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    want to replace monitor from differnt 17" inch sager

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by somep3ople, Feb 2, 2011.

  1. somep3ople

    somep3ople Notebook Consultant

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    i got a 5797 and i got a w870cu with bad pixels, now i was wondering since both monitors are 17" it wouldn't be an issue to swap them right? there all the same right, most likely same models as well yea?
     
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    No, they're not. The 5797 is a 16:10 aspect panel (17"), and the W870CU is a 16:9 aspect panel (17.3"). As well, the 5797 has a CCFL backlit screen, and the W870CU is a LED backlit screen. These make it very difficult, if not impossible, to swap screens between the two.
     
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    Yup, nope. Affirmatively not at all possible.

    Much better idea to try and swap with any other 17.3" 16:9 LED backlit laptop.
     
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    how much typically would these lcd's go for and is there a place to buy it from, also is there an upgrade for this type of lcd? like something better?


    also why is it so difficult to swap the screens, i'm talking about removing the whole top half connected with the screen.

    off topic i noticed the w870cu has no caddy for second harddrive what kind does it use, any link
     
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    If you find an entire w870cu lid, LCD, casing, hinges & cables for under about 400$ you should consider yourself extremely lucky.
    Before LED backlighting pretty much all screens were standardized based on size. But now it can be pretty difficult to find a match for the connector, there seem to be a ton of different types. The only good way to do this is take apart LCD assembly and check the connector type then search for screens with an actual picture.
    Yes you can upgrade to FHD if you have 1600x900.
    Ebay is the best place to buy a lot of things, other sites can scam you more easily sometimes. Just watch out for "as" or "like" in the title if you are looking for a specific model, because that means they can throw any crappy brand at you that will function.
    This way you can probably find something really good under 100$, samsung LCDs seem to be less susceptible to dead pixels. If the connector is the same then there is little chance it wont work.

    That said, this will almost definitely work for you if you don't want to go searching around, but like I said beware, these people can get worse screens then any laptop ships with believe me.
    New 17.3" CLEVO X7200 FullHD LED Screen 1920x1080 - eBay (item 230579173829 end time Feb-26-11 23:35:28 PST)

    One more thing about LCDs - there is an ISO standard which states you can sell them as new condition with 3-5 dead pixels. If you ask a seller on ebay and they state it is free of dead pixels however, you can treat that as a guarantee and dispute it with paypal if it has dead pixels.

    The hard drive caddy if youre talking about replacing your optical drive is here:
    2nd HDD caddy Apple OptiBay SuperDrive Replacement SATA - eBay (item 140487385132 end time Feb-04-11 09:43:22 PST)
    Otherwise there is no 'type' it probably has to come from a w870cu (dont know if it actually has room for 2 hard drives and a DVD drive)
     
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    As niffcreature mentioned, removing the entire top half doesn't help; the issue is with the power and data connections between the screen/top half and the motherboard. Since the connectors won't match up, because it requires different types of power (and the data connector is likely to be different), there's no way to connect the "old" top to the "new" motherboard. You're basically asking how to hook a PATA/IDE drive to a SATA connector; they're not compatible (I'm ignoring the fact that there are interposers that work for PATA/IDE to SATA... similar products don't exist for screens).

    If you're talking about just a bracket for the second hard drive bay in the W870CU, then I'd contact any of the various Clevo/Sager resellers (XoticPC, AVADirect, Malibal, RJTech) and they should be able to source one for you. The bracket from the 5797 may work, but I don't really know.
     
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    Yes, LED to CCFL just isn't usually possible... However if it were, you would in fact do it be replacing the the cable and inverter along with the screen which would be part of the whole assembly.
    BUT then the chance of compatibility is ten fold smaller. The only laptops I know about that can use both are a few old dell XPS and precision series.

    If the connector on your motherboard is the same for the m570tu and w870cu LCD cables it would probably be a very bad idea to try it.

    Actually the data connection is technically the same interface but not on that level, like how wifi cards are pci-e. The pinouts are all different. If you are preparing to seriously do it then you'll have to start cutting cables.