who's ready for ultrawidescreen!?

Philips bringing ultrawidescreen TV, wireless Blu-ray player, apps and eventually Android TV to USA -- Engadget

JVC shows off prototype 50-inch 21:9 full HD 3D TV, says it could hit US later this year -- Engadget

21:9 aspect ratio... the new widescreen!

 

I swear to got if they put this on a laptop....

 

We know it's going to happen if it catches on. :/ In 20 years, we'll probably have 5:1 laptops.

 

This is going to sound extremely stupid.....

Wouldn't it be slightly handy to have the screen tilt vertical when you needed to work on a paper or like project? That way instead of 16:9 it would be 9:16. Just a thought.

 

The laptop wouldn't be as sexy, i think, if it becomes too fat. I like my babe slim and streamlined lol

 

I won't go beyond 16:9!

 

i actually would enjoy this as a pc screen. it's like dualscreen without the border in the middle (really close to my original 1280x1024 screen, but twice)

 

Here's the next gen laptop screens:

 

agreed i want 16:10 back what the heck..wider? really?

 

i would actually love a 21:9 TV.. as long as its not a 3D TV as i have no interest in 3D.. i don't think it would be practical for laptops though.. especially for a high res..

Panther214

 

I like this idea if it keeps the same vertical height in pixels and inches. This is a no-go for a laptop though.

 

That's so great for watching movies... I have seen the earlier model from phillips in a store a while ago, it's pretty cool imo, but as I said, just for movies, and it's so expensive.

 

4:3 = best ratio for desktops.

16:10 = best ratio for laptops.

 

Back to 16:10 I say!

 

16:10, but that's just a wish any more. They better not go any more narrow than 16:9 though, unless it's something like 3200x1200 or 8:3.

 

i personally would go to 1:1 myself. but that's just a dream (5:4 was really close, though)

 

Cut a 21:9 screen in half and you've got two screens with an aspect ratio of 1.16:1.

Though you'd still have less vertical pixels.

 

or (more practical) you could stack 2, get close to 1:1, and then gain vertical pixels.

bonus points for me for feasibility.

 

Stacking two is the same as cutting one in half. Both will give you an aspect ratio of 21:18, or 1.16:1.

The reason you don't get any more vertical pixels is because the screens start off as 21:9, which has the same vertical pixel counts as 16:9 resolutions.

 

yeah, right now i'm at 1200p. the only (singlescreen) solution to get further is a 30" screen with 2560x1600, or a 27" one with 2560x1440 (but that's 16:9 again).

fun is, all of those are 2560pixels wide. i'll get the 30" one. one day i will.

 

It's not the aspect ratio it's the pixel density of the material they cut the screens out of. You could get a 2800x1575 on a slightly smaller 30" diagonal screen at almost the same DPI as 2560x1600 if someone made the sheets with that pixel density.

 

What??

so we skipped plain old 2:1?? that was dumb....

we were so close to coming full circle in simplicity lol

 

I have had wider for years



Also this has been out for years as well



Sad this new TV has no more pixels than the average 27" monitor.

 

2560 x 1600 is the best for a computer i have a 30" dell u3011 im typing on now tons of screen area can fit 2 full page websites side by side and not have the scroll with the arrows left and right. And the pawn shop I got it from didn't know what they had and sold it to me for 220 dollars thinking it was a regular 30" tv.

Guys dont get paranoid 21:9 will never be on laptops. This aspect ratio is for watching movies shot in that ultra wide aspect ratio therefore you will only see this on large screen tv's. I don't see it selling very well either. The only thing it will be good for is watching blu ray movies in that very wide format which is the same format the big movie screens are in theaters. So these screens are only gonna sell to super rich people that have movie theaters in their house.

This ratio will suck for watching television as tv is in 4:3 or 16:9 therefore people will not choose this tv for a general family room or bedroom tv. It has a very specialized application and while it's nice to see it, i doubt it will sell in large numbers, especially if there will be a huge price premium on it over a similiar sized 16:9 set.

Multiple monitor setups drive me INSANE. those damn borders between each screen. Maybe if they made monitors without a bezel it would be cool but i cant stand the black area between each screen jus could never do it. I'm happy with 2560x1600 in 30 inches.

 

u3011 @ 200 bucks ? I am wondering their source. That is an IPS panel if I am not mistaken, I only got a 2311.

 

Pawn shop = who knows? Could be an estate sale, someone pawning off an old monitor for cash, or who knows how many other possible options.

 

Like stated already about the only things this device would be good for is movies that are shot wider than 16:9 it would be totally useless for TV and any non PC games.

That said even if I was a total movie fanatic I would still prefer a large projector screen to this any day.

Even 16:9 TV's go to waist a lot. Most content on TV is still standard 4:3 I absolutly hate when I go to somebodies house and they have there widescreen TV setup to strech 4:3 content.

Fat heads, distorted images and geometry. It drives me nuts, and a lot of times they do not even notice. I had to point out that cars wheels should be round and not ovals to make my point once.

Some people opt for overscan where it zooms the image up to fit the screen and crops the top and bottom off. This is better than distortion but still sucks.

I have not met one person other than myself that uses the proper solution and that is to have aspect scaling on so that 4:3 content is fit to the screen with the black bars on the sides.

Now with that said, know that a ton of movies are formated to 16:9 even if they were originally wider in the movies and they often even have the black bars on the top & bottom hard coded into the movie.

What that means is when you play the movie on this ultra wide TV its still going to show up small with black bars on top & bottom. The solution is going to be that overscan method I just mentioned.

Now if your going to zoom the image up to fit the TV, why not just buy a larger 16:9 TV instead and let the black bars be on top & bottom.

The result is an image just as large as this specialized TV and it will be compatible with all the 16:9 sources and movies unlike this TV.

A much wiser purchase and decision, probably cheaper as well.

A common thing to hear, but 99.9% of the people that say this never experienced it themselves. Trust me when your face on 3x24" monitors you do not notice the bezels after looking at the screen for about 2+ minutes, they just melt away. You only view the center monitor not turn your head and look at all 3, and the side monitors fill the side vision to immerse you in the game.

When it comes to multitasking my 3x24" destroy what you can do on a single 30" and were cheaper too 3 main applications can be full screened to there own monitor.

Photoshop:
1.) Source Folder
2.) Canvas
3.) Photoshop Toolbars & Online Stock Search

Video Editing:
1.) Source Folder
2.) Editor
3.) Editor Preview

Plus its nice to dedicate a monitor to Foobar or something while I browse the internet on the other monitors.

 

i don't like multiscreen setups much. it's a habit thing. and the 30" would gain me much more than multiple screens. nothing against the, though..

 

so how do you play starcraft 2 stretched on 3 screens that cant be the optimum way to play? do you see the pros in korea usin 3 monitors

 

I play starcraft on one screen and I even change my resolution from 1920x1200 to 1920x1080 since that game is designed around 16:9

But for every game that supports triple monitors its an absolutely amazing thing to behold, it often single handedly determines if I will buy or not buy a game.

As for Korea, lol

I never cared to be "pro" I just care about enjoying my games. I do play other RTS games across all 3 screens like Dawn of War 2 since it supports it. RUSE has great multi screen support too but I dont care for that game unfortunately.

 

On a laptop, a 21:9 screen would come in one of two formats .. 1. a laptop that looks like an enclosed full-sized keyboard (when closed), or 2. a laptop like the sony foldable amoled dual screen prototype.

personally, I wouldnt mind a real-sized keyboard, and I wouldnt mind something with 20" width screen in a 12" laptop form factor -- so they are both pretty cool.

If anything, the expandable types are worse because of use on airplanes and the like, where suddenly you have people encroaching on your sitting space with a laptop screen expandning into your lap, which politeness indicates you should not be looking at.

 

problem is, as always, that when doing real work of any kind (reading, writing, whatever) you need vertical space. while a laptop would be interesting as a formfactor, it would be essentially useless to do anything real on it.

having it in big sizes, though, would be interesting (as said, like two screens side by side)

 

can someone tell me why, since many people use 2 monitors side by side, especially professionals, and some even 3, companies don't produce monitors that are twice/three times the width? i'm certain there's a market there

 

because it's not that big a market? right now, 99% of all in-production screens are 16:9. that's more simple to handle. you just say 15" and get a screen.

 

As stated before, if you've use multiple monitors, they're typically cheaper than one larger monitor and the bezel is hardly noticeable after a while of use (though this might depend on the person).

 

I know there are many possibilities, this U3011 is released to the market for less than 12 months(may be even shorter) which is an IPS(not even the eIPS I have in my 2311 which sold for 300+) that is listed at 1500.

 

Cost is a factor, pixel count is another, and last is how a single monitor would maximize a program to the entire monitor, while having a indipendant monitor defines it to its own space.

There is software out there to define grids on a single monitor as zones to snap and maximize program windows too, however these are not always 100% effective and stil more trouble than simply having it work with no fuss like individual monitors.

If you full screen on a single monitor (not maximize) I do not think there is a way to prevent that from spanning the entire monitor. So say you want to watch a movie or play a game fullscreen while having other things on the other monitors its possible, but not with a single larger monitor.

 

21:9 screen factor on a laptop would be almost useless and make it a huge lump to carry.