lifespan about 3 times longer than an LCD, and with the larger reserve of dye, the blue cells last as long.

    Size (tv / monitor use) is only an issue because the fabs are still sub-commitment phase , and they dont want to make giant precision inkjet tech at a huge cost quite yet -- although apparently thats changing for samsung.
     
  11. davepermen

    davepermen Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    who cares if it can't be. it SHOULD be. that's what the topic's about :)

    i want my oled screens now! i have one (samsung amoled) on my phone. i want it EVERYWHERE. GOOORGEOUS!!
     
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    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    WIDI with 1080p. But who will include it with their laptops? Asus was suppose to include WIDI 720p with the G53JW but backed out a month before release