turion x2 vs intel core 2 duo

im looking at some hp notebooks (seemingly i cannot make up my darn mind), and i ran into turion vs core 2 duo. Which is better? turion x2 tl-60 1mb cache (512kb per), 2.0ghz, or the core 2 duo T7200 4mb cache 2.0ghz. i no the intel cache is bigger, but the clock speeds r the saem, and the amd is cheaper.

p.s. what does cache do?

 

The Core 2 Duo is faster than the Turion X2.

The cache is that part of the memory where frequently or recently accessed data is stored for quick retrieval.

 

pricewise: its +370 for the core 2 duo, and +225 for the turion *shurg*, now i dont kno which one to get.

 

Go for the Turion X2 if you want to save the $145. If you multi-task a lot, then go for the Core 2 Duo. It will be well worth the $145.

 

lol, you're still looking for notebook ideas.

Turion X2 has low power consumption and is supposedly bang for the buck.
Core (2) Duo is still overall a better processor in power and performance, although it may cost a bit more, it is arguably worth it.

AMD is still scrambling to get out a next-gen CPU because since Intel has released the Core CPUs, AMD has fallen behind in the leader of performance CPUs. AMD currently only has their K8 processors out, which were top-notch when it was released, but has fallen behind now. AMD is trying to push out their quad-core line to answer Intel's Core (2) Duo's.

If you really are budget conscious, then a Turion X2 would do fine for everything you need it to do. If you got enough budget headroom, it is probably worth it to go with the Core (2) Duo's.

I have always been an AMD advocate, but since Intel has finally been going the right direction, I give props when it is deserved.

Hurry up and make up your mind. j/k

-Gophn

 

hehe, yeah, i should make up my mind, i just try to look for best prices and deals... that sager 9750 tho... lol, unless powernotebooks has some sick deal, im gonna have to wait a bit to buy that, maybe after christmas, UNLESS i get it from like rjtech.com, i can save 300-500$ ^_^. I can make my mind up faster from rjtech. , but i have some questions about building laptops, 1. Is it like Desktops, except much smaller? 2. Is the motherboard alrdy mounted into the case, or does it come so you have to do it?3. whats a good store where i can get decent laptop parts (maybe a better processor , amd FXish...)?

 

Quad core isn't useful yet. I'll take a dual-core K8L, thanks.

 

Yea its pretty much the same thing as a desktop, just in a smaller scale.

If you want to build your own notebook:
1) Purchase the barebones with, at least, optical drive(s) and the videocard
2) The motherboard is already inside the chassis of the notebook barebones
3) The installation of the CPU is the same as dekstop (remember to use thermal compound)
4) The memory is the same as dekstop. (just smaller)
5) The hard drive(s) usually have a special mounting, but still straight forward (install hdd in the mounting, then it goes in the notebook)
6) As for the miniPCI(e) modules (such as Wifi and TV tuner), They just clip in like memory, but requires some wires to connect to it for optimal functionality (ex. Antenna and Aux cables for the WiFi card)

That should be it, takes less than an hour to put this together.

Note: Like I said before, make sure you do the pricing correctly comparing a barebones unit that you are going to build and a fully configured notebook. I would use Newegg or Tigerdirect for pricing & parts that are cheaper than most other places.

-Gophn

 

well wow is the only thing i can say, that i some money spending, and as for some amd x2 processors, where can i find them cheap? or cant it?

oh, and video card is like desktop, u put it in, clip on safety mounting thing, and bam drivers, and ur good to go?

1 more thing, is the ram pc5300, or pc5400? it only says 667mhz ddr2, and im looking at it and there r 2 choices, which one did u have?

 

you should not install the videocard youself, true that its only 4 screws, but you want warranty on the barebones and the videocard... so let them do that.

I go to to Newegg.com for most of my parts, they are well-respected and have the best prices.

The memory for the Clevo D900K is DDR400 So-Dimm (not DDR2), you have 2 slots to populate (2 gigs max)

If you read my sig, I got 2 gigs of Kingston DDR400 with Latency 2.5 (the fastest that I can get for my notebook). The prices have gone down though, I would go for Kingston, Consair, Mushkin, or Crucial.

 

waittttt.... so rjtech.com will install the optical drives and video card for you?

p.s. on your story, u had a 3500+ athlon, where did you buy your processor?

btw: nice catch there i was looking at the compal HEL80 and i remembered it used ddr2 667, i forgot most AMD systems use pc3200 400mhz xcept for socket AM2 thx

 

yes, whatever items you choose to buy with your barebones, they will install for you.
RJTech may sell barebones, but you can actually get a fully configured notebook through them as well (with whatever parts you choose).

I recommend you to check these guys out... they are technically how I got my barebones (I got it through PC Club, which got it from them):

http://pro-star.com/index.cfm?mainpage=productdetail&model=9068

The prices are just as competitive as Powernotebooks, but they actually have the option for the nVidia 7950 GTX.

Pro-Star is also a great OEM for Clevo notebooks, I just recently did some warranty work (swapped an overheated videocard) through them. They are actually near Sager's headquarters as well in the City of Industry.

 

AMD's notebook socket offerings are either socket 754 (DDR) or S1 (DDR2). You can get newer processors for socket S1, but otherwise, there isn't really a performance difference.

 

You are throwing in some great options, but it seems that rjtech.com is cheaper than the pro-star.com (rjtech also added a nVidia GTX 7950 upgrade). And, i forgot to mention i live in Chicago, so the Celifornia stores, wont benefit me (dang), over here we dont have any manufactores, of laptops, i found the memory is cheaper, if i buy it from newegg. The one thing that conserns me is that the processor. Remember that one post where u gave me the link to your story? You said you bought an AMD athlon 3500+ and kingston 2 gigs, and something else. The last question i have is where did you get your processor from, before i finish up on the research. Maybe i lied: is the WUXGA hard to read letters?

 

Its true that the WUXGA (1920 x 1200) shows small fonts, but I got use to it.
I chose WUXGA because:
1) It lets me see a lot of things on the screen at the same time.
2) Its awesome for gaming with such a high-res (literally I dont need AA)
3) When true High-definition (1920 x 1080p) is standardized, the screen is ready for it.
4) Then I can get a Blue-ray or HD-DVD drive when its ready for purchase and stick it in my notebook.

You can remedy the small font by just modify the themes... pretty simple.

For your question of where I got the 3500+, well my friend got a Dual Opteron in his desktop and pretty much gave the CPU to me.

If you are thinking of getting a single-core CPU until you can save up for a Dual Core, then I recommend you to get an Opteron (yes this notebook can house it), its better for gaming (larger cache than Athlon) and is a server-class CPU in a notebook.

I am about to get a Dual Core Opteron in my notebook soon.. I hope. I was thinking of getting an Opteron 170 or 175.

The best deal on AMD Opterons:
Monarchcomputers.com
Newegg.com

 

wait.. so u can stick a desktop proc into a laptop, even with the huge heatsink... and fan?!?! im really confused now! and the socket the sager 9750 is 939 right?

oh god, an operton in this!?!?! man my head is going crazy will being like. I NEED MONEY rofl

 

the Clevo D900K is a desktop replacement, the main part within it is a desktop part:
Socket 939 CPU (Athlon 64/X2/FX-55,57,60 or Opteron 144,146,148/165/170/175/180/185)

The reason why this notebook weighs 14 pounds is the amount of copper within it, in fact the entire bottom-back section of the notebook, is the cpu copper heatsink block with 2 fans.

The rest of the parts are notebook.

 

WOW, so i can purchase any AMD socket 939 cpu, stick it in the alppy ( even with big heatsink and fan . . .? just like a desktop?) plug it and and start up the lappy and everything will work?

i mean i wouldnt think a big heatsink would fit into a decent size . . looking at your avatar .

 

yea its a desktop CPU, thats why it requires so much power and has a battrylife of 1hour 40minutes... with a 12-cell battery.

 

well, wow, i felt as if donald stratton talked to me . So just to get this outta my head, u can even insert the copper heatsink with the fan on top of it into the laptop? thank you so much gophn, oh and is the motherboard overlcocking compatiable for an operton 170?

 

no, the notebook barebones comes with its own (proprierty) heatsink to install over your socket 939 CPU.

The overclocking for the CPU is still up in the air. Technically no one really has attempted it yet on this notebook. I was hoping to change that soon.

I was just thinking of getting a decent dual core Opteron, just in case if the overclock would not work, then I wouldnt be too sad.

 

ah ok so i just remove the heatsink that comes with the operton and replace it with the one the notebook comes with? and should i install the fan on it to?

p.s.: 2 things: forget the P.M. i didnt know if you would ever respond :/ *sry*

2. you should do a review for you notebook, there is only one out there,

 

The only thing you need is the CPU itself, no need for the retail heatsink & fan. The notebook has it all ready for you.

I should review mine, I'll probably do it when I get my dual core Opteron in it.

 

alrighty thank you so much

 

and there are a number of reviews for this notebook all ready.

Its a Clevo D900K, but has many other re-branded names...
- Alienware Aurora m7700
- Sager 9750
- Pro-Star 9068
- Hypersonic Aviator FX7
etc..

check out the Alienware version review (its very informative):
http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=2841

you already know about the Sager review.

 

is the video card upgraded? or locked to the mobo? (if after warranty, or 5 years later, haha, i need a new one is it replaceable?) Also, the rjtech.com one reports 'super clear glare type', while the alienware m7700 has amatte screen r the 2 the same?