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    worth upgrading processor

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by Tinderbox (UK), Mar 28, 2007.

  1. Tinderbox (UK)

    Tinderbox (UK) BAKED BEAN KING

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    Hi.

    Would it be worth upgrading my laptop from an

    " Celeron 1.6 420 533Mhz" to an " CoreDuo 1.6 2050 533Mhz" for around £50.00

    thanks for the help.

    John.
     
  2. Zero

    Zero The Random Guy

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    For £50, it may be worth it. The T2050 is dual core, and it wil make the notebook feel alot more responsive and snappier. But, if your not doing anything processor dependant, then you probably won't notice the difference in applications outside Windows, such as games. But Windows should be faster and more responsive, and battery runtime should also increase.
     
  3. JM

    JM Mr. Misanthrope NBR Reviewer

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    Like Zero said, one plus to the upgrade would be the battery runtime increase, since the Core Duo has SpeedStep, while the Celeron does not.
     
  4. Tinderbox (UK)

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    thanks guy`s

    I am still scratching my head, will a coreduo processor fit my socket.

    Do i have an 479 socket if i have an celeron-m 420, and the celeron-m 420 has 478 pins.

    I have an picture of the back of an coreduo processor, is an celeron-m the same, can anybody tell me.

    I am really confused.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Socket_479_Pinouts.jpg

    thanks

    John.
     
  5. Zero

    Zero The Random Guy

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    Celeron M 400 series processor have the same pin layout as the Core Duo/Core 2 Duo processors. They both have 478 pins, but they use a socket called Socket 479. The wikipedia picture shows the slight difference between the older Pentium M/Celeron M 300 series processors. The also use 478 pins, and also Socket 479, but the placement of one pin is slightly different, which makes them incompatible with the Core Duo, Core 2 Duo and Celeron M 400 series.

    Make sure that the BIOS for your notebook will support the Core Duo/Core 2 Duo processors. Also, bear in mind, that an upgrade of the processor, will void the warranty.
     
  6. Tinderbox (UK)

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    I got this e-mail for HI-GRADE the manufacture of my laptop, what do you make of it.

    Hi,

    A bios update is not needed but your machine will not take the dual core cpu’s.

    Regards


    the email i sent is below.
    *******************************************************
    Hi.

    I have an celeron 1.6 420 as in the link below, it has an Mitac 8615 chassy
    my question is.

    will i need an bios upgrade to support an "Core Duo T2050 1.6GHz|2MB|Dual Core|533FSB"

    if so, where can i get it from

    thankyou.
     
  7. Zero

    Zero The Random Guy

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    Is the notebook sold with any other processor options. I would imagine that it could support Core Duo/Core 2 Duo, because it has a compatible socket, but what it really needs is a BIOS that confirms it.
     
  8. Tinderbox (UK)

    Tinderbox (UK) BAKED BEAN KING

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    I have this laptop, if you click on customize, you can select an coreduo T2050 as an option.

    what do i make of the email i got.

    thanks.

    John.

    PS. I have ordered the T2050, I got it for £44.33.
     
  9. Tinderbox (UK)

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    Hi.

    I have read that some laptops cannot be upgraded because they do not have the required voltage.

    my celeron-m and the new coreduo are both 1.3 volts, so should i be OK?.

    are their any other variables.

    thanks

    John.
     
  10. Zero

    Zero The Random Guy

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    Yes, as long as the voltages are exactly the same, then the Celeron to Core Duo upgrade, voltage wise, can be done fine. The voltagr thing mostly applies to other processors, like low voltage Core Duo. They cannot be replaced anyway, because they do not support a pin interface.
     
  11. Tinderbox (UK)

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    As i am still waiting for my coreduo and my AS5 to arrive.

    I decided to double check my processor, by removing and re-installing it.

    I wanted to double check the part no, in case it was a super low voltage type, but no is an SL8VZ and standard 1.6 420.

    I was shocked to see no thermal grease on the processor core, only a phase change pad.

    But the thing is, their was only silver foil touching the core??????????

    I replaced the pad with some standard thermal grease, as i am waiting for my AS5 and coreduo to arrive.

    regards.

    John.
     
  12. Gator

    Gator Go Gators!

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    Good luck on the attempt, but I'm not sure the BIOS will support a Core Duo.
     
  13. Tinderbox (UK)

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    on my laptops manufactures website, their is now an option to buy my model with it coreduo installed instead of an celeron-m.

    edit: I emailed the manufacture of my laptop and this was the reply.

    *************************************************************
    Hi,
    A bios update is not needed but your machine will not take the dual core cpu’s.

    Regards
    *************************************************************

    but I have the right socket and the right voltage, I hope he`s half wrong?


    so fingers crossed.

    also this website scroll down to the MiNote 8615, thats my laptop.

    regards.

    John.
     
  14. Skibums

    Skibums Notebook Evangelist

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    It looks like it should work, the only concern would be if your current bios will support the core duo. I would contact tech support (again) and see if you have the lastest bios. I just completed (almost) the same upgrade, went from a Celeron M to a Pentium M, and I needed to upgrade my bios.

    Good Luck.
     
  15. Tinderbox (UK)

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    I just received an email from Hi-Grade support, stating that the Coreduo processor will not work in my laptop because i have an Mitac 8615 chassy instead of the 8615P version which is needed to support an CoreDuo processor.

    Their is supposed to be an hardware difference, DAMM!.

    regards.

    John.
     
  16. Tinderbox (UK)

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    SUCCESS!

    My laptop took the CoreDuo process without any problems and it seems to be working fine.

    The bios detects it as an T2050 1.6 CoreDuo and so does Windows.

    I have run the Sandra Lite cpu benchmark and it`s comparing great!.

    So much for hi-grade saying it would not work with my laptop.

    well it`s back to testing.

    regards.

    John.
     
  17. Cheffy

    Cheffy Notebook Evangelist

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    Sweet - nice one. Just goes to show how this information is probably generally distributed to prevent people from upgrading, forcing them to buy new machines. That, and the techs have little actual hardware knowledge.

    In your face hi-grade fascists!!! :p

    Okay, that was silly.
     
  18. Skibums

    Skibums Notebook Evangelist

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    Congrats!!!

    They just wanted you to buy one of their new lappys, so they could suck even more hard earned cash from ya!!!

    Fight the man!!!
     
  19. naton

    naton Notebook Virtuoso

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    yes congragulation!

    I prefere to think that people working in call centres and answere our calls or relay to our emails don't know what they are talking about, and instead of checking the hardware specs, they say anything to get rid of us.
     
  20. Tinderbox (UK)

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    Thanks guys, The email below had me worried for a while, but all is fine now!



    *********************************************************
    email for Hi-Grade Support.

    I am sorry but your machine will NOT take a dual core cpu.

    There are 2 different versions of the 8615 machine, the dual core version is the 8615P.

    If yours is not this then the cpu you have order will not work.

    The cpu support is not held by a bios update, its down to the hardware motherboard to support it.
    *********************************************************