why aren't mPCIe to mSata adapters a thing?

why aren't mPCIe to mSata adapters a thing?

 

(short version) Mostly financial reason.

 

what would 1 cost 1000.00 USD or just not enough demand?

 

Not enough demand. It's also why there are comparatively few notebooks that use mSATA

 

what do a mpcie to msata adapter suppose to do?

half size mpcie ssd?

 

cdoublejj, how do you imagine that? mPCIe is the same as mSATA in terms of size, and you need a SATA controller (or connector from somewhere) as well. What triturbo was offering requires motherboard modification and is not an option for most notebooks because there simply are no free sata pins available to solder to, it's definitely a no-go commercially. Even if it was, where do you suppose to place mSATA SSD? On top of the cooling system? =)

The only place we can certainly put an mSATA SSD (and steal power from) is ODD bay - that is alongside 2.5" SSD/HDD. Lately I believe there are only two reasonable options, really. An extra SATA connector from somewhere (mod or mpcie-to-sata), better yet harder to implement, and sata port multiplier - worse yet it could make a great commercial product, since that'd be plug'n'play. So far I'm trying to spam SYBA with petitions so that they make a version of their cheap-yet-seemingly-good mpcie-to-sata adapter with angled connectors so that it fit inside notebooks without connector resoldering, you may actually help. =)

 

allow you to use Msata SSD on mobo only equipped with mPCIe.

well... it IS pcie, and on desktop they do sell pcie sata/ide controller, perhaps if they had miniature version to put on the back of the adapter. then it could have a controller to support mSata or M.2 etc etc. i've already seen 1tb mStat or was it M.2.

 

As far as I know (researching whether mSATA SSD would fit in my late 2011 p150hm) many notebooks haven't got all the pins for mSATA hardwired, so they can hold a wifi/bt/3g card but can't use a full bandwidth SSD even though they fit in the slot

Anyway, now that mSATA SSDs are fairly widespread, there's buckey's chance of anyone investing in such an adapter, remember consumer electronics makers want you to chuck out your current lappy and buy their new one as soon as possible

And why would any sane person put a slower, more $/gb mSATA SSD in a SATA bay anyway (unless they already had the drive)

 

bennyg, storage capacity, obviously. One can put 2x1TB mSATA inside 2.5" bay using adapter if also has additional SATA connector. IIRC both SATA and mSATA SSD are currently limited to 1TB, thus it makes some sense on smaller notebooks.

 

Most laptops do not have full functional mPCIe, they are for wireless only primarily.

mSATA. Largest m.2 drives at the moment are only 512GB.

mSATA drives are more or less on par performance with their 2.5" counterparts.

It would allow for more/larger space in a current 2.5" drive space using two mSATA drives. But the problem is a single single connector would limit any RAID performance, and if the controller isn't made right TRIM would not be supported.

What we really need is to ditch m.2, ditch msata and get full on mini PCIe slots in these laptops, that way they're flexible with what you can install, like in a desktop PCIe slot. M.2 is trying to achieve that but it just isn't catching on, and still has limitations.

 

i'm been looking at the power pros you can do 3x 1TB instal SSDs and 2x 2TB HDDs and you cna swap out the ODD for another HDD so yet another 2TB HDD. IMHO i would rather not raid the internal SSDs (well maybe) and use each of them for an OS but, you can probably do that raided anyways.

however that's the most extreme storage solution.

 

This should be called msata ro mPCIe adapter then.

 

well if you want to make your mPCI compatible with mSata drives i'd call it mPCIe to mSata?

 

mPCIe is a Bus connector
while mSATA is one application for this Bus using certain connections while modems are another.

Furthermore unless a system provides the necessary lanes and of course support in the firmware/BIOS it is not there for all asking/wishing. Many have tried to use mSATA SSD and did not get it to work.

Besides performance there are large differences in power consumption for SSD, the EDO requires ~5.25W for 1TB while the intel 480 GB needs just 0.2 W and provides sustained transfer rate at small files unlike other SSD that have much higher IOPS but reduce to a few k once running small files for a few minutes.

 

On board HDD controller with firmware ...they exist, just not on mobile. HDD controller attached to bust msata to controller.