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    what to do to optimize ssd

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by mdsniper7, May 4, 2011.

  1. mdsniper7

    mdsniper7 Notebook Evangelist

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    once u get a ssd installed and win 7 on it do u have to get drivers for the ssd or anything I have a intel g2 80gb, any tips
     
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    Nothing much to do. Just make sure that your SSD is aligned and that your laptop is set for AHCI mode.
     
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  4. Phil

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    Post a CrystalDiskMark with 3x 100MB and we'll tell you how your SSD is running.

    When downloading CDM choose the portable edition. The installer edition has adware.
     
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    ok so ran 3 x 100mb and got these readings

    read/write
    210 /87 seq
    172 / 87 512k
    14/ 22 4k
    109/84 4kqd32


    what does this mean also how do I enable trim
     
  6. Phil

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    If you did a clean install Windows 7 alignment and TRIM should be checked.

    Did you install Intel RST?

    Your 4K performance is on the low side. This is a limitation of the chipset. You could try stamatisx tweak or JJB tweak. If you search you will find.
     
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    whats intel rst I just have the toolbox, low side hmmmm back to hdd i guess then
     
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    I don't think it's really that low for an 80GB drive.
     
  10. mdsniper7

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    installed rst now whats the diff between rst and toolbox also anyway to check if trim is enabled to see, and also never had a ssd where will I notice the performance diff
     
  11. Phil

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    Here's an Intel G2 that's not limited by the chipset. Big difference in the 4K read, even bigger for the writes.

    [​IMG]

    And one more
    [​IMG]

    Granted on a laptop it can be a little lower. But it shouldn't be 50% lower.

    TRIM: http://www.sgvulcan.com/how-to-check-if-trim-is-enabled-on-your-ssd/

    I don't think you have a need for Intel Toolbox at the moment.

    Before you try any tweaks try this: play a song with WMP (or Winamp, iTunes etc.) in the background and then start CDM 3x 100mb. See if this improves your result.
     
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    your results are 3 x 1000 u told me 3 x 100 and what u mean chipset limited


    so is it not worth keeping
     
  13. Phil

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    3x 1000 or 3x 100 shouldn't give big differences in results.

    Before you try any tweaks try this: play a song with Windows Media Player (or Winamp, iTunes etc.) in the background and then start CDM 3x 100mb.

    So CDM should be running while you hear the song. This should prevent the CPU from going in to power saving mode.

    Please post your CDM result again.
     
  14. JeanLucX

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    This is what I got from my 160GB Intel SSD M25-X. Your 4k score is not low at all consider you got a 80GB which is supposed to be slower. You can't always compare the optimized performace captured from a desktop setup to compare with a laptop setting.
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    http://www.myhpmini.com/forum/crystaldiskmark-2-2-results-intel-80gb-ssd-t1280.html
    This guy here got about 12/21 from 4k from the same SSD from a hp netbook. I think it is still a decent upgrade for your M11X because there isn't much else you can upgrade, putting more ram won't do anything and the SSD is sitll much better than your old 7200PRM hard drive.

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    This guy got two 80GB Intel SSD in raid 0 and he got this score. I don't think you can get what he got from a single SSD setup. Phil's score is not realistic if you do a little more google research. Review website is full of bs imo and you should compare score from real life users.
     
  15. Phil

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    JeanLuc, your 4K random performance is low too. It's the chipset limiting your peformance. This is a known issues that has been discussed at length on these forums.

    14MB/sec 4K random read on a Intel G2 means only one thing: performance is limited by power saving settings of the chipset.

    It is explained in depth here: http://www.storagereview.com/how_improve_low_ssd_performance_intel_series_5_chipset_environments

    PS. the 80GB does not have lower 4K random performance than the 160GB.
     
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    so 4k speed has something to do with CPU clock speed right? I certainly don't wish to increase my power consumption. I usually do max level of power saving. anyway to keep a SSD fast with super low clock speed?
     
  17. tilleroftheearth

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    Not cpu clock speed per se, but rather cpu sleep states.
     
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    so while the CPU is at sleep states, the clock speed will drop right? in order to capture the real 4k performance, I have to make sure the cpu is running at full speed?
     
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    The only times I noticed it really affects real world performance is during installing programs. MS Office installed twice as fast with the intelppm tweak.

    I'm not sure if JJB tweak affects battery life, I thought it didn't.

    There's a quick work around too, play a MP3 song while you're installing programs. That will prevent the CPU from going into sleep.

    Not really, I think playing a MP3 song will be enough.
     
  20. JeanLucX

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    does the other numbers look good other than the 4k?
     
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    Yes they're fine. Try running CDM while playing MP3 music.
     
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    Not my number. His numbers. I don't care about performance. If i care about performance, I would have bought a desktop. I only twitter and youtube, but anway thx for your help :)
     
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    Besides the 4K performance it looks pretty ok. Sequential read could be higher but it's quite common to see them lower on laptops.
     
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    [​IMG]

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    I flashed the SSD to the latest firmware, disable speedsteep, diable two cores, run everest cpu stress test on the backgorund to force the cpu to run at max level. Changed the powersaving setting to max performance, and I got this number I also did the SSD optimizaton from phil's thread.
    http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Sea...ormance&ProdId=3044&LineId=3014&FamilyId=3124
    MDS's 80GB SSD latest FW can be found from this link. You will have to burn it on a CD and flash it under DOS. make sure to back up your information first. I hope this solve your SSD issue.
    I didn't do BBL's SSD tweaking because it increased my SSD's temp a little bit and decrease my battery life.
     
  25. Phil

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    That's looking a lot better.

    PS. I don't think it's necessary to "disable speedsteep, diable two cores, run everest cpu stress test on the backgorund to force the cpu to run at max level". Simply playing a MP3 song would do the trick, I expect.
     
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    I have to make sure the CPU isn't "sleeping" thx phil agian for your help
     
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    While these disable this or that does show an improved benchmark number, I would assume that it is mainly used to see if there is something wrong with the SSD(say if it is exceptionally slower than peer indicating say alignment/driver or drive problem) but not something one wants to run day in day out as not letting the power saving to function as it is designed seems a bit odd, especially for a notebook.
     
  28. JeanLucX

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    Not exactly, we disable this and that to capture the screenshot for the maximum level of performance. It is not for everyday use for sure. It is a geekery thing.
     
  29. Phil

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    When I had the HM55 chipset I used to have a shortcut on my desktop that I could double click to disable and enable intelppm.

    By clicking it installing programs went twice as fast.
     
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    and intelppm is??? some processor power management?
     
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    Intel Processor Power Management I reckon.