thinking of overclocking

I have thought of over clocking my GPU and possibly my CPU but don't I need a temperature on both to know if they are getting to hot? What program is out that will tell me the temp of the 2 components?

Compaq R3000T (CTO)
P4 Desktop 3.0GHz w/HT
1 X 512MB RAM
Radeon 9600 128MB
15.4 wide screen
WXGA (1280 X 800)
CD-RW,DVD+RW
60GB 5,400 RPM HD
Wireless b/g
Windows XP Home
12 Cell Battery
No mods/overclocking
AquaMark: 19,796
PCMark04: 3955
3DMark03: 2508

 

for gpu i never bother with individual temps, if you just try running it and see if its stable after a good stress test or something it seems to work well. Then if you start getting frequent crashes turn it down some.

zx5000 :: 2.4M :: 512 DDR :: 40gb 4200 RPM HD :: 15.4" :: Radeon 9600 Mobilty M10 :: Aquamark3 22,856

 

its partly I'm curious and I just don't want to cook the GPU. I don't really think I need to over clock the cpu though its much faster then any game requires

Compaq R3000T (CTO)
P4 Desktop 3.0GHz w/HT
1 X 512MB RAM
Radeon 9600 128MB
15.4 wide screen
WXGA (1280 X 800)
CD-RW,DVD+RW
60GB 5,400 RPM HD
Wireless b/g
Windows XP Home
12 Cell Battery
No mods/overclocking
AquaMark: 19,796
PCMark04: 3955
3DMark03: 2508

 

if you want a pretty much safe overclock you could add 50mhz and 25mhz to the sliders. I have found its best to increase in 2:1 increments clockspeed:memory

zx5000 :: 2.4M :: 512 DDR :: 40gb 4200 RPM HD :: 15.4" :: Radeon 9600 Mobilty M10 :: Aquamark3 22,856

 

Sorry, quickster, I disagree. Temperature is very important. If your GPu crashes, you want to know what caused it. It may be because it is overheating, or it may not have enough voltage. For example, My GPU could not overclock at all. Later on, I found out that it was running 100 degrees celcius. I modded the cooling, and look at my benchmarks now, 15% increase. I used i8kfangui, but it may not work on your laptop. google it.

GPU cooling (100°C->75°C)* Inspiron 8600 * 1.8ghz Pentium M * 128 MB Radeon 9600 Pro Turbo (337/242 -> 400/300) * 2x256 MB DDR2700 SDRAM * Aquamark 3: 24058 * 3DMark'03: 3404 * 3DMark'01 SE: 13120

 

Just from my experience and machines, cooling has never been an issue on my gpus, on my CPU I have some hefty cooling, but my graphics has never given me a problem in both my laptop and my desktops.

zx5000 :: 2.4M :: 512 DDR :: 40gb 4200 RPM HD :: 15.4" :: Radeon 9600 Mobilty M10 :: Aquamark3 22,856

 

Without knowing the temperature of the GPU, it is difficult to tell whether the heat is crashing the GPU, or if it has simply reached its maximum. That way you know if it is worth adding cooling or not. Quickster, what kind of cooling does HP use on their laptops? Dell uses wax thermal pads, but I am curious to know about the competition. If heat hasn't given you a problem, maybe HP is just doing a better job designing than Dell.

GPU cooling (100°C->75°C)* Inspiron 8600 * 1.8ghz Pentium M * 128 MB Radeon 9600 Pro Turbo (337/242 -> 400/300) * 2x256 MB DDR2700 SDRAM * Aquamark 3: 24058 * 3DMark'03: 3404 * 3DMark'01 SE: 13120

 

i'm a little worried about how hot my GPU is after listening to what andrew has to say...

i've got a 3.2ghz 5150, with the geforce fx5200 Go in it...I've overclocked to 241/510, which is far, far higher than the defaults, and found stability at this level through extended gameplay and looping 3dmarks. But is it safe (temperature wise) to run at this level? Am I going to end up cooking the card? thanks for any feedback

 

If you were cooking the card you would see things studder a lot. Nvidia (and ati) underclock their better chips to make bargain cards like the 5200, so you are probably just getting your money's worth. You will be fine. What notebook do you have?
It just feels like being in the dark if I don't know exactly how hot my GPU is at a given moment. Temps=really nice to have, but not necessary unless you are pushing the chip to its limits.

GPU cooling (100°C->75°C)* Inspiron 8600 * 1.8ghz Pentium M * 128 MB Radeon 9600 Pro Turbo (337/242 -> 400/300) * 2x256 MB DDR2700 SDRAM * Aquamark 3: 24058 * 3DMark'03: 3404 * 3DMark'01 SE: 13120