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    upgraded to T7200 from a T2400 why does boot show celeron?

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by jibberjabbers, Oct 22, 2008.

  1. jibberjabbers

    jibberjabbers Notebook Geek

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    With the T2400, my Laptop booted as a Centino inside...

    With the T7200, it's booting as a Celeron inside?

    Isn't a celeron cheaper than a centrino?

    I used CPUID and it did confirm that its a T7200 Core2 Duo.

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    Anyone else with a T7200 confrim the boot screen cpu logo? I got this cpu on ebay from HK.
     
    jibberjabbers, Oct 22, 2008
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    Bartlett The Prophet

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    I think that there might be BIOS issues here, however, if anything should be correct, it should be the BIOS, so if worst comes up, then you dont have a t7200, but another CPU that has different data about itself, like a p8600 thinking its a p9500.
     
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  3. jibberjabbers

    jibberjabbers Notebook Geek

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    Isn't the T7200 based on the centrino cpu?

    It might be a bios problem.
     
    jibberjabbers, Oct 22, 2008
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    There is no such thing as a centrino cpu. gah i wish people would stop thinking this.
     
    nizzy1115, Oct 22, 2008
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    You probably have to update your BIOS as it is not identifying your CPU properly.
     
    mystery905, Oct 22, 2008
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  6. jibberjabbers

    jibberjabbers Notebook Geek

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    Than *** is this?

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    jibberjabbers, Oct 22, 2008
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    somhavoc Notebook Consultant

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    hes right, centrino is the combanation of technologies from intel inside the laptop, not the CPU it's self. I have the Centrino 2 , but have a P7350 CPU. :p
     
    somhavoc, Oct 22, 2008
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  9. jibberjabbers

    jibberjabbers Notebook Geek

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    So the Intel is wrong and Pc mag is right.

    http://www.intel.com/products/centrino/

    With new laptop PCs based on Intel® Centrino® 2 processor technology for the home, or Intel® Centrino® 2 with vPro™ technology for business, you'll experience a new breakthrough in mobile performance, enabled longer battery life, the future of wireless now with 802.11n standard, and more, right at your fingertips.‡ Delivering performance gains of up to 50%¹ enabled by a minimum 3MB Smart Cache and 1066MHz Front Side Bus, these laptops are equipped to handle everything from robust business to masterful multimedia and everything in between. And with Intel Centrino 2 processor technology, you'll make quick work of the toughest computing tasks like HD video encoding—up to 90% faster², so you can accomplish more without the wait.
     
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    Your BIOS didnt recognize the T7200 as a centrino compliant CPU.

    So it reverts back to a non centrino mode which showed it as a celeron. (should have said Core Duo though)

    Its nothing to worry about.

    What notebook and BIOS version?
     
    flipfire, Oct 22, 2008
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  11. mystery905

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    If you read carefully, Centrino includes the wireless technology. Wireless isn't part of the CPU.
     
    mystery905, Oct 22, 2008
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    jibberjabbers Notebook Geek

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    hp dv1000 - bios? 1/2007 - F.51 Current

    Well, my old T2400 was recognized as a Centrino

    The current T7200 is recognized as a Celeron.

    I don't know where it got celeron from. So I'm guessing the CPU is not compatible. If it's not recognized on the bios that mean its useless correct? Even though Vista recognize it as a duo care T7200.
     
    jibberjabbers, Oct 22, 2008
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  13. jibberjabbers

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    No, it says With new laptop PCs based on Intel® Centrino® 2 processor technology for the home.

    Sure the CPU has nothing to do with Wireless but the Centrino processor will take advantage of the wireless technology, and provide performance gain, and provide longer battery life according to Intel statement.

    When Intel says Centrino Processor, thats where I got it from. If "Centrino" isn't a processor, What it is? A "package"? haha.

    thats why The Centrnio sticker says Centrino on it. And that Sticker usually refers to a CPU, not a "Package".

    CLOSED.....
     
    jibberjabbers, Oct 22, 2008
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  14. flipfire

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    Centino is a combination of intel CPU, chipset and wireless. Take one of them away and its no longer Centrino tech.

    When people swap out their wireless cards for an Atheros or such, it loses the Centrino logo at bootup.

    Yes, its just the BIOS didnt get the update for it so its just throwing it out as a Celeron. Probably because the dv1000 is old.
     
    flipfire, Oct 22, 2008
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  15. lixuelai

    lixuelai Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

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    Lol you are wrong and the others are right. END OF STORY. I love how people come to a forum for help then refuse to be corrected. If you dont want to learn dont be here. Intel can have their screw ups. Please tell me what you think is the difference between Centrino and Core...
     
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  16. jibberjabbers

    jibberjabbers Notebook Geek

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    So why does the T2400 boot screen show Centrino inside?
     
    jibberjabbers, Oct 22, 2008
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    jibberjabbers Notebook Geek

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    There is no update for the bios. The latest update is 1-2007. I'll just take it out and sell it on ebay.
     
    jibberjabbers, Oct 22, 2008
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    lixuelai Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

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    Maybe because you have an Intel WiFI card inside? Go buy a non-Intel card and install it. I bet you wont see Centrino anymore. Else Intel will be very interested in your notebook.
     
    lixuelai, Oct 22, 2008
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    jibberjabbers Notebook Geek

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    My intel wifi is still there, so why does it say celeron now?
     
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    lixuelai Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

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    Because your BIOS does not recognize the CPU properly. The T2400 is a Core Duo processor. The T7200 is a Core 2 Duo processor. Core 2 has a number of differences. I am surprised the computer works. If Vista runs fine and you see 2 cores then I dont see what to complain about. I think you probably only see 1 core. Then you are SOL.

    p.s. Go read the product brief for Centrino 2 please:
    http://download.intel.com/products/centrino/316944.pdf
     
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    Your BIOS does not fully support the T7200, because it is outdated. The CPU probably came out after the dv1000 has been phased out.

    Its just showing Celeron because it cannot recognise it properly. Its nothing to worry about. Theres no such thing as a fake CPU
     
    flipfire, Oct 22, 2008
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    So, should I just take it out and sell it? Since my laptop doesn't support it.

    Or, am I fine since Vista recognizes it.
     
    jibberjabbers, Oct 22, 2008
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    Since Vista recognizes it, and shows both cores in Task Manager, keep it. :)
     
    booboo12, Oct 22, 2008
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    thanks. but, vista seems to load up slower with this cpu. it might just be in my head, cause xp loads just fine.

    I tested the Vista 64bit cdrom from my bro, and my laptop now lets me install it. b4, with the t2400, it said, "your cpu does not support this Operating system". something like that.

    But i'll keep my 32bit vista the way it is.
     
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    K-TRON Hi, I'm Jimmy Diesel ^_^

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    since that T7200 does not work in your system, send me a PM, and if the price is right, I may buy it from your. It would be a nice upgrade from my T5300.

    K-TRON
     
    K-TRON, Oct 23, 2008
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  26. Phil

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    Run some benchmarks. Measure which one is faster.
     
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    jibberjabbers Notebook Geek

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    Looks like its working just fine, but my bios loading screen just says Celeron inside... But vista detects it as a duo core

    Don't know what happened, but after a restart, vista loads much quicker now.

    It's all good now. Just have an annoying celeron logo during bootup thats all.
     
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    Off topic: There was at one point.
     
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    My gusse of why it says celeron is because dv1000, dv5000 and dv8000's never came with core 2 duos' as the core 2 duo's came out hp released a new bios to support them but then switched to a new serries and never actually put them into them. So while you can run it the laptop never came with one so because it dosent know what it is it just says blah its nothing good enough to be listed as a core duo so its a celeron. The cpu is running fine its just a little picture. Also strange but my brothers dv8000 with a t5500 does not do this.
     
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    But my old t2400 was a core duo??? The boot up showed Centrino duo..
     
    jibberjabbers, Oct 27, 2008
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